Will jurors just forget what they heard?

[SmarterthanYou]

The belief has to be reasonable not accurate. If the cop said he believed his life was in danger because he saw the person was pointing a cell phone at him, that would obviously be unreasonable. If he said he thought the person was pointing a gun at him I would have other questions before being comfortable that the belief was reasonable.

Like it or not cops are held to different standard. But do you have such a case where a cop beat a murder charge on self defense or is this based based on an episode of Law and Order?

maybe you should expand your attention span and remember the hundreds of posts I've made about it on here. and would that different standard be more restrictive or less restrictive?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

The belief has to be reasonable not accurate. If the cop said he believed his life was in danger because he saw the person was pointing a cell phone at him, that would obviously be unreasonable. If he said he thought the person was pointing a gun at him I would have other questions before being comfortable that the belief was reasonable.

Like it or not cops are held to different standard. But do you have such a case where a cop beat a murder charge on self defense or is this based based on an episode of Law and Order?

So you admit that if Zimmerman thought that Martin was an immediate threat to his life, then he was justified.
Thanks for participating.

 

[DamnYankee]

George Zimmerman had bad credit, it is one reason he could not become a policeman.

That's it! Convict the bastard.

 

[Timshel]

In your presentation

Lol.... I win!!!

 

[Timshel]

So you admit that if Zimmerman thought that Martin was an immediate threat to his life, then he was justified.
Thanks for participating.

Nope, he has to have reasonable belief that there was a threat. If the prosecution proves his belief was not reasonable then he has a problem.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Nope, he has to have reasonable belief that there was a threat. If the prosecution proves his belief was not reasonable then he has a problem.

again, reasonable to whom? ask a cop if it's reasonable that his life is in danger with someone on top of him pounding and grounding.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Lol.... I win!!!

Nope - You lose; but I can see why you want to have it perceived as a win for you.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Nope, he has to have reasonable belief that there was a threat. If the prosecution proves his belief was not reasonable then he has a problem.

But they can't PROVE what Zimmerman was thinking at the time that Trayvon was assaulting him and putting Zimmerman's life at risk.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

why are you so invested in Zimmy?

Why are you so invested in Trayvon? He your baby daddy? You hate Hispanics?

 

[DamnYankee]

She hates white guys.

 

[Minister of Truth]

George Zimmerman had bad credit, it is one reason he could not become a policeman.

Wow, that's what the force frowns upon? No wonder the evidence lockers get raided so frequently!

 

[Phantasmal]

Wow, that's what the force frowns upon? No wonder the evidence lockers get raided so frequently!

If you need money, they conclude you might be more likely to take pay offs.

 

[Timshel]

maybe you should expand your attention span and remember the hundreds of posts I've made about it on here. and would that different standard be more restrictive or less restrictive?

Are you suffering under the delusion that you matter?

 

[Timshel]

again, reasonable to whom? ask a cop if it's reasonable that his life is in danger with someone on top of him pounding and grounding.

If all a cop did to defend himself against being struck was pull his gun and shoot, you would be screaming.

 

[Timshel]

Nope - You lose; but I can see why you want to have it perceived as a win for you.

You are incapable of citing any instance of where I speculated. Your response was an obvious dodge.

 

[Timshel]

But they can't PROVE what Zimmerman was thinking at the time that Trayvon was assaulting him and putting Zimmerman's life at risk.

Which is why that is not the standard.

 

[Socrtease]

But they can't PROVE what Zimmerman was thinking at the time that Trayvon was assaulting him and putting Zimmerman's life at risk.

This isn't the standard. It is a reasonable person standard. Would a reasonable person in Zimmerman's situation think that deadly force was necessary. This means that a reasonable person would believe, given the evidence, that they were in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

You are incapable of citing any instance of where I speculated. Your response was an obvious dodge.

Nor could you with my post.
You just threw it out there and hoped it would stick.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Which is why that is not the standard.

But it is also why it is part of the defense.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

This isn't the standard. It is a reasonable person standard. Would a reasonable person in Zimmerman's situation think that deadly force was necessary. This means that a reasonable person would believe, given the evidence, that they were in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm.

So you agree with the fact that Zimmerman probably thought his life was in imminent danger when Trayvon was banging his head on the sidewalk, unless someone can show that Trayvon intended to stop after 2 or 3 times.