The Unbelievers

cawacko said:
My boy from Oakland posted this today on Facebook. This is compassionate to me.


I know God has a plan. Yesterday I saw my cousins who are fathers, grandfathers, hardworking good men. Well God and our families know that years ago we were on a path to be some of the biggest gangsters Oakland has ever seen which means we would all be dead or in jail now. But by the power of God our lives were all transformed and these should of been dead or in jail gangsters are showing off grandkid pictures, taking kids to practice and helping with homework, working overtime and giving out lots of hugs to their families. I know God has a plan!- Shawn G.
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Which god?
 
NOVA said:
I'm an agnostic....I don't know, one way or the other....

Why don't YOU show us incontrovertible evidence that a deity does not exist....
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Well done, sailor sam. That is the stupidest post of the day on all counts. IF you are agnostic then why argue about something about which you are unsure? You should be asking, not telling.
 
Lowaicue said:
Well done, sailor sam. That is the stupidest post of the day on all counts. IF you are agnostic then why argue about something about which you are unsure? You should be asking, not telling.
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strangest thing......it actually looks a lot like a question to me.....I wonder why Lowe doesn't realize he's asking......
 
NOVA said:
Well said....thats something SirChickenshit needs to realize....though not necessary for everyone, it is essential for some and for those that find it essential
they usually have a tendency to 'want others to see the light' ..... its not something to get your ass in a uproar about....its not something to fear as some
the pinheads do.....like some Christian is gonna put a spell on them and turn them into bishops or something worse....

Saying Merry Christmas or Happy Easter or glancing at a Creche or Menora won't put a curse on you or your kids....get over that shit already....
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You are either too stupid to understand the point I made or too dishonest.

They may believe they need it, and that is fine, but they don't actually need it.

I have no problem saying merry Christmas. Who knows what the fuck you are babbling about with that?
 
Thithicus said:
That's all well and good, but your ideas have no relevance whatsoever in today's world. Communism failed miserably and killed 100 million people in the process. That man in your avatar is perhaps the worst mass murderer in world history.
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Haha, for a single post, there sure are quite a few mistakes. Let me break it down.

1. Communism has a lot of relevance. Look at all the problems capitalism's faces, and it's apparent unsustainability. Look at the recent success of co-ops. Look at the threat of corporations. Remember the financial crisis? Well, sales of the CM saw a spike. There're also a number of world renowned economists pushing communism. Most of today's social saftey net is a product of communism. It's not relevant in the revolutionary sense, but, just as Marx abandoned Marxism, modern communists have looked for a democratic middle path.
2. Stalin was an overwhelmingly negative force - especially for communism. That in mind, it'd probably be a good idea to establish my political tendency: market democratic socialism. The reason I have Stalin and Trotsky in my avatar is because I've always found the relationship between their schools to be interesting.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
strangest thing......it actually looks a lot like a question to me.....I wonder why Lowe doesn't realize he's asking......
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It was a challenge not a question and a stupid challenge at that. Do you need help with your English?
 
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USFREEDOM911 said:
Just because God didn't solve the problems you were having, doesn't mean that he doesn't exist.
Maybe you didn't do enough to help solve them yourself.
This would explain your totally sour attitude to just about everything in life.
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hahahahahahahahah


I never looked to God.

I gave up on religion after at arround five I went to church with my mother and heard a sermon on Abraham being told by god to stab his son to death.


It did not soothe me when God said "just kidding" I was just checking your trustworthiness.


I was smart enough to remember I had already been told that god knows everything.


If he knows everything then why play that very cruel and evil game.

Then on top of that it meant if he wanted my parents to play that game with me he might.

I at five years old decided I wanted nothing to do with that religion.


all religions claim they are the one true way.


that means the vast majority HAVE to be wrong.


I think they are ALL wrong.

they dont know the way.


love is the way.

loving mankind is the way.

being kind is the way.

being humble is the way.


knowing yourself is the way.


fighting evil is the way.


not allowing evil any place to exist on the planet is the way.

Turning you head to your fellow mans pain is evil.


why do republicans always try to make the case for turning your head to your fellow man?


becasue they are run by evil men.

evil men call the suffering lazy mooochers.

evil men see suffering children and say so what.


evil men seprate people out by physical differances to point out so they can figure out a reason to tell people "you dont need to care abot them they are way browner then you".


evil men subjugate women so they can sideline half of their competition from they day they are born.



evil men speak in the name of gods to take scraps of gold from the poor to build great houses to prove how godly they are and that GOD built this house.

good men would never have spent the money that way.

good men would have fed the poor


good men would have stood against killing people who are "in the wrong religion"


good men would have not run brothels owned by the catholic church.


Good men would not have tortured people into accepting god.




I have yet to see a church group who gets it right.



