David Paterson Does the Right Thing and Drops the Rock

OBAMA IMPRISONS 80% MORE MEDICAL MARIJUANA GROWERS THAN BUSH
Medical marijuana users sent to prison under federal law, while complying with state law
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/6883-obama-imprisons-80-more-medical-marijuana-growers-than-bush

Obama and the War on Drugs: Hypocrisy in Action
http://jonathanturley.org/2013/06/29/obama-and-the-war-on-drugs-hypocrisy-in-action-2/

Obama Throwing Medical Cannabis Patients Into Prison At An Alarming Rate
http://www.theweedblog.com/obama-throwing-medical-cannabis-patients-into-prison-at-an-alarming-rate/

Obama betrays the left; cheers continued expansion of drug war, criminalization of plant-based medicine
http://www.naturalnews.com/035584_Obama_War_on_Drugs_prohibition.html##ixzz2gTZEaJ7b

D.E.A. Squads Extend Reach of Drug War
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/w...-extend-reach-of-drug-war.html?pagewanted=all

Obama Hates Medical Marijuana And He Doesn't Care What The States Think
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/obama-pot-_n_3479283.html

Obama and His Pot-Smoking ‘Choom Gang’
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/obama-and-his-pot-smoking-choom-gang/

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pretty damning list. Obama flies under the radar on a lot of this.
 
Good, more progress. And the administration just said they'd leave WA and CO alone to work out their new pot laws.

Sounds like progress to me. I knew Obama wouldnt do anything in his first term, too controversial with the dinosaurs and people that think the govt belongs even further in our private lives. (So much for claims of wanting 'smaller govt!)

And no, I dont smoke pot.
 
Good, more progress. And the administration just said they'd leave WA and CO alone to work out their new pot laws.

Sounds like progress to me. I knew Obama wouldnt do anything in his first term, too controversial with the dinosaurs and people that think the govt belongs even further in our private lives. (So much for claims of wanting 'smaller govt!)

And no, I dont smoke pot.

Lets hope they actually mean it this time. Because up till now, they have not.
 
beware of smoke and mirrors

The DOJ signaled that it will allow Colorado and Washington to proceed with legalizing and regulating the sale and recreational consumption of marijuana so long as they can prevent:
■Cannabis from being sold to minors
■Pot revenue from going to criminal enterprises
■Legally purchased marijuana from being diverted to states where it's illegal
■State-authorized pot businesses from being used as legal cover for drug trafficking
■Stoned driving
■The cultivation of marijuana on public lands
■Marijuana possession on federal property
■Violence related to drug cultivation


"Those are all reasons we've cited for why we should tax and regulate marijuana," the MPP's Riffle points out.

I certainly hope that it applies to us and I certainly think it should, but we will need to wait and see," says Steve D'Angelo, founder of Harborside Health Center, a large and respected pot dispensary in Oakland that has been the target of federal raids.

Last year, the DOJ filed a civil suit against Harborside's landlords, seeking to seize buildings it rents in Oakland and San Jose. The case prompted the City of Oakland to countersue the DOJ on Harborside's behalf; the matter is now before the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

But other pro-marijuana activists are concerned that the memo gives federal prosecutors too much leeway. In particular, it's not clear whether the feds will stop prosecuting pot dispensaries in California. Unlike Colorado and Washington, California provides little state-level oversight of its medical pot industry, relying instead on a patchwork of local laws.

It's also not clear how the memo will influence other federal agencies that have targeted California dispensaries. The Internal Revenue Service has prosecuted the dispensaries under a clause of the tax code that prevents drug traffickers from deducting business expenses such as rent and payroll. The Treasury Department has told credit card processors they can't work with the pot shops. And the Drug Enforcement Administration recently told armored-car companies that they can't carry cash from medical marijuana sales.

"While we're hopeful that the Justice Department will adhere to these policies" in the memo, Steph Sherer, the executive director of a group called Americans for Safe Access, said in a press release, "our experience with the Obama administration so far has been lots of double-talk."

Either way, Riffle believes the DOJ memo will put pressure on lawmakers to amend our national drug policy. "Rather than have the administration ignore a broken law," he says, "it is time for Congress to go in and fix it."
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/08/justice-department-memo-obama-medical-marijuana-dispensaries
 
The DOJ signaled that it will allow Colorado and Washington to proceed with legalizing and regulating the sale and recreational consumption of marijuana so long as they can prevent:
■Cannabis from being sold to minors
■Pot revenue from going to criminal enterprises
■Legally purchased marijuana from being diverted to states where it's illegal
■State-authorized pot businesses from being used as legal cover for drug trafficking
■Stoned driving
■The cultivation of marijuana on public lands
■Marijuana possession on federal property
■Violence related to drug cultivation
is a wide net to cast, to allow fed's to intrude on the states. The states are still subservient to Marijuana being a Shechule 1 drug (FDA).

The White House website still call marijiana "addictive, and unsafe" (ONCD) - and canot be medicinal in smoked form.

all of which leaves the varous agencies wide room to bust into the states attmpts to regulate.

