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PostmodernProphet said:
is it part of your fantasy to believe I think the earth is 6000 years old?......we've covered that several times already.....not sure why you continue to pretend its what I believe......
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Right and so you reject the bible to place Noah at a point BEFORE (not after) 6000 years ago. Go ahead and lay it out for us. How long ago did "cat kind" and the others come off the ark?
 
Professor Baxter said:
Right and so you reject the bible to place Noah at a point BEFORE (not after) 6000 years ago. Go ahead and lay it out for us. How long ago did "cat kind" and the others come off the ark?
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and why does your fantasy dictate Noah was 6000 years ago?......

since the natives of Australia, South America and Africa have stories about their ancestors surviving a flood, logically the incident preceded the dispersal of humanity around the world.....
 
monty1 said:
She's doing nothing more than attempting to reconcile her beliefs to herself. The best way to defeat that sort of Christian is to agree with them because that's not what they are craving. So the best thing you can do is to present evidence to her that the earth is about ten thousand years old. Or some such nonsense because it takes the wind out of their sails immediately.

And by arguing with her you are actually proving that you are as big a fool as she is. You actually think you could win an argument with the faithful???
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Shut the fuck up, you pretentious ass. Most of this is carrying over from pmp doing exactly what you said he should not and trying to argue scientific basis for his nonsense. If he wants to remain in his own NOMA i will leave it to him.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
is it part of your fantasy to believe I think the earth is 6000 years old?......we've covered that several times already.....not sure why you continue to pretend its what I believe......
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Christians who abandon the literal beliefs have lost the debate before they even begin. That allows me to walk away from it feeling satisfied that they are not true believers but have compromised their beliefs out of necessity in a modern world.

No evolutionist is ever going to see a bigger victory than that by arguing with a creationist.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
not possible still means not possible....
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And indicate does not mean proves. It indicates that life must be older than the earth. You claim that as fact and use the paper as support. It indicated that intelligent life could not have created or seeded the earth and your rejected that. You are cherry picking which is what you do with every science article discussing evolution and life origins.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and why does your fantasy dictate Noah was 6000 years ago?......

since the natives of Australia, South America and Africa have stories about their ancestors surviving a flood, logically the incident preceded the dispersal of humanity around the world.....
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Not my fairy tale. I have no reason to believe Noah ever existed. The bible indicates that he did less than 6000 years ago.

Because Australia, South America and Africa have never had localized floods? Non sequitur.

But please tell us how long ago do you believe these myths passed mainly through oral traditions accurately describe a worldwide flood? 100,000 years ago? 25 million years ago when the first "cat" was believed to have lived and if so what was Noah? And why are you holding on to that if you accept that evolution can explain the diversity of life beyond "kinds?"
 
Professor Baxter said:
Not my fairy tale. I have no reason to believe Noah ever existed. The bible indicates that he did less than 6000 years ago.

Because Australia, South America and Africa have never had localized floods? Non sequitur.

But please tell us how long ago do you believe these myths passed mainly through oral traditions accurately describe a worldwide flood? 100,000 years ago? 25 million years ago when the first "cat" was believed to have lived and if so what was Noah? And why are you holding on to that if you accept that evolution can explain the diversity of life beyond "kinds?"
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The Biblucal flood story is two stories from Mesopotamia, one from the 17th century BCE and the other from an 18th century BCE, edited into a single version. The stories were adopted when the Israelites came into contact with the Assyrians. It is the consensus of most Biblical and Near East scholars.

Reading the account in Genesis you can see the variation in the stories, one account says two of every kind, while the other account states 7. One account says the flood lasted 40 days while the other 150.
 
The idea that your myths accurately describe factual events that happened 6000 years ago is hard enough. But now we are supposed to believe these oral traditions are accurate on a much longer time frame.

As monty1 pointed out, you are caught in a trap. You can either argue idiotic nonsense like Ken Ham or you can accept the old testament as nothing more than parables and allegory. Ham's ridiculous ideas, where he completely rejects science, are more plausible than yours, pmp.
 
Professor Baxter said:
The idea that your myths accurately describe factual events that happened 6000 years ago is hard enough. But now we are supposed to believe these oral traditions are accurate on a much longer time frame.

As monty1 pointed out, you are caught in a trap. You can either argue idiotic nonsense like Ken Ham or you can accept the old testament as nothing more than parables and allegory. Ham's ridiculous ideas, where he completely rejects science, are more plausible than yours, pmp.
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At least Ken Ham can be credited with being faithful to the bible and to it's literal interpretation. I hand that to him at least.

But in so doing it makes him an outrageous fraud who isn't going to be accepted by many Christians. They really do have their problems now that 21st. century knowledge flies directly in the face of nearly everything they try to claim.

Not worth the effort to argue with anymore.
 
monty1 said:
Christians who abandon the literal beliefs have lost the debate before they even begin.
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I believe the Bible is literally true in what it states literally.......I do not consider the poetry in the Bible to be something said literally any more than I consider Carl Sandburg's poetry to be a literal statement......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I believe the Bible is literally true in what it states literally.......I do not consider the poetry in the Bible to be something said literally any more than I consider Carl Sandburg's poetry to be a literal statement......
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So, which parts are literal and which are poetry?
 
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