Rehabilitating an Unusual Libertarian Heroine

Timshel

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http://reason.com/archives/2013/12/31/rehabilitating-an-unusual-libe

I wondered how all these woman were able to live, even before the feminist movement, as freely as men did. I noticed they didn't get weighed down by pregnancy. For biological reasons women were so much more limited in what they could do. Which made me think about birth control, and when you look into that, Margaret Sanger's name kept coming up.

When you read about her, you get bombarded with so many conflicting perspectives. It's like the blind men describing the elephant. So I dug deeper and found she lived this incredibly productive, adventurous, wild life, very much the stuff of comic books! And her name and reputation are now being successfully destroyed by people on the right and left [largely over accusations of promoting birth control out of a desire for wiping out undesirable races].


Some of the accusations against her are outright lies, some distortions and taking things out of context, or just reacting to her use of the word "race." I read her book Woman and the New Race, and every time she used the word "race" she was always talking about the human race. I couldn't find instances where she made comparisons between different racial types, black vs. white or black vs. Asian or comparing different skin colors and concluding one is superior to the other. I couldn't find one instance of that, and I read a fuckload by her.


In the late 1910s, early 1920s, it was the norm to believe that white people were superior to everyone else. To academics their proof was, "Look around, we rule the world, how could anyone possibly argue whites aren't superior?" That was the position of almost everyone, and Sanger was remarkably, uniquely not racist in comparison. She was, like, the least racist person around at that time.

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She was always interested in legalizing birth control, allowing women to have access. You have to remember it was against the law to even tell someone how to keep from getting pregnant. She was a practicing nurse, and doctors and nurses did lose licenses and go to jail over this. It was a legitimate fear. She wanted to fight that, and to allow women access to birth control for health reasons-being baby-making machines can wreak havoc on the woman's body, especially if she's poor. She wanted people to be able to live their lives not as slaves to their own biology. And she fought this war and she succeeded! By 1966, when she died, we had the Griswold case and access to birth control was legal.


She was also instrumental in developing the birth control pill. She was not herself a scientist but she brought together the people who made it happen. In her work to bring about improved birth control techniques and availability, she completely changed western civilization for the better. Giving people that choice to be parents was the most libertarian thing to happen to human beings over the past 1,500 years.


The motivation for the deliberate trashing of her reputation is people are opposed to Planned Parenthood, which she founded. And they are against Planned Parenthood because they are against abortion, so they think it's their duty to trash Sanger. A gigantic irony is that throughout her entire life, she was 100 percent opposed to abortion. She thought it was immoral.
 
Birth control/abortion is working fantastically in China and India. Bring on the Godless culture of death; it is a sign of Progressive liberal progress dontchyaknow.

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Birth control/abortion is working fantastically in China and India. Bring on the Godless culture of death; it is a sign of Progressive liberal progress dontchyaknow.


Birth control is about a "culture of death?"

Why do you guys have these weird conspiracy ideas where your opponents are always involved in some villainous and inhuman plot? It's really bizarre and rather insane.
 
Birth control is about a "culture of death?"

Why do you guys have these weird conspiracy ideas where your opponents are always involved in some villainous and inhuman plot? It's really bizarre and rather insane.

Well, if you weren't such a clueless dunce, you would comprehend the "why"? But because you prefer wallowing in blissful denial and ignorance, you pretend you don't know what has been happening in those countries for decades.
 
Well, if you weren't such a clueless dunce, you would comprehend the "why"? But because you prefer wallowing in blissful denial and ignorance, you pretend you don't know what has been happening in those countries for decades.

What does it have to do with birth control here?
 
What does it have to do with birth control here?

Because you are not only incredibly dumb and uninformed, but apparently lazy as well, I am providing links so that you can attempt to be informed. Now whether or not you will become so is doubtful because you seem committed to stupidity, but let's give it a try:

One answer, some experts say, is India’s gender ratio, distorted by the practice of sex selection in favor of baby boys.

A much-cited 2002 study,“A Surplus of Men, a Deficit of Peace,” by Valerie M. Hudson and Andrea den Boer, contends that a gender imbalance in Asian countries, caused by a shortage of marriageable women, results in higher rates of crime, including rape, committed by young unmarried men.

“Internal instability is heightened in nations displaying exaggerated gender inequality, leading to an altered security calculus for the state,” the authors wrote in 2002, and reiterated in a book on the subject. Their conclusions are even more true today, Ms. Hudson said in an e-mail interview..

Certainly the situation is, if anything, worse in both India and China than it was 10 years ago,” she wrote. “Certainly violent crime against women increases as the deficit of women increases. This will constrain the life chances of females far into the future.”

Right now, the statistics are worrying. India has 37 million more men than women, as of 2011 census data, and about 17 million excess men in the age group that commits most crimes, up from 7 million in 1991.


http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/indias-man-problem/?_r=0#h[]
 
Because you are not only incredibly dumb and uninformed, but apparently lazy as well, I am providing links so that you can attempt to be informed. Now whether or not you will become so is doubtful because you seem committed to stupidity, but let's give it a try:

One answer, some experts say, is India’s gender ratio, distorted by the practice of sex selection in favor of baby boys.

A much-cited 2002 study,“A Surplus of Men, a Deficit of Peace,” by Valerie M. Hudson and Andrea den Boer, contends that a gender imbalance in Asian countries, caused by a shortage of marriageable women, results in higher rates of crime, including rape, committed by young unmarried men.

“Internal instability is heightened in nations displaying exaggerated gender inequality, leading to an altered security calculus for the state,” the authors wrote in 2002, and reiterated in a book on the subject. Their conclusions are even more true today, Ms. Hudson said in an e-mail interview..

Certainly the situation is, if anything, worse in both India and China than it was 10 years ago,” she wrote. “Certainly violent crime against women increases as the deficit of women increases. This will constrain the life chances of females far into the future.”

Right now, the statistics are worrying. India has 37 million more men than women, as of 2011 census data, and about 17 million excess men in the age group that commits most crimes, up from 7 million in 1991.


http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/indias-man-problem/?_r=0#h[]

Are you off your meds grandpa? What does this have to do with birth control here or the thread topic?
 
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What does it matter if Sanger opposed abortion if Planned Parenthood loves killing babies today? I guess she didn't care enough to leave behind a pro-life legacy...
 
what about national birtgrates vs immigrant birthrates? In some european countries the ration is 1.5 to 9. Birth control coupled with societal methods (better living standards, less children) results in countries with huge shifting demographics.
 
what about national birtgrates vs immigrant birthrates? In some european countries the ration is 1.5 to 9. Birth control coupled with societal methods (better living standards, less children) results in countries with huge shifting demographics.

So to hell with an individual's rights in regards to birth control maintaining current demographics is more important?
 
in its own nothing more thana tragidy tha culture and cultural dentity is washed away by technology and a few agendas.
 
in its own nothing more thana tragidy tha culture and cultural dentity is washed away by technology and a few agendas.

The individual right to control one's own reproduction should not take a back seat to the preservation of "culture." If the culture isn't organic then its value is questionable and really more just a tool of control.
 
The individual right to control one's own reproduction should not take a back seat to the preservation of "culture." If the culture isn't organic then its value is questionable and really more just a tool of control.

Okay, I can agree with this, it is not a government responsibility.
 
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