How To Buy A Gun Anonymously

[SmarterthanYou]

Your right to not get hit in the nose outweighs my right to swing my arms anywhere I choose.

you said two posts ago that you do not have the right to swing your arms anywhere you choose, so how do you have it now?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Yeah, but buying drugs is illegal and when you do it you are engaging in criminal activity (in most cases). As far as I know, you can legally purchase a gun anonymously.

guns are legal, are they not?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

This is the weakest argument ever. The fact that you can use it to argue against pretty much any criminal law ever should tell you something.

Murders won't abide murder laws so no sense making murder illegal!

HUGE false equivalency!!!!!!! laws against murder provide punishment for actual harm done to others. Laws mandating background checks punish acts which no harm to another is committed, only the potential harm.

 

[Bonestorm]

guns are legal, are they not?

Yes, guns are legal. Possession and ownership of them is not always legal, though.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Yes, guns are legal. Possession and ownership of them is not always legal, though.

shall not be infringed does not mean only a select few.

 

[Bonestorm]

HUGE false equivalency!!!!!!! laws against murder provide punishment for actual harm done to others. Laws mandating background checks punish acts which no harm to another is committed, only the potential harm.

I'm not making any equivalency at all. I'm pointing out the weakness of the argument that more criminal laws should not be enacted because criminals will not follow them is a dumbshit argument applicable to any criminal law enacted anywhere ever.

 

[Bonestorm]

shall not be infringed does not mean only a select few.

Your absolutist position is puerile.

 

[Howey]

shall not be infringed does not mean only a select few.

What about felons?


Like you.

 

[Jarod]

you said two posts ago that you do not have the right to swing your arms anywhere you choose, so how do you have it now?

Semantics.... I have the right up in to the point where it hits your nose.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I'm not making any equivalency at all. I'm pointing out the weakness of the argument that more criminal laws should not be enacted because criminals will not follow them is a dumbshit argument applicable to any criminal law enacted anywhere ever.

it's called prior restraint. maybe you should tell the courts that it's a bullshit argument.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Your absolutist position is puerile.

yet it is still the correct position.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What about felons?

once they have served their imposed time of sentence, ALL their rights should be restored. If a convicted/released felon cannot be trusted in public with a weapon, they can't be trusted in public.

Like you.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Semantics.... I have the right up in to the point where it hits your nose.

so do you or do you not have the right to hit me in the nose?

 

[Jarod]

The right to bear arms has never been absolute...

Felons cannot legally bear arms.
You are not allowed to take arms onto an airplane.
Many colonial towns required that they be kept in a public armory, not your home.
You cannot legally own a nuclear arm.
I could go on and on. Calling this right absolute illistrates an ignorance of the law in our nation and an ignorance of history and an ignorance of reality.

 

[Jarod]

so do you or do you not have the right to hit me in the nose?

I have the right to swing my arms, You have a right not to be hit in the nose. At some point those two rights conflict, generally that would mean that my right to swing my arms would be limited.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

The right to bear arms has never been absolute...

wrong

Felons cannot legally bear arms.

they could until congress decided that they couldn't.

You are not allowed to take arms onto an airplane.

they could until congress decided that they couldn't.

Many colonial towns required that they be kept in a public armory, not your home.

there was NEVER a law that told citizens they could NEVER have a single firearm in their home.

You cannot legally own a nuclear arm.

false equivalency

I could go on and on. Calling this right absolute illistrates an ignorance of the law in our nation and an ignorance of history and an ignorance of reality.

you've been consistently shown that you don't know what you're talking about, so again this is your ignorance, not mine.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I have the right to swing my arms, You have a right not to be hit in the nose. At some point those two rights conflict, generally that would mean that my right to swing my arms would be limited.

that's a ridiculous argument unworthy of pursuing. you're simply wrong.

 

[Jarod]

that's a ridiculous argument unworthy of pursuing. you're simply wrong.

no, its simply true.

 

[Bonestorm]

it's called prior restraint. maybe you should tell the courts that it's a bullshit argument.

I don't know what "it's" refers to. I'm also surprised that what the Courts say matters to you at all?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I don't know what "it's" refers to. I'm also surprised that what the Courts say matters to you at all?

on a very rare occasion the courts will get something right. usually, they just decide on less constitution. and 'it's' refers to laws that restrict freedom whose actions cause no harm to anyone.