2014 - the Republicans will keep the House, gain the Senate -- No Doubt

blackascoal

The Force is With Me
I know that democrats don't see this coming .. but those of us with our eyes open do.

The 2014 midterms are going to be disastrous for democrats, as were the 2010 midterms. I have no doubt that republicans will keep the House and pick up the seats they need to win the Senate.

A republican House and Senate, and a lame duck democratic president that commands little respect.

Cuts in Social Security and Medicare, a failed foreign policy, and the coming nightmare of Obamacare may make Hillary Clinton think twice before trying to follow Obama's act.

Democrats are headed for a well-deserved ass kicking.
 
I know that democrats don't see this coming .. but those of us with our eyes open do.

The 2014 midterms are going to be disastrous for democrats, as were the 2010 midterms. I have no doubt that republicans will keep the House and pick up the seats they need to win the Senate.

A republican House and Senate, and a lame duck democratic president that commands little respect.

Cuts in Social Security and Medicare, a failed foreign policy, and the coming nightmare of Obamacare may make Hillary Clinton think twice before trying to follow Obama's act.

Democrats are headed for a well-deserved ass kicking.

You have some points, especally regarding Social Security and Medicare. Failed forign policy? Not from my perspective.

I also think this just might play well into Clinton's hands.... She left the administration, she can say she was always better than Obama and that the Republicans are extreem, if they controll Congress she can blame them for anything bad. She can run against both the Congress and Obama, instead of running against Jeb Bush.
 
The President's party losing seats in Congress is what typically happens. It would be out of the ordinary for it not to happen.
 
Plus in his late budget proposal...

Obama’s proposing a $452 million cut to the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, the program that helps needy families heat and cool their homes. He also wants to cut $472 million, compared to his last budget, for EPA's state revolving loan funds for wastewater and drinking water.

There ya go Dems... Obama hates the poor... right?

Obama wants the poor to freeze to death in the winter... right?

Obama wants them to die of heat exhaustion in the summer... right?
 
I know that democrats don't see this coming .. but those of us with our eyes open do.

The 2014 midterms are going to be disastrous for democrats, as were the 2010 midterms. I have no doubt that republicans will keep the House and pick up the seats they need to win the Senate.

A republican House and Senate, and a lame duck democratic president that commands little respect.

Cuts in Social Security and Medicare, a failed foreign policy, and the coming nightmare of Obamacare may make Hillary Clinton think twice before trying to follow Obama's act.

Democrats are headed for a well-deserved ass kicking.
:rolleyes:
 
I know that democrats don't see this coming .. but those of us with our eyes open do.

The 2014 midterms are going to be disastrous for democrats, as were the 2010 midterms. I have no doubt that republicans will keep the House and pick up the seats they need to win the Senate.

A republican House and Senate, and a lame duck democratic president that commands little respect.

Cuts in Social Security and Medicare, a failed foreign policy, and the coming nightmare of Obamacare may make Hillary Clinton think twice before trying to follow Obama's act.

Democrats are headed for a well-deserved ass kicking.
Liberals are such idiots.
 
Plus in his late budget proposal...



There ya go Dems... Obama hates the poor... right?

Obama wants the poor to freeze to death in the winter... right?

Obama wants them to die of heat exhaustion in the summer... right?


Not hearing any arguments against you here, SF. The Obama budget is the stupidest fucking thing ever. Like, ever ever. I think the plan was to keep the streak alive for budgets no one really supports.
 
I know that democrats don't see this coming .. but those of us with our eyes open do.

The 2014 midterms are going to be disastrous for democrats, as were the 2010 midterms. I have no doubt that republicans will keep the House and pick up the seats they need to win the Senate.

A republican House and Senate, and a lame duck democratic president that commands little respect.

Cuts in Social Security and Medicare, a failed foreign policy, and the coming nightmare of Obamacare may make Hillary Clinton think twice before trying to follow Obama's act.

