BAC, all due respect, the only way those gun death numbers are that high is the inclusion of suicides. And if someone commits suicide with a firearm, they were serious about wanting to die. Anyone that serious about wanting to die is gonna do it, with or without a gun.
I disagree. Availability of a gun makes suicide easier and leaves less time to think about what one is doing.
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The Person You’re Most Likely To Kill With Your Gun Is You
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There are 51,438 licensed retail gun stores in America, more than three times the number of McDonald’s restaurants.
Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins University Center for Gun Policy, told Bloomberg that it’s unclear if gun ownership is linked to violence. But there seems to be a clear link to gun availability, and familiarity with guns and suicide.
A Harvard University study conducted in 2007 found that “States with higher levels of household gun ownership had higher rates of firearm suicide and overall suicide.”
Adolescents who commit suicide by firearm generally use the family gun. Veterans have continually demonstrated high rates of suicide by firearm. Suicide by firearm is, of course, much more effective than other methods.
Gun deaths have been slowly rising since 2000, while deaths related to motor vehicles have plummeted since 2007
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Those who oppose further regulation of guns make the argument that guns are necessary for self-defense.
The 2011 study “Guns in the home provide greater health risk than benefit” showed that a gun is more likely to send a family member to the emergency room or the morgue than to ever be used against an intruder.
As the nation considers what can be done about gun violence, the issue of how to protect gun owners from themselves definitely needs to be considered.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-person-youre-most-likely-to-kill-with-your-gun-is-you/
Maybe they should buy another gun so they can protect themselves, and shoot .. themselves, when they try to shoot .. themselves.
Makes about as much sense as anything else in a nation in love with guns.
racist!!!While their jacking up prices because the buhlack man got elected and the lemmings keep buying away.
SUCKERS!
never happen, but I bet it was the best dream you ever had.Someday you fools will look back on the past year and think..."Wow, I spent twice the retail price for all these guns I stocked up on and now that the gun ban's in effect I have to turn them in to President Clinton?" Boo hoo!
BAC, all due respect, the only way those gun death numbers are that high is the inclusion of suicides. And if someone commits suicide with a firearm, they were serious about wanting to die. Anyone that serious about wanting to die is gonna do it, with or without a gun.
this means what, exactly? have you ever studied the psychology behind suicide? It doesn't have to include a gun. there's no 'evil icky' behind a gun that forces people to kill themselves.I disagree. Availability of a gun makes suicide easier and leaves less time to think about what one is doing.
Not exactly true. If you really want to commit suicide .. use a gun. Much higher rates of 'success.'
A lot of these guns they love so much are going to be used to kill themselves more than self-protection.
Do you think suicide is a "spur of the moment" decision? The availability may make it easier. But not having one available certainly doesn't make it very difficult.
If someone wants to die, they will be able to do it. But I doubt very seriously if anyone makes a snap decision and just shoots themselves. And jumping off a bridge or tall building doesn't leave much time to change their mind either.
If you want to help suicides, gun laws are not the route to take. Awareness and availability of quality mental health services would be the way to go.
In contrast, suicides are often solitary, impulsive acts, experts say.
That is why a cornerstone of suicide prevention is simple: “restricting access to common and particularly lethal means for everyone — we know that’s effective,” said Dan Reidenberg, executive director of SAVE (Suicide Awareness and Voices of Education), a national suicide prevention group.
That means different things in different places. In Britain, suicide prevention efforts in the late 1990s involved banning the sales of large bottles of paracetamol (known as Tylenol in the United States), which had been used in tens of thousands of suicide attempts each year. When I was reporting from China a decade ago, rural officials responded to an epidemic of suicide among women by restricting pesticide sales.
In the United States, we build barriers on bridges, but have fewer barriers to the quick access to guns: “In the U.S. one of the most straightforward things to do to prevent suicide is to make firearms less accessible,” Dr. Gunnell said. The Lewiecki family believes that Kerry might well be alive if there had been a waiting period before purchase in Oregon. Studies suggest that far fewer American teenagers would commit suicide if gun owners were required to use trigger locks. Seventy-five percent of the guns used in youth suicides and unintentional injuries were accessible in the home or the home of a friend.
BAC, all due respect, but if there is so little crime that people don't need guns in their homes for self defense, then we can surely do without so many police on our streets and laws on our books, can we not?
Granted, a gun does provide a surety that pills or carbon monoxide may not. But I don't think these people will survive if they have no handy firearm.
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The Person You’re Most Likely To Kill With Your Gun Is You
excerpts
There are 51,438 licensed retail gun stores in America, more than three times the number of McDonald’s restaurants.
Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins University Center for Gun Policy, told Bloomberg that it’s unclear if gun ownership is linked to violence. But there seems to be a clear link to gun availability, and familiarity with guns and suicide.
A Harvard University study conducted in 2007 found that “States with higher levels of household gun ownership had higher rates of firearm suicide and overall suicide.”
Adolescents who commit suicide by firearm generally use the family gun. Veterans have continually demonstrated high rates of suicide by firearm. Suicide by firearm is, of course, much more effective than other methods.
Gun deaths have been slowly rising since 2000, while deaths related to motor vehicles have plummeted since 2007
![]()
Those who oppose further regulation of guns make the argument that guns are necessary for self-defense.
The 2011 study “Guns in the home provide greater health risk than benefit” showed that a gun is more likely to send a family member to the emergency room or the morgue than to ever be used against an intruder.
As the nation considers what can be done about gun violence, the issue of how to protect gun owners from themselves definitely needs to be considered.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-person-youre-most-likely-to-kill-with-your-gun-is-you/
Maybe they should buy another gun so they can protect themselves, and shoot .. themselves, when they try to shoot .. themselves.
Makes about as much sense as anything else in a nation in love with guns.
In all honesty, I don't really have a position on guns. I used to be against them, and spiritually I still am. However, I cannot tell another how best to protect themselves from the night. I recognize the reality of the terror.
That being said, I also recognize the terror and insanity of a society in love with a gun.
I grew up in Detroit. Today, everybody there has a gun. Everyone in my family still there carries a gun. I have a son who is a cop there .. and he seemingly has thousands of guns.
Of course when the Detroit police has this to say ..
Enter At Your Own Risk: Police Union Says ‘War-Like’ Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/10...says-war-like-detroit-is-unsafe-for-visitors/
Far be it for me to decide what someone should do to protect themselves and their families there.
But do you know one big reason why the city is so dangerous? .. It's because everybody has guns.
Personally, I don't need a gun .. never have, and I've always lived in urban environments because I prefer them.
My answer to your question brother is that I believe America is beyond the ability to really do anything about our avalanche of guns.
BAC these are the best posts about guns I've seen here, mostly because you really tapped into my own ambivalence and cynicism on the topic.