Democrats fret over Obamacare as 2014 looms

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The Force is With Me
Democrats are fretting that Obamacare is going to crush their hopes of big gains in the midterm elections, just like it cost them the House in 2010.

And as bad-news headlines and big-time dips in the polls pile up, the signs of anxiety are starting to show.

On Monday night, South Carolina’s Elizabeth Colbert Busch, a favorite of the Democratic left, couldn't get away from the law fast enough, calling Obamacare “extremely problematic” — a quote that got wide play from GOP groups like the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

Sen. Max Baucus warned that there could be a “train wreck” if the Obamacare outreach doesn’t improve — and he helped give birth to the law in the Senate

And during at least two meetings with administration officials last week, Democrats told the White House they don’t like how the law’s implementation and messaging are going.

It's no wonder why: On Tuesday, a Kaiser Family Foundation poll showed just 35 percent of Americans hold a favorable view of the law, right as the administration is planning to roll it out.

All the panic forced President Barack Obama to rush to the law's defense, saying at a news conference Tuesday: “Even if we do everything perfectly, there'll still be, you know, glitches and bumps. … And that's pretty much true of every government program that's ever been set up.”

Obama’s goal was to dismiss what he called “all the hue and cry and, you know, sky-is-falling predictions about this stuff.”
Don't bet on that happening. Democrats have been fretting about the law since it passed, and they're not exactly falling in love with it now either.

The NRSC latched onto Colbert Busch’s comments from Monday night, sending out a press release boasting that she joins a “chorus of Democrats who are running for office and running from Obamacare.”

Colbert Busch, considered one of the most prominent Democratic candidates in the country, distanced herself considerably from Obamacare Monday night in a debate with former Gov. Mark Sanford.

She has to appeal to voters in a conservative district, just like other Democrats running in states or congressional districts next year will have to win over conservatives and independents, too.

But the Democrats were always going to face this moment — they designed the law so all of the core pieces would go into effect in 2014, in a midterm election year. And they also needed a lot of complicated pieces to work together smoothly: health coverage for everyone who asks for it, new marketplaces of health insurance in every state, expanded Medicaid coverage for low-income people, and — of course — the hated individual mandate

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One Democratic strategist predicted that incumbents who voted for the law will raise questions about the specifics of implementation as a way to establish independence from the Obama administration. The strategist noted that the law has been unpopular since it passed, which makes it different than the war in Iraq, for which public opinion shifted from neutral in 2004 to negative in 2006.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/obamacare-democrats-2014-90780_Page4.html
 
Democrats Worry About Suffering ‘Political Price’ Of Obamacare in 2014 As They Suffered In 2010 Midterms

Quick flashback to a Washington Post report, showing that Democrats lost control of the House of Representatives because of their Obamacare vote:

A top Democrat acknowledged Thursday that President Obama’s health care bill hurt his party in 2010. And a new study suggests it cost the Democrats something pretty specific: their House majority.

“It was clearly a liability in the last election in terms of the public’s fear,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday during a briefing with reporters.

The study, by five professors from institutions across the country, looks at the health care bill alongside other contentious votes in the 111th Congress and determines that, more so than the stimulus or the cap-and-trade energy bill, it cost Democrats seats. In fact, they lost almost exactly the number of seats that decided the majority.

The study ran 10,000 simulations of a scenario in which all vulnerable Democrats voted against the health care bill and found that the rejection would have saved Democrats an average of 25 seats, which would have made the House parties close to a tie. (Republicans won 63 seats overall, but the study suggests around 25 of them would have been salvaged.)

Depending on what polls you look at, either a majority or plurality of Americans continue to be opposed to the Obamacare law Democrats passed, and suffered massive defeats for passing, in the 2010 midterm elections.

Democrats in 2013, are concerned about the “political price” they will pay in the 2014 midterms due to the roll-out of Obamacare and the continued unpopularity of the healthcare law Democrats and Obama forced on Americans.

Democrats in both houses of Congress said some members of their party were getting nervous that they could pay a political price if the rollout of the law was messy or if premiums went up significantly.

President Obama’s new chief of staff, Denis R. McDonough, fielded questions on the issue for more than an hour at a lunch with Democratic senators.

Senator Jeanne Shaheen, Democrat of New Hampshire, who is up for re-election next year, said, “We are hearing from a lot of small businesses in New Hampshire that do not know how to comply with the law.”

In addition, Mrs. Shaheen said, “restaurants that employ people for about 30 hours a week are trying to figure out whether it would be in their interest to reduce the hours” of those workers, so the restaurants could avoid the law’s requirement to offer health coverage to full-time employees.

The White House officials “acknowledged that these are real concerns, and that we’ve got to do more to address them,” Mrs. Shaheen said.

Senator Tom Harkin, Democrat of Iowa and chairman of the appropriations subcommittee on health care, said he was extremely upset with Mr. Obama’s decision to take money from public health prevention programs and use it to publicize the new law, which creates insurance marketpla es in every state.

