A&E suspended Phil Robertson

christiefan915 said:
I've never said anything even close to what the duck guy said because who am I to judge?

If this guy really heeded the words of Jesus he would show more tolerance and mercy to people who don't share his beliefs. He said “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

I think it's incredibly arrogant for anyone to pronounce who will or won't inherit the kingdom. If duck guy believes that Jesus is omniscient, omnipotent and perfect, then he should know that Jesus isn't going to judge people the way we judge each other.
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Its still freedom of speech....no matter how 'ignorant', politically incorrect or whatever you find it.....

aren't you glad your freedom of speech is intact ? Shouldn't everybody's ?
 
leaningright said:
Here's the thing...they (the Robertsons) claim to be followers of the Bible and are members of a fundamentalist religion. What did A&E expect he would say?
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So they interperate the Bible differently than you.....are you any more 'right' than anyone else ?
 
NOVA said:
Its still freedom of speech....no matter how 'ignorant', politically incorrect or whatever you find it.....

aren't you glad your freedom of speech is intact ? Shouldn't everybody's ?
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How can you say that knowing that Fred Phelps and his followers protest military funerals?
 
christiefan915 said:
I've never said anything even close to what the duck guy said because who am I to judge?

If this guy really heeded the words of Jesus he would show more tolerance and mercy to people who don't share his beliefs. He said “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

I think it's incredibly arrogant for anyone to pronounce who will or won't inherit the kingdom. If duck guy believes that Jesus is omniscient, omnipotent and perfect, then he should know that Jesus isn't going to judge people the way we judge each other.
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The thing is he's not the first one to say it.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
 
NOVA said:
Its still freedom of speech....no matter how 'ignorant', politically incorrect or whatever you find it.....

aren't you glad your freedom of speech is intact ? Shouldn't everybody's ?
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That's not the argument I'm making.

I'm actually happy when people like this show what's inside themselves, makes it a lot easier for me to dismiss them.
 
christiefan915 said:
But he said "START with homosexual behaviour and just morph out from there."
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why do you refuse to use the whole sentence....."Sin becomes fine," he later added. “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there."

it isn't homosexual behavior that morphs, its the acceptance of sin that morphs......
 
Jarod said:
You don't have to twist yourself into knots. What he said was bigoted toward Gays. If he said, "I like pussy better than man ass." that would have not been bigoted. What he said was judging other people. Its not for me is one thing, its bad is another.
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Nothing bigoted about saying you think something is immoral

You are the one being bigoted. No queer was harmed

Unless you think his words led to queer boy Howey being banned AGAIN.?
 
kiki said:
How can you say that knowing that Fred Phelps and his followers protest military funerals?
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Even Phelps has freedom of speech....and can say or write whatever the hell he wants....that has nothing to do with with disturbing the peace and harassing

people at private functions or at their homes as this asshole does.

Our Constitution is inclusive...simply espousing what you believe in an interview is certainly your right.
 
leaningright said:
The thing is he's not the first one to say it.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
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Do you know the author of 1 Corinthians and the date he wrote it? He persecuted Jewish Christians.
Do you think the adulterers and murderers are in heaven?
 
christiefan915 said:
This is from the GQ interview. His view is that America is going to hell in a hand basket because Christian principles are being diluted.

"...in Robertson’s worldview, America was a country founded upon Christian values (Thou shalt not kill, etc.), and he believes that the gradual removal of Christian symbolism from public spaces has diluted those founding principles. (He and Si take turns going on about why the Ten Commandments ought to be displayed outside courthouses.) He sees the popularity of Duck Dynasty as a small corrective to all that we have lost.
“Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong,” he says. “Sin becomes fine.”

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And I agree with him. Sin has become "fine" as in OK. It's ok with almost everyone and society is pressuring those who it's still not fine with for it to be fine. It can be seen by contrasting this situation with that of the recent Miley Cyrus situation. Vulgar, immoral, ... But that's ok. It's fine.
 
leaningright said:
The thing is he's not the first one to say it.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
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I understand that and also understand that the people making these comments (including Paul) are fallible, judgmental humans and not the perfect God.
 
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