Becuase they are being told lies.
 
evince said:
I gave up on religion after at arround five I went to church with my mother and heard a sermon on Abraham being told by god to stab his son to death.
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so basically, having maintained your level of understanding to that of a five year old, do you still believe that was what that sermon said?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
odd....why is it a stupid challenge when we turn it back to you, but not when you try to use it on us?........
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You know why. You dont need me to tell you. Answer my point first then we can continue. Can you show empirical evidence that can be modelled and repeated that there is a deity - any deity - anywhere. It is not for me to give evidence of nothing, you know that is impossible. So stop screwing around, show me or admit you have only your taught faith to go on and it is supported by nothing. If you are not capable of giving a straight answer forget it and go and plant potatoes. I dont give a shit.
 
Lowaicue said:
Well done, sailor sam. That is the stupidest post of the day on all counts. IF you are agnostic then why argue about something about which you are unsure? You should be asking, not telling.
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Where have I argued one way or the other ?......Don't mis-characterize what I write....

I defend those that believe because its their right ....and visa versa.....I side with them when government tries to deny them that right to freely practice their
religion in public, its their right.....and when gov. does allow it, it isn't gov. endorsing anything, its gov. minding their own business.

Like the nonsense of not allowing teachers or any civil servert to wear a tiny cross or have a Bible or Torah or Koran in their desk...thats not gov. endorsing
anything.....its the free practice of religion......
 
Professor Baxter said:
You are either too stupid to understand the point I made or too dishonest.

They may believe they need it, and that is fine, but they don't actually need it.

I have no problem saying merry Christmas. Who knows what the fuck you are babbling about with that?
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Saying Merry Christmas or Happy Easter is the free practice of religion to some, to others its nothing more that a holiday greeting and not religious at all....


Really?....wtf are you to tell people WHAT the need and don't need....especially when it comes to the spiritual or emotional side of life.....
 
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NOVA said:
Really?....wtf are you to tell people WHAT the need and don't need....especially when it comes to the spiritual or emotional side of life.....
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Again, douchebag, it's not me telling them that makes it so. You can believe whatever the fuck you want. I don't care. But perception is not reality.
 
Professor Baxter said:
Again, douchebag, it's not me telling them that makes it so. You can believe whatever the fuck you want. I don't care. But perception is not reality.
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Wrong again sonny....perception IS REALITY in many instances......the reality for each individual.....and not many people 'perceive' exactly the same things all the time......
 
NOVA said:
I'm an agnostic....I don't know, one way or the other....

Why don't YOU show us incontrovertible evidence that a deity does not exist....
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That's not how it works. Since you are the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

Prove to me that invisible unicorns do not live on the Moon. You cannot; therefore, invisible unicorns live on the Moon. Is that logical to you?
 
NOVA said:
Wrong again sonny....perception IS REALITY in many instances......the reality for each individual.....and not many people 'perceive' exactly the same things all the time......
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If your pseudo philosophical insights were accurate then Christian Scientists would not be killing their children through neglect. Perception is not reality.
 
Thithicus said:
That's not how it works. Since you are the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

Prove to me that invisible unicorns do not live on the Moon. You cannot; therefore, invisible unicorns live on the Moon. Is that logical to you?
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when have you ever seen a Christian ask for anything other than what is demanded of them by atheists?.......
 
evince said:
hahahahahahahahah


I never looked to God.

I gave up on religion after at arround five I went to church with my mother and heard a sermon on Abraham being told by god to stab his son to death.


It did not soothe me when God said "just kidding" I was just checking your trustworthiness.


I was smart enough to remember I had already been told that god knows everything.


If he knows everything then why play that very cruel and evil game.

Then on top of that it meant if he wanted my parents to play that game with me he might.

I at five years old decided I wanted nothing to do with that religion.


all religions claim they are the one true way.


that means the vast majority HAVE to be wrong.


I think they are ALL wrong.

they dont know the way.


love is the way.

loving mankind is the way.

being kind is the way.

being humble is the way.


knowing yourself is the way.


fighting evil is the way.


not allowing evil any place to exist on the planet is the way.

Turning you head to your fellow mans pain is evil.


why do republicans always try to make the case for turning your head to your fellow man?


becasue they are run by evil men.

evil men call the suffering lazy mooochers.

evil men see suffering children and say so what.


evil men seprate people out by physical differances to point out so they can figure out a reason to tell people "you dont need to care abot them they are way browner then you".


evil men subjugate women so they can sideline half of their competition from they day they are born.



evil men speak in the name of gods to take scraps of gold from the poor to build great houses to prove how godly they are and that GOD built this house.

good men would never have spent the money that way.

good men would have fed the poor


good men would have stood against killing people who are "in the wrong religion"


good men would have not run brothels owned by the catholic church.


Good men would not have tortured people into accepting god.




I have yet to see a church group who gets it right.



Becuase they are being told lies.
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You sound like you suffer from a physcosis.
 
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