Congress is exempt from Obamacare?

[NOVA]

The problem is, you can't count on republicans to discuss anything with any honesty at all.

They will take a perfectly reasonable comment and spin it so they can use it to create fear amongst their supporters.

It is you leftie clowns making the use of the word 'exemption' a big deal....thats what unreasonable.

The problem is tekkychick is telling you exactly what we've been telling you and Jarhead to hours/days....she chooses to call it a "correction"....

Others call it what it is....the law as it stands says exactly what it says....so an exemption was made for these employees so the existing law didn't apply to them......

Calling it a correction doesn't change anything, but I guess it makes you feel better......it IS an exemption to existing law that many others won't get....they will

obey the law that was passed, until its amended or rescinded.....or they too, get exemptions...or corrections, if thats what floats your boat.

 

[tekkychick]

The bold isn't necessarily true. Nothing got dropped. What happened was that members of Congress and their staffers were required to obtain insurance through the exchanges as opposed to through the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program. The ACA language reads:



The language is all about where they obtain insurance, not how it's paid for.

However, the federal government is the only large employer that is allowed onto the exchanges to provide insurance to its employees and there is no mechanism is the ACA for an employer to make premium contributions to the exchanges. At the same time, the federal government pays about 75% of employee health insurance premium. So the issue became how exactly the government could continue paying a portion of its employees premium as it had previously while its employees obtained insurance through the exchanges. The OPM developed a way for that to happen.

Thanks for clarifying, Dungheap.

 

[zappasguitar]

It is you leftie clowns making the use of the word 'exemption' a big deal....thats what unreasonable.

The problem is tekkychick is telling you exactly what we've been telling you and Jarhead to hours/days....she chooses to call it a "correction"....

Others call it what it is....the law as it stands says exactly what it says....so an exemption was made for these employees so the existing law didn't apply to them......

Calling it a correction doesn't change anything, but I guess it makes you feel better......it IS an exemption to existing law that many others won't get....they will

obey the law that was passed, until its amended or rescinded.....or they too, get exemptions...or corrections, if thats what floats your boat.

Keep up the shrieking and the wailing!

It so very perfectly highlights how much bullshit it is you are shoveling.

Back before ObamaCare became the law, Congress already received health insurance better than the average American...but obviously that didn't bother you.

 

[NOVA]

Thanks for clarifying, Dungheap.

No shit Dick Tracy....the fact that it is not there makes it NOT part of the existing law...thus, the need for the exemption, or correction if you prefer.

and the exemption (or correction) applies to them only....not the rest of society.

 

[Bonestorm]

Thanks for clarifying, Dungheap.

No problem. The argument that Congress intended to get rid of the government paying a share of its employees' health insurance premiums, which is an assumption that the "exemption" camp is making, is really wacky considering the language used in the bill. Here it is again:

The only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are — (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act).

If the argument is that Congress intended to kick members of Congress and their staffers to the exchanges without paying any portion of the premium, the bill would not have mentioned the government making health plans available to its members and their staff. Instead, it just would have said that the federal government shall not make any health insurance available to members of Congress and their staffers. The result would have been that members of Congress and their staff would have to obtain insurance in the private market through the exchanges. But they didn't do that.

 

[Bonestorm]

No shit Dick Tracy....the fact that it is not there makes it NOT part of the existing law...thus, the need for the exemption, or correction if you prefer.

and the exemption (or correction) applies to them only....not the rest of society.

I'd really like to address your point but you've got some vague pronoun usage here. I have no idea what "it" refers to.

 

[NOVA]

Keep up the shrieking and the wailing!

It so very perfectly highlights how much bullshit it is you are shoveling.

Back before ObamaCare became the law, Congress already received health insurance better than the average American...but of course that didn't bother you because a DEMOCRAT didn't institute that policy.

Thats quite irrelevant....the new law means new rules were voted on and put in place by the pinheads in 2010....so what they had in 2009 was no longer..
so.......they got pissed and wanted the same perks they had before Obamacare...and this exemption is to appease them.

The only crying I hear around here is you wanting it to called a 'correction' or something other than an exemption.....you didn't understand it in the first place and it
was explained to all of you in the 2nd post of this now 80 something thread.....

You give new meaning to the terms blabber, bluster, and blow smoke,....clown.

 

[NOVA]

I'd really like to address your point but you've got some vague pronoun usage here. I have no idea what "it" refers to.

Wow...so you forgot what you were talking about in your last post or what the exemption is all about......? Gee...thats too bad.
Not much point in continuing then is there...

 

[Bonestorm]

Wow...so you forgot what you were talking about in your last post or what the exemption is all about......? Gee...thats too bad.
Not much point in continuing then is there...

OK. Alternatively, you could tell me what "it" refers to in that post of yours. But if that's too hard . . .

 

[Jarod]

I am simply happy to find out that President Obama has taken action to ensure that Congressional Employees are treated the same as all other Americans and don't get any special treatment by the ACA.