Gobblement can seize your DNA, according the the Conservatives on the S. Ct.

[Jarod]

So drawing blood of someone who has been arrested for a DUI should not be allowed.

not generally, no. Unless they consent.

 

[Jarod]

I sisagree with blood draws without a warrant. But in a DUI the case is better than a blanket DNA test for ever arrest. Testing blood for alch content is collecting evidence of the pArticular crime, blanket DNA tests are not.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

not generally, no. Unless they consent.

You forgot about the fact that they can request a warrant to draw the blood.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

WOWSER. BIG leap there, buddy! hope you didn't hurt yourself going over the cliff!

not a big leap at all. do YOU own your body or does the GOVERNMENT? pretty simple and not a leap whatsoever.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

no that's not what I said!

then explain your position, doing it as a regular citizen and not using lawyer speak.

 

[Jarod]

then explain your position, doing it as a regular citizen and not using lawyer speak.

I'm saying the gvt should not be allowed to forcibly collect such (DNA) data from the insides of the bodies of people not convicted of any crimes (without a warrant).

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I'm saying the gvt should not be allowed to forcibly collect such (DNA) data from the insides of the bodies of people not convicted of any crimes (without a warrant).

and can they be trusted with the databases they inevitably build with that data?

 

[Don Quixote]

Only if it's destroyed after testing. Not saying it is -I don't know what happens to it - but that's what "should" happen. Breathalyzer is less intrusive.

never ever take a breathalyzer test. your perfume can make it give a false positive as can breath sprays and other innocent items.

yes, destroying the dna if a person is found innocent is absolutely necessary.

as for taking samples from 'inside' the body, we already take blood and urine samples if a breathalyzer test is declined.

we already have photographic and fingerprint data, it is not a far reach to include dna, by the way, photographic and fingerprint data needs to be purged if a person is found innocent.

oth, dna may be used to identify a dead person...

 

[Jarod]

and can they be trusted with the databases they inevitably build with that data?

That's a different question. I think if you commit a crime, or voluntarily give that information to them, that's a chance you have to take.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Scalia's dissent had some good stuff. Like him or not, he can spit hot fire:




http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-207_d18e.pdf

Like Ashcroft, Scalia gets a shot in the arm when he realizes just how far his right wing ideology can go.