Democrats are headed for a well-deserved ass kicking.
I think you made a similiar prediction for 2012. A lot can happen between now and then. Here's what I know for certain, urban areas will remain predominantly Democrat and rural areas will remain predominantly Republican. Since most of the country has been gerry mandered to give rural voters grossly disproportionate influence, they may make some gains in the house. Since more Democratic than Republican seats are up for election in 2014 it stands to reason that Dems are at more risk of losing seats than Republicans. Having said that I don't see major change occuring based on current events.
 
Plus in his late budget proposal...



There ya go Dems... Obama hates the poor... right?

Obama wants the poor to freeze to death in the winter... right?

Obama wants them to die of heat exhaustion in the summer... right?
Agreed....I mean....what the fuck was he thinking? It not like the actual policy is important but that he's hell bent to bend over and kiss Republicans asses and compromise from a position of strength that's important. It makes no freaking sense and is politically stupid.
 
Not hearing any arguments against you here, SF. The Obama budget is the stupidest fucking thing ever. Like, ever ever. I think the plan was to keep the streak alive for budgets no one really supports.
It's like Obama is saying "I showed you I can beat your ass in an election and now I'm determined to show you that I can kiss your asses." I just don't get it. This is Carteresque niavette.
 
You have some points, especally regarding Social Security and Medicare. Failed forign policy? Not from my perspective.

I also think this just might play well into Clinton's hands.... She left the administration, she can say she was always better than Obama and that the Republicans are extreem, if they controll Congress she can blame them for anything bad. She can run against both the Congress and Obama, instead of running against Jeb Bush.

Not far off the mark in my opinion.

Democrats will once again be looking for a savior .. and its name will be Hillary Clinton. Almost a good a story line as that of the current savior.

Problem is though .. you'll be duped again.

It's not about democrat or republican. They all take their marching orders from the corporate will. The only real difference between them are social issues .. which the plutocracy that owns this country doesn't really care about. They don't care about gay marriage .. some of them are gay.

Obama conducts the foreign policy of George Bush on steroids. Respectfully brother, how could you say that policy isn't failed when you thought it failed when Bush was doing it? Same foreign policy.

The ONLY profit I get from speaking the truth about Obama is the commitment to my principles, values, and character.

Because democrats never had the courage to stand on principle or to stand up to Obama .. what's coming will be well-deserved.
 
The President's party losing seats in Congress is what typically happens. It would be out of the ordinary for it not to happen.

That's what you said the last midterms that resulted in one of the greatest takeovers of the House in American history.

Excuses aside .. a republican House and Senate are the result.
 
Agreed....I mean....what the fuck was he thinking? It not like the actual policy is important but that he's hell bent to bend over and kiss Republicans asses and compromise from a position of strength that's important. It makes no freaking sense and is politically stupid.

Obama is a con man at best and an ass at worst, and he gets exactly what he wants....you know it sucks so you blame the Republicans knowing they that have no power......your pinheads
have had control of the government since 2006 either as majority of the entire congress or as one house of congress and the presidency.....
No wonder it makes no sense to you, you have your head either buried in the sand or firmly up you ass
and all you can parrot is, "its Bushs fault" or "its the Republicans fault".
 
That's what you said the last midterms that resulted in one of the greatest takeovers of the House in American history.

I said it in 2010 and I'm saying now time becuase it's true. I didn't say it in 2012 because it wasn't a midterm, but in 2012 the Democrats gained seats in both chambers.

Excuses aside .. a republican House and Senate are the result.

A Republican House is to be expected. And Republican gains in the Senate is to be expected as well based on past results in mid-terms and the fact that 21 of the 35 seats up for election are held be Democrats. These are just the facts, BAC.
 
I think you made a similiar prediction for 2012. A lot can happen between now and then. Here's what I know for certain, urban areas will remain predominantly Democrat and rural areas will remain predominantly Republican. Since most of the country has been gerry mandered to give rural voters grossly disproportionate influence, they may make some gains in the house. Since more Democratic than Republican seats are up for election in 2014 it stands to reason that Dems are at more risk of losing seats than Republicans. Having said that I don't see major change occuring based on current events.

