'Nuclear' Option triggered today in Senate

In the long term, the rule change represents a substantial power shift in a chamber that for more than two centuries has prided itself on affording more rights to the minority party than any other legislative body in the world.
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For the majority of it's history, the senate operated largely on majority rule, and filibusters were a relatively rarely used tactic. Things have gradually degraded over the past few decades to the point where everything bill is filibustered, and the effective threshold of passing legislation was increased to 60%. Abolishing the filibuster will bring the senate back closer to it's traditional manner of operating.
 
the republican party abused this rule so badly it is now rendered useless in running this country.



It is completely the republican partys fault
 
Panda Hugger said:
For the majority of it's history, the senate operated largely on majority rule, and filibusters were a relatively rarely used tactic. Things have gradually degraded over the past few decades to the point where everything bill is filibustered, and the effective threshold of passing legislation was increased to 60%. Abolishing the filibuster will bring the senate back closer to it's traditional manner of operating.
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This is clear, but if it was action taken by Democrats people like Damocles hate it.
 
FNX-45 Tactical said:
Motts right, fuck minorities. What have the minority groups of any kind ever done for the majority? If they don't like a decision, they can just shut up and take it. That's the exact same line our great FDR took, and look exactly what it got us;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

If FDR had our Congress, he might not have been able to keep us safe from those dangerous minorities.
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how about the japanese regiment sent to europe during wwii

how about albert einstein

the list is rather long of the accomplishments of members of minority groups

then there is the fact that all immigrants/minority groups, including 'white' have had outstanding members of our society and have made outstanding contributions to our nation.

at one time or another we were all minorities.
 
Jarod said:
Oh, I think the Republicans will change it back, they are so against it and think its bad for the country and all.
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it only applies when the same party controls the whitehouse an the senate

however, it is a two edged sword
 
Don Quixote said:
how about the japanese regiment sent to europe during wwii

how about albert einstein

the list is rather long of the accomplishments of members of minority groups

then there is the fact that all immigrants/minority groups, including 'white' have had outstanding members of our society and have made outstanding contributions to our nation.

at one time or another we were all minorities.
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Woosh.
 
Big Money said:
Like the fact that BJ Bill was impeached in the House for perjury was false?
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President Clinton was acquitted of perjury. No criminal charges were ever filed bit its akin to the way George Zimmerman was acquitted.
 
Jarod said:
False.
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True. Only a deluded fool thinks that this will be confined to just a few judicial nominees.

Remember it is ALWAYS the democrat party that starts this bullshit then they caterwaul when the GOP turns the tables on them. There is no going back. The filibuster is gone. I personally am glad because now it will take only 51 votes in the Senate to repeal Obummercare.
 
Damocles said:
An impeachment is an equivalent to filing charges.
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Exactly, and in that same way an acquittal is akin to being found not guilty! But a Congressional impeachment or trial is not the same thing as being charged with a crime. If the president is removed, then he could be charged with a crime. It is unconstitutional to charge a sitting president in criminal court, he must first be removed.
 
I Love America said:
True. Only a deluded fool thinks that this will be confined to just a few judicial nominees.

Remember it is ALWAYS the democrat party that starts this bullshit then they caterwaul when the GOP turns the tables on them. There is no going back. The filibuster is gone. I personally am glad because now it will take only 51 votes in the Senate to repeal Obummercare.
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Well the rule change only applies to judicial nominees.
 
Big Money said:
He was impeached in the House for perjury, Counselor.
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Yes and then acquitted of the charge of perjury. But these were not criminal charges, a sitting president cannot be charged in criminal court, he/she must first be removed.
 
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