More Than 3,000 U.S. Prisoners Locked Up for Life Without Parole for..............???

Maybe the reason why is we have too many assholes ignoring the laws....

I am curious though, how many chances should a criminal get .....6, 20, 50, 500 ?

Where do you draw a line and say, 'thats enough'.....

You get 1 forced blow job or rape for free, or 3 before you say enough.

do you get to sell the first 100 lbs of coke for free but go to the can when you hit 101....

Do you wait for the 5th murder before you throw the key away....or the 50th shoplifting charge or what.

Do you actually think a dude that gets convicted for the 4th time only committed 4 crimes in his life....
leave it upto the judge; that's their job, to impose sentence.

A judge can look at all the factors - you do 4 ( or 3,or 2) serious crimes, you prolly are going to get time to serve.

But not always, or maybe less. The judge uses a report from the probation office, and does have sentencing guidelines. The states atty, and defense council make their case.

In the end it's upto the judge to decide for each person. No cookie cutter justice
 
leave it upto the judge; that's their job, to impose sentence.

A judge can look at all the factors - you do 4 ( or 3,or 2) serious crimes, you prolly are going to get time to serve.

But not always, or maybe less. The judge uses a report from the probation office, and does have sentencing guidelines. The states atty, and defense council make their case.

In the end it's upto the judge to decide for each person. No cookie cutter justice

You know, I agree. I am basically on board with 3 strikes laws but totally disagree with 'zero tolerance' policies and your post outlines many of my reasons.
 
THere are state standards for determining felonies. In the OP, that has changed over time.

Are gen X kids committing felonies in states with 3 strikes laws? (or however many).

I like the idea of them using the guideline of 'violent' felony but really....how many felonies do people 'accidentally' commit?

Quite a few. Every day it's likely you commit a felony of some kind without being aware of it.
 
probably because it isn't true......he's obviously done something else than steal a coat because stealing a coat isn't four offenses, its one......

Even the warden is against the harshness of these sentences, so screw you.

Louisiana, where both Washington and Jackson are held, is one of nine states where prisoners are serving life without parole sentences for non-violent offences (other states with high numbers are Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Oklahoma and South Carolina). An overwhelming proportion of those sentences – as many as 98% in Louisiana – were mandatory: in other words judges had no discretion but to impose the swingeing penalties.

The warden of Angola prison, Burl Cain, has spoken out in forthright terms against a system that mandates punishment without any chance of rehabilitation. He told the ACLU: “It's ridiculous, because the name of our business is 'corrections' – to correct deviant behaviour. If I'm a successful warden and I do my job and we correct the deviant behaviour, then we should have a parole hearing. I need to keep predators in these big old prisons, not dying old men.”
The toll is not confined to the state level: most of those non-violent inmates held on life without parole sentences were given their punishments by the federal government. More than 2,000 of the 3,281 individuals tracked down on these sentences by the ACLU are being held in the federal system. Overall, the ACLU has calculated that taxpayers pay an additional $1.8bn to keep the prisoners locked up for the rest of their lives.
 
Maybe the reason why is we have too many assholes ignoring the laws....

I am curious though, how many chances should a criminal get .....6, 20, 50, 500 ?

Where do you draw a line and say, 'thats enough'.....

You get 1 forced blow job or rape for free, or 3 before you say enough.

do you get to sell the first 100 lbs of coke for free but go to the can when you hit 101....

Do you wait for the 5th murder before you throw the key away....or the 50th shoplifting charge or what.

Do you actually think a dude that gets convicted for the 4th time only committed 4 crimes in his life....

Don't be so bloody ridiculous, life without parole should only be for the most heinous of crimes like serial killing.

Until the early 1970s, life without parole sentences were virtually unknown. But they exploded as part of what the ACLU calls America's “late-twentieth-century obsession with mass incarceration and extreme, inhumane penalties.”

The report's author Jennifer Turner states that today, the US is “virtually alone in its willingness to sentence non-violent offenders to die behind bars.” Life without parole for non-violent sentences has been ruled a violation of human rights by the European Court of Human Rights. The UK is one of only two countries in Europe that still metes out the penalty at all, and even then only in 49 cases of murder.
Even within America's starkly racially-charged penal system, the disparities in non-violent life without parole are stunning. About 65% of the prisoners identified nationwide by the ACLU are African American. In Louisiana, that proportion rises to 91%, including Jackson and Washington who are both black.
The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, with 2.3 million people now in custody, with the war on drugs acting as the overriding push-factor. Of the prisoners serving life without parole for non-violent offences nationwide, the ACLU estimates that almost 80% were for drug-related crimes.
Again, the offences involved can be startlingly petty. Drug cases itemised in the report include a man sentenced to die in prison for having been found in possession of a crack pipe; an offender with a bottle cap that contained a trace of heroin that was too small to measure; a prisoner arrested with a trace amount of cocaine in their pocket too tiny to see with the naked eye; a man who acted as a go-between in a sale to an undercover police officer of marijuana – street value $10.
Drugs are present in the background of Timothy Jackson's case too. He was high when he went to the Maison Blanche store, and he says that as a result he shoplifted “without thinking”. Paradoxically, like many of the other prisoners on similar penalties, the first time he was offered drug treatment was after he had already been condemned to spend the rest of his life in jail.
The theft of the $159 jacket, taken in isolation, carries today a six-month jail term. It was combined at Jackson's sentencing hearing with his previous convictions – all for non-violent crimes including a robbery in which he took $216 – that brought him under Louisiana's brutal “four-strikes” law by which it became mandatory for him to be locked up and the key thrown away.
 
Even the warden is against the harshness of these sentences, so screw you.

/shrugs......that doesn't change the fact that he wasn't put in prison for life because he stole a coat.....he's in prison for life for being an habitual criminal, which is a completely different story.......
 
/shrugs......that doesn't change the fact that he wasn't put in prison for life because he stole a coat.....he's in prison for life for being an habitual criminal, which is a completely different story.......

So you would e happy if one of your family was sent away for life without parole for shoplifting and taking drugs? How fucked up is that?
 
So you would e happy if one of your family was sent away for life without parole for shoplifting and taking drugs? How fucked up is that?

if one of my family had been convicted of four felonies?........I wouldn't be happy at all......but at least I would be smart enough to realize who's really fucked up................
 
Since when is shoplifting a $159 jacket a felony?

It isnt you dimwit; but being a habitual criminal with more than three strikes is.

You have to be a leftist moron to believe the crap coming from the ACLU who seeks to release predators onto law abiding citizens while trying to disarm those same citizens.

But Liberals are incredibly stupid and want to free criminals to habitually prey on the defenseless.
 
So you would e happy if one of your family was sent away for life without parole for shoplifting and taking drugs? How fucked up is that?

Are you really THAT stupid? He didn't get put away for shoplifting or drugs; he got put away for life because he was a HABITUAL criminal!!

Here's something else dimwitted leftists don't comprehend; if these predators are caught for times, they have probably gotten away with crimes forty times.

Do you idiots on the left ever enrage your teeny tiny brains? Do you really think that criminal predators get caught EVERY time they commit a crime?

Unbelievable; you loony lefties and select libertarians are incredibly dense and naive.
 
treatment is way cheaper than keeping people in prison.

then when you successfully treat people they can get jobs and pay taxes.

what you idiot right wingers are suggesting is putting in prison people who will then turn into more hardened criminals which we will PAY to house for life.


when will you stop being the stupid party?
 
Its fucking stupid to make life long criminals out of people you could have taught to work and pay taxes instead.

Jesus your a brain dead evil fuck
 
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