Why does Israel support Al Qaida - Aren't they supposed to be enemies?

Something very strange is going on with the so-called 'war on terror.'

Israel and the United States both SUPPORT Al Qaida, the most vicious gang of terrorists in the world .. the same gang that was supposedly behind 9/11.

Why would Israel, who Al Qaida supposedly hates most of all, be supporting them?

Israel caught supporting Al-Qaeda terrorists from Syria

Not only has Israel supported Al-Qaeda-led rebels in Syria, but back in 2002 Israel was caught actually creating an Al-Qaeda group in order to justify attacks on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
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http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013...ht-supporting-al-qaeda-terrorists-from-syria/

Israel 'faked al-Qaeda presence'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2550513.stm

Syria: Attack on military facility was a 'declaration of war' by Israel
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/05/world/meast/syria-violence

-- I'm simply asking for opinion.

Coalitions in the middle east are complicated. Syria is led by a Shia dictator, but has a Sunni majority. The Shia dictator (technically an Alawite, which is different enough that you could consider it it's own sect, but they sprang from Shia's, and align with Shia's politically) and Israel have extremely poor relations, and has affiliations with Hezbollah, the group in Lebanon that has caused Israel so much grief. Now the people are rebelling and toppling the Sunni dictator, and I suppose that, if these reports are true, Israel has simply decided that the a success on the part of the rebels would be in their best interests. Neither side, of course, would be ideal partners, but the Sunni lead of the middle east (Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc...) have generally calmed down over time and come to an accord with Israel, while the Shiite lead parts (Iran and Syria; Iraq is majority Shi'a, but Shi'a Islamist parties don't have a majority, so I'm not counting it; Lebanon has only a Shi'a minority, but is such a heavily self-segregated society that Hezbollah can operate with impunity in the Shi'a regions, so you could kind of count them) are still very hostile. I suppose, then, that it would make sense on some level for the Israelis to decide that Sunni lead neighbors are the lesser affliction and side with them.

But Al-Qaeda, for its part, is a Sunni Islamist organization, and would support the Sunni side, as they despise Shias and are heavily involved in Muslim sectarian conflict. So, it very well could be that you'd have the very odd situation that Israel and Al-Qaeda would be supporting the same side in such a conflict. This wouldn't represent any sort of lull in their blood feud, certainly not some kind of de facto alliance this article seems to paint. And the source does not seem very reliable. If it's not just making shit up about Israel helping the rebels at all, then they are likely using a very creative definition of the term "Al-Qaeda terrorist", that more or less means "Someone fighting against a tyrannical government as part of a loose coalition of resistance forces, which has received some unreciprocated statements of support from Al-Qaeda, and which some individuals who have indirect links to the said organization may self-identify with", which is not quite the same as the "crazed Islamist with a bomb strapped to their chest targeting innocent civilians" that such a description would normally bring to mind. I imagine they were taught in one of those schools where kids are allowed to use their own spellings so as not discourage them or hurt their self-esteem, and were quite proud of that gold star everyone got.
 
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FUCK YOU. As a Jew, I spit in your face.

Man, this is golden. I often troll with size 7 fonts, sometimes I change the color as well, I always make hyperbolic denunciations. But who would've known they'd go so well together? I wish I would've thought of doing something like this in the China thread. And that I was Chinese, so it would make sense.
 
Well, when you find a thread so polluted by antisemitism, it is prudent just to amuse yourself with trolling. Normally it's neoconfederates, and you just engage in badmouthing the South (which isn't really trolling).
 
Well, when you find a thread so polluted by antisemitism, it is prudent just to amuse yourself with trolling. Normally it's neoconfederates, and you just engage in badmouthing the South (which isn't really trolling).

Badmouthing the south isn't trolling. It's what the elite members of the Kewl Kids do with aplomb. :)
 
Obviously it wasn't the Libyan people who fought against Gaddafi, but rather Al Qaida .. from BENGHZAI.

It isn't the Syrian people who are fighting against Assad either, but rather elements of Al Qaida.

Without massive assistance from NATO .. the Libyan 'rebels' would have been easily crushed by the government and the people.

The world saw what we did in Libya and they aren't having it in Syria .. thus, the so-called 'rebels' there are being crushed.

Syrian opposition calls for Nato protection
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/mid...yria-crisis-assad-forces-retake-baba-amr-live

Syria's buds with Russia, China's also has some interests in them, and that's twice as many votes Permanent Security Council members on your side as you need to ignore international law. Libya, on the other hand, had mostly pissed everyone off. Maybe not China, it's pretty difficult to morally disgust the CPC, but they're also no one's friend, they just took a cold look at the war and asked themselves who they thought was probably going to win, and jumped on that side so after the war they could say "Hey, I was on your side!" So, thrown aside like a used doll, didn't even get any cred for being a fellow dictatorship in need. Syria was wise, they knew they needed more than that, and so they gave them a naval base that's not covered in ice for most of the year nor on a body of water that's, strategically, a lake, besides a narrow strait controlled by certain Orthodoxy oppressing NATO joiners. For a country like Russia, this is pretty much like putting a ring on it. It's fine darling, kill everyone you want.
 
I haven't whined about the source and have instead shown it to be innaccurate.

You are in fact correct. I apologize for the mischaracterization .. although I disagree with your definition of 'inaccurate'. I agree that there are some inaccuracies and things seemingly taken out of context, but overall, it raises serious questions about Israeli involvement in Syria.

