It's High, Long Overdue Time To Take This PC Single Mother Myth To The Wood Shed.

Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
Right, you show what you are most concerned with, i.e., protecting your party label, not from the scum that disgrace the label but from those who would criticize the scum. You do so by ignoring my points on the actual thread topic and simply engaging in personal attacks against me while giving a pass to the scum. I understand that perfectly. You are a coward.
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Again, since you are so incredibly dishonest... I don't HAVE a party, they are no more a part of my party than you are. I have no reason to defend their stupidity any more than I do to defend YOUR stupidity. You simply continue trying to lump me in with them because you are a piece of shit. You are obviously an internet warrior too... step up to the plate moron. Defend your position rather than running away. Asking me to defend or critique other people is a sign of YOUR own cowardice. You are the one running. You are the one that made a stupid assumption because you didn't like what was said.
 
Superfreak said:
Again, since you are so incredibly dishonest... I don't HAVE a party, they are no more a part of my party than you are. I have no reason to defend their stupidity any more than I do to defend YOUR stupidity. You simply continue trying to lump me in with them because you are a piece of shit. You are obviously an internet warrior too... step up to the plate moron. Defend your position rather than running away. Asking me to defend or critique other people is a sign of YOUR own cowardice. You are the one running. You are the one that made a stupid assumption because you didn't like what was said.
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You are lumped in with them because you refuse to challenge them and only attack me or Democrats.

I am defending my position which you have yet to even address. All you have done is level personal attacks against me for criticizing your klan buddies.
 
philly rabbit said:
Then Vice President Dan Quayle May 19th, 1992.



So is it evident that Quayle's words back then were absolutely accurate as to the main contributor to the violent LA riots back then being the sons of single mothers as the culprits? So how much longer will the great liberal myth glorifying single parenthood hold out when all the statistics and all the evidence proves that single mothers had become America's crime mommas producing fatherless kids who are involved in 70% of the country's crime, have the highest suicide rate among young people, have the highest rate of drug abuse and early death on account of it and who are costing tax payers billions of dollars as the government assumes the role of surrogate father for these social misfits who join gangs and end up either dead at an early age or in prison for decades without proper man-woman two parenting raising in the home.

This is a topic that the liberal establishment has deemed taboo to even discuss and it is protected from verbal scrutiny by political correctness through the media.
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So can you prove that "liberals" are taking issue with this? I'm curious. I'm a progressive liberal and I've never excused none of this nonsense and in fact, I believe mothers ought to be accountable for nonsensical behavior. But please prove to me with evidence that this is a liberal agenda.
 
What is it about personal responsibility lefttards find so repugnant? Who forces women to have multiple babies from several daddies?
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
Discuss the problem. Why is crime plummeting while single motherhood explodes? Your narrative on crime is nothing but bullshit.
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You have PC blinders on and refuse to admit that crime and social l dysfunction in society is most prevalent by individuals who come out of homes minus a human father. So why are you trying to defend the single mother PC myth otherwise with bogus crime statistics supposedly dropping? I already told this forum that gang members who are the crime lords and crime soldiers of America are fatherless in the home and everybody knows it. I already stated that single parent homes are costing tax payers billions of dollars because the government has assumed the role of surrogate father in these single mother residences. And all you can do in response is to keep reverting back to statistics that fluctuate because PC society has made crime itself politically correct and arrests for former crimes committed by criminals also politically incorrect.

You don't have a leg to stand on with your stupid, childish name-calling strategy of yours because of your frustration and anger over someone like myself bringing this major societal problem up for discussion. You don't have one legitimate defense can you reasonably and thoughtfully counter with other than the impression that single parent societal homes are beneficial because of your claims of regressing crime statistics. You are nothing but a drone for liberal PC society hopelessly trying to enforce another one it's laws of censorship designed to keep parenting inclusive with central governmental planning.
 
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Sun Devil said:
So can you prove that "liberals" are taking issue with this? I'm curious. I'm a progressive liberal and I've never excused none of this nonsense and in fact, I believe mothers ought to be accountable for nonsensical behavior. But please prove to me with evidence that this is a liberal agenda.
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I might as well have shown you a film clip about fishing in North Carolina if you're going to sit there and try to claim that the PC establishment doesn't want the truth about this problem brought up.
 
they just hate women and want the one parent who was willing to stay and try to raise the child to be punished.

they hate EVERYONE
 
philly rabbit said:
You have PC blinders on and refuse to admit that crime and social l dysfunction in society is most prevalent by individuals who come out of homes minus a human father. So why are you trying to defend the single mother PC myth otherwise with bogus crime statistics supposedly dropping? I already told this forum that gang members who are the crime lords and crime soldiers of America are fatherless in the home and everybody knows it. I already stated that single parent homes are costing tax payers billions of dollars because the government has assumed the role of surrogate father in these single mother residences. And all you can do in response is to keep reverting back to statistics that fluctuate because PC society has made crime itself politically correct and arrests for former crimes committed by criminals also politically incorrect.