What the US District Atty Hagg did to Harborside is arbitrary and capricios, going after Harborside becuase it's Big.
 
U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag filed a federal court complaint Sunday alleging that the $22 million-a-year medical pot dispensary violates U.S. law prohibiting marijuana distribution. A court notice was posted on Harborside's door Wednesday announcing asset forfeiture proceedings.

A similar notice was sent to Harborside's smaller sister dispensary in San Jose.

The complaint is the latest shot in a campaign Haag and other U.S. attorneys have waged since last fall against medical marijuana operations in California. She says any activity that goes beyond small medical marijuana exchanges violates the spirit of the state law that voters passed in 1996 authorizing pot use for medicinal purposes.

Harborside, Haag said in a statement Wednesday, is among "superstores" that violate the spirit of the law.

"The larger the operation, the greater the likelihood that there will be abuse of the state's medical marijuana law, and marijuana in the hands of individuals who do not have a demonstrated medical need," Haag said.

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Oakland-s-Harborside-pot-club-fights-feds-3702632.php
 
is a wide net to cast, to allow fed's to intrude on the states. The states are still subservient to Marijuana being a Shechule 1 drug (FDA).

The White House website still call marijiana "addictive, and unsafe" (ONCD) - and canot be medicinal in smoked form.

all of which leaves the varous agencies wide room to bust into the states attmpts to regulate.

What the US District Atty Hagg did to Harborside is arbitrary and capricios, going after Harborside becuase it's Big.

I dont understand your point.

States have legalized it. The feds said they'd go along with it (basically).

So let's keep refining this and making it work so the feds and other states have examples to go on.

We've got an opening...why not take advantage?
 
I dont understand your point.

States have legalized it. The feds said they'd go along with it (basically).

So let's keep refining this and making it work so the feds and other states have examples to go on.

We've got an opening...why not take advantage?
the (basically) is the problem, if you lok at the list of exeptions there are alot of scenarios.

And this is juts for the "legalization"(s.i.c) states - what about the medical marijuaan states -the vast amount?

Look at the post from Mother Jones. One needs to understand the Ogden Memo being supplanted by the Colle Memo.

and then we have the IRS/Treasury Dept, not just DoJ targeting clinics. auy I know runs one in CA -he cannot use banks, he lists his occupaion as drug trafficker.
https://www.drugfree.org/join-together/drugs/medical-marijuana-group

oit is very complicated, I went thru this page after page a yuear or so ago, if I could find the link

Look at US Atty Haag's statement that big clinics are inherently more subject to diversion - despite NO evidence ,


despite the fact Harborside is one of the most well run regulated clinics in the medical states.

In theory I agree with you, in practice, i don't see alot of "change" just promises there will be.

Not saying this has to be this way, but not saying this is "progressive" at all. Don't know yet, but serious red flags
 
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the (basically) is the problem, if you lok at the list of exeptions there are alot of scenarios.

And this is juts for the "legalization"(s.i.c) states - what about the medical marijuaan states -the vast amount?

Look at the post from Mother Jones. One needs to understand the Ogden Memo being supplanted by the Colle Memo.

and then we have the IRS/Treasury Dept, not just DoJ targeting clinics. auy I know runs one in CA -he cannot use banks, he lists his occupaion as drug trafficker.
https://www.drugfree.org/join-together/drugs/medical-marijuana-group

oit is very complicated, I went thru this page after page a yuear or so ago, if I could find the link

Look at US Atty Haag's statement that big clinics are inherently more subject to diversion - despite NO evidence ,


despite the fact Harborside is one of the most well run regulated clinics in the medical states.

In theory I agree with you, in practice, i don't see alot of "change" just promises there will be.

Not saying this has to be this way, but not saying this is "progressive" at all. Don't know yet, but serious red flags

We just got it legalized less than a yr ago. Some changes have been made but there is zero infrastructure in place and most agencies are running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Changes are being made. I hear alot of dumb, shortsighted statements in the local media and I also hear that many counties and communities and businesses and even private organizations have their own regulations or guidelines regarding pot use and that new laws run into conflict with those. Like some employer/employee contracts, for ex.
 
We just got it legalized less than a yr ago. Some changes have been made but there is zero infrastructure in place and most agencies are running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Changes are being made. I hear alot of dumb, shortsighted statements in the local media and I also hear that many counties and communities and businesses and even private organizations have their own regulations or guidelines regarding pot use and that new laws run into conflict with those. Like some employer/employee contracts, for ex.
state legalization is only a small part of the picture. from what I can tell DoJ doesn't change policy in the medical venue.

I do agree this is a new place, but i've seen this before, and the movie always comes out the same. Hopefully we'll see some diference, but I'm not holding my marijans smoke untill I do (I don't use either - i'm not sick)
 
Tell me which president in history accomplished everything they set out to do?

So you voted for him, even though you knew he was lying!

And you did that; because..........................................?
Oh-wait, I forgot. You voted for him; because he was Black. :good4u:
 
Actually, James K Polk literally did complete everything he set out to do. He died shortly after leaving office, so I guess he was quite a workhorse.
 
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