"Not only has Israel supported Al-Qaeda-led rebels in Syria, but back in 2002 Israel was caught actually creating an Al-Qaeda group in order to justify attacks on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip."

That is an accurate statement. Why are they supporting Al Qaida in Syria is the question that I'm asking. It could be simply that they don't know which way to turn in the conflict and feel increasingly squeezed from all sides. It could be something else.

You may have noticed that I also posted two other articles along with that one in hopes of a civil conversation about the issue.

NOTHING even remotely anti-semitic is inferred. It's a question of foreign policy .. a foreign policy that effects the American people.

I expected idiocy, so I included, -- I'm simply asking for opinion -- but Howey couldn't wait to reach for the Jewish-card.
 
You are in fact correct. I apologize for the mischaracterization .. although I disagree with your definition of 'inaccurate'. I agree that some inaccuracies and things seemingly taken out of context, but overall, it raises serious questions about Israeli involvement in Syria.

"Not only has Israel supported Al-Qaeda-led rebels in Syria, but back in 2002 Israel was caught actually creating an Al-Qaeda group in order to justify attacks on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip."

That is an accurate statement. Why are they supporting Al Qaida in Syria is the question that I'm asking. It could be simply that they don't know which way to turn in the conflict and feel increasingly squeezed from all sides. It could be something else.

NOTHING even remotely anti-semitic is inferred. It's a question of foreign policy .. a foreign policy that effects the American people.

Howey couldn't wait to reach for his Jewish-card.

Hey. You're the one who quoted a virulently anti-semitic website. And were given three pages to apologize for it, which you never did.

We, not just me, must assume you are as anti-semitic as a Nazi, BlackasHitler.
 
You are in fact correct. I apologize for the mischaracterization .. although I disagree with your definition of 'inaccurate'. I agree that there are some inaccuracies and things seemingly taken out of context, but overall, it raises serious questions about Israeli involvement in Syria.

"Not only has Israel supported Al-Qaeda-led rebels in Syria, but back in 2002 Israel was caught actually creating an Al-Qaeda group in order to justify attacks on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip."

That is an accurate statement. Why are they supporting Al Qaida in Syria is the question that I'm asking. It could be simply that they don't know which way to turn in the conflict and feel increasingly squeezed from all sides. It could be something else.

You may have noticed that I also posted two other articles along with that one in hopes of a civil conversation about the issue.

NOTHING even remotely anti-semitic is inferred. It's a question of foreign policy .. a foreign policy that effects the American people.

I expected idiocy, so I included, -- I'm simply asking for opinion -- but Howey couldn't wait to reach for the Jewish-card.

As I said before, the main reason would seem to be that they want to deal a heavy blow to Hezbollah and to Shi'ite regimes like Iran.
 
Btw, BAH, your complete lack of knowledge of the intricate dealings of international politics and the bedfellows it creates is no excuse for your antisemitism.
 
As I said before, the main reason would seem to be that they want to deal a heavy blow to Hezbollah and to Shi'ite regimes like Iran.

.. at the expense of an Al Qaida safe-haven on their doorsteps? Would that be better than Assad?

The question that seems to never gets asked is, why Al Qaida? Not just why would Israel support Al Qaida, but why do we?

Why does Al Qaida always appear to be on our side?
 
"Not only has Israel supported Al-Qaeda-led rebels in Syria.....

That is an accurate statement.


So you keep claiming. You veteransnewsnow article made it up. Citing the DEBKA and AFP articles as it's source, but when you read both of those articles you see that they make no such claim in reference to Al Qaeda.
 
.. at the expense of an Al Qaida safe-haven on their doorsteps? Would that be better than Assad?

The question that seems to never gets asked is, why Al Qaida? Not just why would Israel support Al Qaida, but why do we?

Why does Al Qaida always appear to be on our side?

As I said before there are many disparate rebel groupings, some of those are AQ related but there are many more that are supported by Turkey, the Muslim Brotherhood and by Kurds. It is far too simplistic to say that they are all AQ backed. One thing that you are overlooking is that if a hardline Islamist regime gained control in Syria, Israel would no longer be pariahs to many governments but the front line in the war on terrorism. Maybe they hope that AQ and Hezbollah will annihilate each other?
 
So you keep claiming. You veteransnewsnow article made it up. Citing the DEBKA and AFP articles as it's source, but when you read both of those articles you see that they make no such claim in reference to Al Qaeda.

:0) I retract that apology.

You're still whining.

Evidence of Israeli support for the Syrian rebels .. who are composed of several factions of Al Qaida .. extends far beyond the article you keep whining about.

There is a civil war going on in Syria .. government on one side, Al Qaida 'rebels' on the other .. Israelis bomb the government.

Please continue whining about the article and ignore everything else .. with someone else.
 
As I said before there are many disparate rebel groupings, some of those are AQ related but there are many more that are supported by Turkey, the Muslim Brotherhood and by Kurds. It is far too simplistic to say that they are all AQ backed. One thing that you are overlooking is that if a hardline Islamist regime gained control in Syria, Israel would no longer be pariahs to many governments but the front line in the war on terrorism.

:0) I'm not ignoring that at all brother .. in fact, the MIC couldn't dream of a more profitable scenario.

I'm asking for the opinions of others .. and yours is appreciated.

I don't necessarily disagree.
 
Nobody is supporting Al Qaueda.
Being a Jew, if anything, Al Qaueda despises Israel to the maximum extent.
 
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