You don't have a leg to stand on with your stupid, childish name-calling strategy of yours because of your frustration and anger over someone like myself bringing this major societal problem up for discussion. You don't have one legitimate defense can you reasonably and thoughtfully counter with other than the impression that single parent societal homes are beneficial because of your claims of regressing crime statistics. You are nothing but a drone for liberal PC society hopelessly trying to enforce another one it's laws of censorship designed to keep parenting inclusive with central governmental planning.
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So you are arguing that crime has not actually declined? The FBI was lying throughout 3 administrations, including Bush's? So why should we trust the stats that show children of single mothers commit more crimes?

What violent crime or property crime has been made "politically correct?"
 
they don't accept facts that don't back their political positions.


Its why the only choice as a society we have left to reign in their stupidity is to SHAME them publically for refusing to deal in reality.


Its why I call them the names I call them
 
cawacko said:
I'll list the responses he got on Facebook for his post: I'm not listing their names but these responses are all from black men and black women.

Amen

Interesting thought.

She should have appreciated it it wasnt a bad thing

And boys need positive role models (same person made above comment)

Thats why u there coach/dad/friend...teach them what being a player is all about, it's really a coaches duty to help there transformation into becoming a man...discerning whats wrong when and how its brought about is evident...good job coach!!! & God bless

The player got a lot better with time and my mother jumped out the stands and broke it down to the mother. (this comment by my friend who made the OP)

She needs to take a BACKSEAT!! And be Thankful for a STRONG BLACK ROLE MODEL for these BOYS... And allow tht BLESSING!! IF sHe caNt appreciate you... She needs to Sign her SON up for BALLET CLASSES !!!!

please circulate & support the 1st hackathon for black men to address black male achievement here in Oakland. http://bmaoakland.startupweekend.org.

Men sharpen men like steel sharpen steel! Our boys need you!

Keep your voice loud and strong and continue to make your message clear, Shawn! I am so very proud of you!

Couldn't agree more! Great words

Before every season at the parent meeting we ask parents particularly mothers to turn the boys over to us as coaches and let us help transform them from boys into more mature young men this helps in those cases.

true

I been coaching at our alma mater since 1994. So trust me whn i tell u the mothers always gonna advocate and pamper the young men to the point of ruin. Keep at it the way u doin it. They will most certainly respond.
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Cawacko just wondering. What does Shawn say about the men who fathered all these children and left them to be raised without a strong male presence? Seems to me there's a whole lot more going on here: poverty, education, contraception, culture etc. You know that as a woman my hackles are always going to rise when the entire burden of single parenthood is dumped on the woman.

Philly's OP doesn't reflect reality. Fictional "Murphy" was rich and able to provide for a child. Shawn's boys were born into poverty. I'm not arguing against kids having two parents raising them so in that sense I agree with Philly. I'm just really sick and tired of the single moms getting all the hate while the dads are apparently running wild squirting their seed everywhere and not having to answer for it.
 
cawacko said:
I figured it goes without saying but maybe I should have been more clear, yes an abusive father is a bad thing. I don't know your background but I believe you spent time in the Bay Area and possibly even Oakland and there is no way you can have lived in Oakland and not seen communities where almost no fathers or male role models are present and the negative impact it has. There's nothing bullshit about it. (And to be clear it's not a racial thing, boys of all backgrounds need a father figure in their life.)
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Where are the fathers? Seems like they made the choice to stay out of their kids' lives.
 
christiefan915 said:
Cawacko just wondering. What does Shawn say about the men who fathered all these children and left them to be raised without a strong male presence? Seems to me there's a whole lot more going on here: poverty, education, contraception, culture etc. You know that as a woman my hackles are always going to rise when the entire burden of single parenthood is dumped on the woman.

Philly's OP doesn't reflect reality. Fictional "Murphy" was rich and able to provide for a child. Shawn's boys were born into poverty. I'm not arguing against kids having two parents raising them so in that sense I agree with Philly. I'm just really sick and tired of the single moms getting all the hate while the dads are apparently running wild squirting their seed everywhere and not having to answer for it.
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He's written before that men need to step up and take responsibility for their children. And he has argued that black men who become successful need to stay in the communities to be role models and positive examples to others. He's not blaming women. His call is to get (black) men to get more involved in the lives of their children and children in the community.

I was posted this because I think all children need a father figure in their life. That's not anti-woman to say that. That's not putting down a woman who raises a child by herself.

I do not disagree with the notion that it is much more acceptable today in society for people to have children out of wedlock. From a freedom perspective that would be a good thing. From a child's perspective and a societal perspective I'd argue its not.
 
cawacko said:
He's written before that men need to step up and take responsibility for their children. And he has argued that black men who become successful need to stay in the communities to be role models and positive examples to others. He's not blaming women. His call is to get (black) men to get more involved in the lives of their children and children in the community.

I was posted this because I think all children need a father figure in their life. That's not anti-woman to say that. That's not putting down a woman who raises a child by herself.

I do not disagree with the notion that it is much more acceptable today in society for people to have children out of wedlock. From a freedom perspective that would be a good thing. From a child's perspective and a societal perspective I'd argue its not.
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I know you're not anti-woman but I think the OP is. And I think it would be better to focus on addressing societal problems as a whole rather than blame its ills on single moms, as Quayle seemed to do.
 
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