My prediction for 2012 was that Obama would be re-elected .. and unlike many democrats who were frightened by his first debate performance .. I knew he would still win. It was easy. The only relevant question to ask was which of the two puppets (Obama v Romney) would best serve the interests of the puppetmasters. Hands down that would be Obama.

I also predicted the 2010 midterms long before they happened .. which was also quite easy.

I also said at the time that the Tea Party would be Obama's best weapon and get him re-elected.

It's not rocket science.

You failed to factor in the impact cuts to SS and Medicare will have on the democratic base .. which is finally waking up to discover they've been all excited about a con man. Nothing as advertised.

You failed to factor in the impact of Obamacare in your analysis ..

Obamacare's Unpopularity Grows in New Poll
excerpt --

While some recent polls had indicated a lowering of opposition to President Obama's health care law -- in all likelihood, a diminishing of election focused opinion -- a poll released by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Harvard School of Public Health concludes otherwise.

The Kaiser/Harvard survey found that the law is opposed by 50% of Americans, a sharp increase from December's statistics. The rise was mostly driven by an increase in opposition from the politically significant independent voters -- the survey found 57% of independents opposed the law, up from 41 percent last month.

Only 19% of Americans and 14% of independent voters describe themselves as "Very Favorable" of the law, while 34% of Americans and 40% of independents say they have a "Very Unfavorable" view of it. A full 47% of independents support repeal of the law, with or without a replacement.
http://heartland.org/policy-documents/obamacares-unpopularity-grows-new-poll[/QUOTE]

You failed to factor in the impact that OBAMA'S sequester is having on Americans.

Federal Workers Angry: 'Shameful Abandonment' Of Campaign Pledge
Obama Budget Plan Would Hike Employee Contributions, Reduce Federal Worker Pension Payouts

"Our folks are furloughed, frozen and fed up," Klement told HuffPost. "Our folks are sick of this. Enough is enough."

In a statement Wednesday, the American Federation of Government Employees, the largest federal worker union, called the Obama budget "a shameful abandonment" of a campaign pledge to protect the middle class.

"The administration seems determined to contribute to a worsening of living standards for federal workers, disabled veterans, and the elderly," said J. David Cox, the union's president.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/10/obama-budget-pensions_n_3054071.html?1365618982

Did I mention that neither republicans nor even Paul Ryan want to cut Social Security .. but Obama does?

Democrats deserve what's coming because they lack the courage to lead .. not because this is just cyclical.
 
Let me be perfectly honest here...and I'm speaking as probably the most progressive liberal on this forum.

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT OBAMA TO DO???

Here's how all this goes down...

1. Republicans demanded that President Obama accept Social Security cuts through chained-CPI.

2. Obama, eager to reach a compromise, grudgingly agreed and offered Republicans what they asked for.

3. Republicans then attacked Obama for proposing the policy they demanded.

It's not just this, it's everything legitimate before Congress since 2009. There's only two choices now.

1. Obama can stick to his principles and nothing will get done. No budget will pass and everyone one of you will bitch and blame either him or the republicans.

2. Obama can try to compromise with the republicans and get something done.

We have obstructionism at every bend, we have abuse of the filibuster system, we have gerrymandering, we have voter disenfranchisement, we have judicial holds, we have no government. It's not Obama's fault.
 
I said it in 2010 and I'm saying now time becuase it's true. I didn't say it in 2012 because it wasn't a midterm, but in 2012 the Democrats gained seats in both chambers.

A Republican House is to be expected. And Republican gains in the Senate is to be expected as well based on past results in mid-terms and the fact that 21 of the 35 seats up for election are held be Democrats. These are just the facts, BAC.

Cool .. then you agree with me for different reasons.
 
