What Phil Robertson DID do

maineman said:
and you can't show ME where Jesus specified that only the ten commandments were to survive and the laws of atonement - as defined by you, obviously - were going to go. And you STILL have never shown me a red led passage where Jesus spoke against abortion.
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....you claim he abolished the Ten Commandments when he said he did not come to abolish the Ten Commandments.....doesn't that seem rather irrational to you?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
....you claim he abolished the Ten Commandments when he said he did not come to abolish the Ten Commandments.....doesn't that seem rather irrational to you?......
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I have said that you cannot show where he made this rather detailed exclusion of "the laws of atonement", except by YOUR very creative interpretation of his words.

Is the ten commandments part of the old covenant or isn't it?

and where did Jesus ever speak against abortion?
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Oh, yes, yes, yes, Jesus approves of abortion. Oh yes.

You can't show me where Jesus said drinking arsenic will kill you. Please take some.
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I never said that he endorsed it or approved of it. I said that you cannot find anywhere where he condemns it, yet you all like to TELL everyone how you are only acting on behalf of Jesus when you condemn abortion and kill abortionists and prevent women from having abortions. You claim a mandate from Christ that does not exist except where fabricated by YOU.
 
maineman said:
I have said that you cannot show where he made this rather detailed exclusion of "the laws of atonement", except by YOUR very creative interpretation of his words.

Is the ten commandments part of the old covenant or isn't it?

and where did Jesus ever speak against abortion?
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Thou shall not murder.
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Thou shall not murder.
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Again, when does life begin? You and MM have a different definition. The fact of the amtter is, your side lost this one. While there have been incresing restrictions on abortion, all of the low hanging fruit in the pro life movement has already been picked....just ask any person who is honest and working to change the laws on either side of this. As Wendy Davis has shown in Texas, women everywhere in America have had enough of the religious right bullshit.
 
maineman said:
I never said that he endorsed it or approved of it. I said that you cannot find anywhere where he condemns it, yet you all like to TELL everyone how you are only acting on behalf of Jesus when you condemn abortion and kill abortionists and prevent women from having abortions. You claim a mandate from Christ that does not exist except where fabricated by YOU.
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What is the total number of abortion doctors murdered vs children aborted since abortion became legal?
 
1966stang said:
Again, when does life begin? You and MM have a different definition. The fact of the amtter is, your side lost this one. While there have been incresing restrictions on abortion, all of the low hanging fruit in the pro life movement has already been picked....just ask any person who is honest and working to change the laws on either side of this. As Wendy Davis has shown in Texas, women everywhere in America have had enough of the religious right bullshit.
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A zygote is human. Human sperm. Human egg. Human being. You lie and your fruit hangs in the pit if hell.
 
maineman said:
I have said that you cannot show where he made this rather detailed exclusion of "the laws of atonement", except by YOUR very creative interpretation of his words.

Is the ten commandments part of the old covenant or isn't it?

and where did Jesus ever speak against abortion?
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you claim he abolished the Ten Commandments.....
 
maineman said:
and scripture:

Gen 2:7
Job 33:4
Ez 37:5,6
Ex 21:22
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and people who had nothing at all to do with religion believed that mosquitoes spontaneously spawned in rain water.....as I say, now we have biology....

by the way, you DO realize Exodus 21 says that if the unborn child dies the person who caused the death was put to death, right?......

22"If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she gives birth prematurely, yet there is no injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. 23"But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life,…
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