“I am greatly disappointed — beyond upset — that the administration chose to help pay for the Affordable Care Act in fiscal year 2013 by raiding the Public Health and Prevention Fund,” Mr. Harkin said.

Democrats are right to be worried because as their votes for Obamacare, against the will of the majority of Americans, cost them the House in 2010, it could very well cost them control of the Senate in 2014.

Out of the 21 Democratic Senate seats that are on the ballot in the 2014 midterm elections, 14 of them voted for Obamacare in 2009 (Roll call here), excluding those retiring.

Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) and Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), both quoted above expressing concerns, voted for Obamacare as well.

The others are Mark Begich (D-AK), Mark Pryor (D-AR), Mark Udall (D-CO), Richard Durbin (D-IL), Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Al Franken (D-Minn), Tom Udall (D-NM), Kay Hagan (D-NC), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Jack Reed (D-RI), Tim Johnson (D-SD), and Mark Warner (D-VA).

If the GOP leadership is smart, with every new study showing that health claims will spike an average 32% under ObamaCare, with some states seeing claims rise as much as 80%, they will hammer home the point that the Democratic Senators listed above, all on the 2014 midterm ballot, voted for it.

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http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-co...s-they-suffered-in-2010-midterms-2628754.html
 
You haven't even touched on the massive tax increases that are coming and in ways typical democrat supporters aren't expecting. What is really funny is that the left is trying to pin Baucus's sudden retirement plans on the gun control debate when any thinking person knows that he is getting out so he doesn't have to face the voters over his role in the Obamacare debacle.

The left thought that all they had to do was force it through and people would just love it later. That isn't panning out. Now to be fair to Obama, he never planned on the bill working. It was specifically designed to crash the healthcare system once and for all so people would be left begging for single payor which is the lefts ultimate goal.

We will see if their master plan pans out
 
see we should have done the public option.


How would the republicans fix it?


they merely run arround and say let people die.

hell they appluald people dying on national TV.


We would not have this complicated a bill IF the republicans had not tried to fight allowing more people to have healthcare.



Obamacare has ALREADY helped millions.



Now its time to have the republicans act like actual human beings and help fix the system in the ways it really needs to be fixed.

They wont help fix it.

they will wallow in any mysery that they can eeeek out of the ruff edges and drawbacks of a plan they fought to make ruff edged.



Just think of what this country could look like if republicans were as commited to fixing things and making the lives of Americans actually better like the dems are instead of being completely comsumed with making sure Our First black president is unable to lead this country like the people picked him to do.



90% of Americans want gun background checks and the republican party voted against that just to hate on obama.


we are dealing with a party gone insane that tries to distroy anything good for the people becuase their hate of this president is more important than this country to them.


They voted against their OWN written and sponsered bills folks, they voted against 90% of the American people for fucks sake.


They annouced that distroying the Obama presidency was more important than ANYTHING else right after he was elected by the people.



This bill needs fixing.

EVERYTHING man does that is this MASSIVE needs adjusting in implementation.



Now the REAL question is will you republicans HELP fix it because you care about the American people OR will you continue to sabatoge everything in this country so you can beat off to the thought of Obama sitting in the white house with his head in his hand?


what party is it you choose to be?
 
“Even if we do everything perfectly, there'll still be, you know, glitches and bumps. … And that's pretty much true of every government program that's ever been set up.”

I never believed BAC before, but there it is in black and white.....Obama DOES sound just like a Republican......
 
see we should have done the public option.


How would the republicans fix it?


they merely run arround and say let people die.

hell they appluald people dying on national TV.


We would not have this complicated a bill IF the republicans had not tried to fight allowing more people to have healthcare.



Obamacare has ALREADY helped millions.



Now its time to have the republicans act like actual human beings and help fix the system in the ways it really needs to be fixed.

They wont help fix it.

they will wallow in any mysery that they can eeeek out of the ruff edges and drawbacks of a plan they fought to make ruff edged.



Just think of what this country could look like if republicans were as commited to fixing things and making the lives of Americans actually better like the dems are instead of being completely comsumed with making sure Our First black president is unable to lead this country like the people picked him to do.



90% of Americans want gun background checks and the republican party voted against that just to hate on obama.


we are dealing with a party gone insane that tries to distroy anything good for the people becuase their hate of this president is more important than this country to them.


They voted against their OWN written and sponsered bills folks, they voted against 90% of the American people for fucks sake.


They annouced that distroying the Obama presidency was more important than ANYTHING else right after he was elected by the people.



This bill needs fixing.

EVERYTHING man does that is this MASSIVE needs adjusting in implementation.



Now the REAL question is will you republicans HELP fix it because you care about the American people OR will you continue to sabatoge everything in this country so you can beat off to the thought of Obama sitting in the white house with his head in his hand?


what party is it you choose to be?

How do you put Obamacare on the republicans when NONE of them voted for it?

America would have had a better healthcare plan if DEMOCRATS had elected a progressive. They didn't .. they elected a corporatist.

America would have had a better healthcare plan if DEMOCRATS had the slightest semblance of courage. They don't .. they let Obama off the hook on EVERYTHING.

