Wind energy becoming cheaper than natural gas

Truth Detector said:
This blog is patently biased and this claim is patently false. Let's be clear here, wind energy will never, ever be efficient compared to other technologies, it is extremely expensive, harms wildlife and unsightly.

Although it gives brain dead liberals a tingly feeling down their legs, it is a woefully unsightly inneficient firm of energy.
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fuck you very much


you gave nothing but blather to back your shit buttslice
 
A study in the Netherlands found that turning back-up gas power stations on and off to cover spells when there is little wind actually produces more carbon than a steady supply of energy from an efficient modern gas station. The research is cited in a new report by the Civitas think tank which warns that Britain is in danger of producing more carbon dioxide (CO2) than necessary if the grid relies too much on wind.

Wind turbines only produce energy around 30 per cent of the time. When the wind is not blowing - or even blowing too fast as in the recent storms - other sources of electricity have to be used, mostly gas and coal. However it takes a surge of electricity to power up the fossil fuel stations every time they are needed, meaning more carbon emissions are released. “You keep having to switch these gas fired power stations on and off, whereas if you just have highly efficient modern gas turbines and let it run all the time, it will use less gas,” said Ruth Lea, an economic adviser to Arbuthnot Banking Group and the author of the Civitas report. “If you use less gas in a highly efficient gas turbine you use less carbon dioxide than having wind backed up by gas.”

The Dutch report, published at the end of last year by retired physicist Dr C le Pair, also points to the carbon emissions produced in building wind farms, that last a relatively short period of time compared to conventional power stations. It concludes: “The wind projects do not fulfill 'sustainable' objectives. They cost more fuel than they save and they cause no CO2 saving, in the contrary they increase our environmental 'foot print'.” The UK Government want to build up to 32,000 wind turbines over the next 20 years, of which at least 6,000 could be onshore.

The report also found that wind is “horrendously expensive”, especially offshore wind, because of the cost of taking the turbines out to sea and installing the structures. The fact that the power source always has to be backed up by fossil fuel stations also increases the cost. Civitas cite official Government figures that warn green policies will add up to £400 to electricity bills over the next two decades. The report concludes: “The most cost-effective technologies are nuclear and gas-fired. Onshore, and especially offshore, wind technologies are inordinately expensive.”
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www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/9000760/Wind-power-is-expensive-and-ineffective-at-cutting-CO2-say-Civitas.html
 
evince said:
http://grist.org/news/wind-energy-becoming-cheaper-than-natural-gas/
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read the Op asshole



the blustery Midwest, wind energy is now coming in even cheaper than natural gas. From Greentech Media:


“In the Midwest, we’re now seeing power agreements being signed with wind farms at as low as $25 per megawatt-hour,” said Stephen Byrd, Morgan Stanley’s Head of North American Equity Research for Power & Utilities and Clean Energy, at the Columbia Energy Symposium in late November. “Compare that to the variable cost of a gas plant at $30 per megawatt-hour. …”

Byrd acknowledged that wind does receive a subsidy in the form of a production tax credit for ten years at $22 per megawatt-hour after tax. “But even without that subsidy, some of these wind projects have a lower all-in cost than gas,” Byrd said
 
why do you deny these NEW facts and post OLD info to refute NEW facts?


why?

why do you insist on seeing this wind energy fail?


what do you have to gain by wind energy failing?


You cant answer can you?
 
yet again you people can not answer a direct question.



what do you gain if wind energy doesn't produce?


why are you pretending these FACTS are not true?
 
evince said:
Now why do you want wind power to fail?

fucking why ?
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It's not about anyone wanting it to fail you raving unintelligent lunatic; it fails of its own inability to solve the energy problem and does incredible damage to the environment with massive unsightly towers.

It's ugly and it's inneficient. But you're stuck on stupid and lunatic; how can you possibly comprehend the obvious?
 
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