Let me be perfectly honest here...and I'm speaking as probably the most progressive liberal on this forum.

Here's how all this goes down...

1. Republicans demanded that President Obama accept Social Security cuts through chained-CPI.

2. Obama, eager to reach a compromise, grudgingly agreed and offered Republicans what they asked for.

3. Republicans then attacked Obama for proposing the policy they demanded.

It's not just this, it's everything legitimate before Congress since 2009. There's only two choices now.

1. Obama can stick to his principles and nothing will get done. No budget will pass and everyone one of you will bitch and blame either him or the republicans.

2. Obama can try to compromise with the republicans and get something done.

We have obstructionism at every bend, we have abuse of the filibuster system, we have gerrymandering, we have voter disenfranchisement, we have judicial holds, we have no government. It's not Obama's fault.

First, you may be the most progressive 'liberal' on this board, but you aren't the most progressive poster on this board. I'm not a liberal.

More importantly .. let me demonstrate how easy this is ..

Bernie Sanders: Obama Owns Chained CPI
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...ama-budget_n_3046023.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Paul Ryan Not Asking For Social Security Cuts, Why Is Obama Insisting On Them?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...-Security-Cuts-Why-Is-Obama-Insisting-On-Them

How Obama's Plan For Chained CPI Is Both A Stealth Tax On The Middle Class And A Cut In Benefits For Grandma
http://www.businessinsider.com/obam...social-security-benefits-2013-4#ixzz2QAuRg2iv

Respectfully good brother, if you don't know that chained-CPI is OBAMA'S idea .. then I'm not sure you have enough information to even be having this conversation.

No offense intended.
 
Let me be perfectly honest here...and I'm speaking as probably the most progressive liberal on this forum.

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT OBAMA TO DO???

Here's how all this goes down...

1. Republicans demanded that President Obama accept Social Security cuts through chained-CPI.

2. Obama, eager to reach a compromise, grudgingly agreed and offered Republicans what they asked for.

3. Republicans then attacked Obama for proposing the policy they demanded.

It's not just this, it's everything legitimate before Congress since 2009. There's only two choices now.

1. Obama can stick to his principles and nothing will get done. No budget will pass and everyone one of you will bitch and blame either him or the republicans.

2. Obama can try to compromise with the republicans and get something done.

We have obstructionism at every bend, we have abuse of the filibuster system, we have gerrymandering, we have voter disenfranchisement, we have judicial holds, we have no government. It's not Obama's fault.



I'd agree with you if I thought that this budget would help get anything worthwhile done, but it won't becuase what it proposes is not worthwhile. Compromise for the sake of compromise, as opposed to compromise to achieve something beneficial and good, is not worth doing.
 
Let me be perfectly honest here...and I'm speaking as probably the most progressive liberal on this forum.

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT OBAMA TO DO???

Here's how all this goes down...

1. Republicans demanded that President Obama accept Social Security cuts through chained-CPI.

2. Obama, eager to reach a compromise, grudgingly agreed and offered Republicans what they asked for.

3. Republicans then attacked Obama for proposing the policy they demanded.

It's not just this, it's everything legitimate before Congress since 2009. There's only two choices now.

1. Obama can stick to his principles and nothing will get done. No budget will pass and everyone one of you will bitch and blame either him or the republicans.

2. Obama can try to compromise with the republicans and get something done.

We have obstructionism at every bend, we have abuse of the filibuster system, we have gerrymandering, we have voter disenfranchisement, we have judicial holds, we have no government. It's not Obama's fault.
So he's supposed to sell us out so that he can compromise on a deal that sucks to begin with? Howey! The President won the election, he's supposed to defend our position, we gave him a mandate to do so. He's not the one that needs to compromise. He's in the position of strength. Let the other side compromise and if they don't, let them pay the price at the polls.

It's incomprehensible that he would betray those whom elected him just so he could give our SS benefits away just to show Repubs that he can compromise on a nonbinding document! It's STUPID!
 
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