DEMOCRATS didn't have the political courage to stand up and fight Medicare-for-All or any form of SP. Never fought for it .. but you blame republicans for it not being there.

Even now with the failure of Obamacare staring the nation in the face, you're still trying to blame republicans .. not criticizing Obama.

Obamacare is a massive cluster-fuck of a bill that doesn't even address COSTS .. which was a MAJOR reason for the need for health care reform in the first place.

At what point do DEMOCRATS put the needs of the country before Obama?
 
Desh, however, still sounds like a Democrat.......lying her ass off for political gain...



Obama care starts next year.....it hasn't done anything "already"......




yes it has and its been effecting millions.


Your kid can stay on your insurance until 26.


they cant kick you off for getting sick
 
Reid: More funding needed to prevent ObamaCare from becoming 'train wreck'

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says he shares colleagues’ concerns that the Affordable Care Act could become a “train wreck” if it’s not implemented properly.

Reid warned that people will not be able to choose health insurance plans on government health exchanges if federal authorities lack the resources to set them up and educate the public.

“Max said unless we implement this properly it’s going to be a train wreck and I agree with him,” Reid said, echoing a warning delivered last month by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.).

Reid warned the federal government is not spending enough money to implement the law because of Republican opposition to ObamaCare.

“Here’s what we have now, we have the menu but we don’t have any way to get to the menu,” Reid said.

FULL STOP

WHAT? We don't have anyway to get to the menu?????? You mean they didn't think about this BEFORE they signed the bill into law?

You mean they didn't consider that they would have to go back to republicans to get this clusterfuck properly funded? :whoa:

.. continue ..

The shortage of funding to implement the law has forced President Obama to shift funds from other parts of the law.

“The president is taking money, I wish we had the money just to do this on its own but he’s agreed, he’s determined he’s going to take money from some of the other things that he feels are less important in the healthcare bill and put it on letting you and others know what’s in the bill,” Reid told a caller to the show.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...law-from-becoming-a-train-wreck#ixzz2S8tG8u3v

.. amazing
 
Your kid can stay on your insurance until 26.


they cant kick you off for getting sick

those were the things both parties agreed on.....that could have been in place in January of 2009 of Obama hadn't pressed for all the stupid shit even his own party wouldn't let happen until the next administration, just in case they needed time to bail out..........
 
WHAT? We don't have anyway to get to the menu?????? You mean they didn't think about this BEFORE they signed the bill into law?
they didn't even read it before they signed it into law....

You mean they didn't consider that they would have to go back to republicans to get this clusterfuck properly funded? :whoa:
they thought it was going to be free.....
 
Time: Obamacare Incompetence
Joe Klein

Let me try to understand this: the key incentive for small businesses to support Obamacare was that they would be able to shop for the best deals in health care superstores — called exchanges. The Administration has had three years to set up these exchanges. It has failed to do so.

This is a really bad sign. There will be those who argue that it’s not the Administration’s fault. It’s the fault of the 33 states that have refused to set up their own exchanges. Nonsense. Where was the contingency planning? There certainly are models, after all — the federal government’s own health-benefits plan (FEHBP) operates markets that exist in all 50 states. So does Medicare Advantage. But now, the Obama Administration has announced that it won’t have the exchanges ready in time, that small businesses will be offered one choice for the time being — for a year, at least. No doubt, small-business owners will be skeptical of the Obama Administration’s belief in the efficacy of the market system to produce lower prices through competition. That was supposed to be the point of this plan.

Certainly, the Republicans who have stood in the way of these exchanges — their own idea, by the way, born in the conservative Heritage Foundation — deserve a great deal of “credit” for the debacle. But we are now seeing weekly examples of this Administration’s inability to govern. Just a few weeks ago, I reported on the failure of the Department of Defense and Veterans Affairs to come up with a unified electronic health care records system. There has also been the studied inattention to the myriad ineffective job-training programs scattered through the bureaucracy. There have been the oblique and belated efforts to reform Head Start, a $7 billion program that a study conducted by its own bureaucracy — the Department of Health and Human Services — has found nearly worthless. The list is endless.

Yes, the President has faced a terrible economic crisis — and he has done well to limit the damage. He has also succeeded in avoiding disasters overseas. But, as a Democrat — as someone who believes in activist government — he has a vested interest in seeing that federal programs actually work efficiently. I don’t see much evidence that this is anywhere near the top of his priorities.

One thing is clear: Obamacare will fail if he doesn’t start paying more attention to the details of implementation, if he doesn’t start demanding action. And, in a larger sense, the notion of activist government will be in peril — despite the demographics flowing the Democrats’ way — if institutions like the VA and Obamacare don’t deliver the goods. Sooner or later, the Republican Party may come to understand that its best argument isn’t about tearing down the government we have, but making it run more efficiently.

Sooner or later, the Democrats may come to understand that making it run efficiently is the prerequisite for maintaining power
http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/02/obamacare-incompetence/#ixzz2S9uUrgf7

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