What that crazy moonbat Palin is saying today!

[Phantasmal]

I get up early and wake the kids, depending on our schedule, my wife or I make breakfast. The nanny arrives around 8 and assists us whilst we get the kids dressed and the older two ready for school. I take them to school and go to work. My wife works the remainder of the morning at her home based business while the nanny feeds the two year old and plays with her. Then the 2 year old takes a nap, the nanny cleans up and does laundry. My wife generally then wakes the two year old and takes her to pick up the 5 year old from pre-school. (Pre-School where other members of the village have been teaching her and where she has been socializing with other neighborhood kids.) Then my wife usually does an activity with the younger two kids until I pick up the 7 year old from 1st Grade. (First Grade where other members of the village have been teaching my son and where he has been exposed to a broader horizion than could be provided simply by the paradim of just our family) At that time, usually my sister brings her 9 year old to our house and the boys do homework together.

The Nanny has finally organized the house and set things up for the evening and the comming day. My wife will make dinner, or we will go out, where another member of the village will feed us at a restaurant. Sometimes my daughter will play for a while at the neighbors house or the neighbor girl will come to our house. After dinner we relax and play with the children until bed time.

If someone gets ill or has a cold or if I have a trial, we have a whole support system that will fill in and assist. Today my wife and I both have business lunches and so my wife's mother is going to pick our daughter up.

Tonight is my wife and my's 8th anniversuary so the neighbor will be taking the kids while we go our for dinner and a little celebration....


THANK GOD FOR MY VILLAGE, I am happier and my kids are happier, healthier and safer.

I am privileged to watch my granddaughters while their parents work. I am part of our village. The teacher at school has our oldest grand child, she is a part of our village. We have many friends with young children, they are part of our village.

I understand the "community" concept. No one is an island.

My paranoid friend also believes it is a Socialist conspiracy to take the "children". I could not comment on his post on fb, I was laughing too hard.

 

[Phantasmal]

Yeah, I know, I know, that crazy woman from Wasilla is a nutbagger! How can anyone take such a wacko seriously?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...says-children-belong-communities-parents.html

'Unflippingbelievable': Sarah Palin slams TV news promo in which MSNBC anchor says children 'belong to whole communities,' not to their parents

An MSNBC news anchor has ignited controversy with a TV ad promoting the network, in which she says children belong to communities, not to their parents.
Melissa Harris-Perry, host of a Sunday morning MSNBC show that bears her name, cut the promo spot to promote her program. And conservative pundits Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are seeing red.
'We have never invested as much in public education as we should have,' Harris-Perry says in the ad, 'because we've always had kind of a private notion of children: "Your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility." We haven't had a very collective notion of "these are our children."'
'So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.'

'Once it's everybody's responsibility, and not just the household's, then we start making better investments,' Harris-Perry adds, in a subtle call for more government spending on education programs.
Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, vented her outrage on Twitter.

'Apparently MSNBC doesn't think your children belong to you,' she tweeted. 'Unflippingbelievable.'
The theme of collective child-rearing first most famously caused trouble for American liberals when Hillary Clinton, then the first lady, made a similar argument in her book titled It Takes A Village.
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So... Caring and thoughtful liberals like Harris-Perry are perfectly reasonable and rational when they infer our children don't belong to us, and Palin is the insane wacko, who is out of touch with mainstream. Understand?

Sarah sold her family to the highest bidder! She welcomed the world into her home. I don't think she has much room to critcize anyone.

 

[Phantasmal]

During the short time I lived in a city, when I was in 2nd grade I walked about 4 or 5 blocks to school. One day while walking home I found a book of matches. I tried one and it lit. I walked a little further and noticed that the grass in the ditch was high enough to burn so I tried to set it on fire. While working diligently, a car stopped and asked me what I was doing. I knew I had done something wrong, gave the guy the matches and proceeded to walk home. The man asked for my address and I told him (Mom diligently drove certain things into my head so that I still remember our address and phone numbers where ever we lived even today), stupidly thinking all the while, "I'm glad he didn't ask for my phone number." I walk on home, thinking I had gotten by with trying to do something but when I got there, mom was waiting on the porch with a section of Hot Wheel track. I never tried to light anything on fire like that again. That is my impression of "it takes a village." That was 1973 ... I'm not so sure it would work today but it did then.

Exactly, thanks.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

social conservatives have been trying to "prove liberals wrong" in the last 5-6 elections and they keep getting their asses handed to them. The notorious stubbornness of these type of conservatives will be their ultimate downfall.

No, the problem social conservatives have had the past 2 presidential elections is, they haven't had a true social conservative to vote for. They had to settle for someone who was less than what they wanted, and it resulted in the GOP losing both times. It has nothing to do with "proving liberals wrong" and everything to do with liberals ARE wrong. Liberals have been predicting their downfall for hundreds of years, but somehow, there still manages to be a predominate segment of society who are socially conservative. I don't see that dynamic changing.

What I DO see changing, is mainstream America's attitude toward extremism. This is why libertarians are doing so well lately, they tend to be less extreme left or right, and this appeals to many people. This has also caused a false thinking on part of the establishment GOP, that they need to 'moderate' their positions and 'reach out' to the various special interest groups. Their mistake has been in abandoning social conservatism.

When you objectively analyze the results of presidential elections of the past 80 years or so, you will find, social conservatives almost always win. Even people who aren't really social conservatives, will pretend to be... like Bill Clinton, being seen carrying his Bible on Sunday, quite often during his darker days. Al Gore, singing in the black church choir while he campaigned. Jimmy Carter was about as socially conservative as a democrat could get. Ronald Reagan overcame the stigma of being a Hollywood actor and Californian, to rally social conservatives with a strong social conservative message. George W. was stronger with social conservatives than his dad, but both of them did well among social conservatives, because they played to social conservatives.

So you can fool yourself into thinking whatever you want, the fact remains, a very large segment of the country is clearly social conservative, and will vote accordingly. They don't show up here at JPP to voice their views, they don't have to. They are not on a crusade to convert you to a Christian, they are not secretly planning to overthrow the government and install a theocracy, and there is no presence of social conservative political warriors, because they don't need to brainwash and recruit like the left. This void in presence here, makes you think these people are irrelevant and insignificant, but that's because you are a myopic moron who lives in his own little ego-twisted online world.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Sarah sold her family to the highest bidder! She welcomed the world into her home. I don't think she has much room to critcize anyone.

LOL... Sold her family to the highest bidder? WTF? ...over-dramatic much?

Wow, she welcomed the world into her home.... what a total bitch!

You're right, people who are on television should keep their mouth's shut and not share their opinions.
They have no room to criticise.

 

[Timshel]

And Glenn Beck, and literally millions and millions of Americans who are shocked that someone on the left would even attempt to make this argument. It's not that we don't believe them, it's that we totally believe them! It's shocking that they actually reveal their truest intentions, and believe we live in a world that agrees with them. Community Parenting is about as looney and moonbat as it gets, but somehow, Sarah Palin is the one who is depicted as a wacko, because she was "mavericky" enough to Tweet, "Unflippinbelievable!"

Wait, did you not just say that her views on this were outdated?

No one is attempting to make any such argument. You guys are arguing non issues. You are overreacting and employing a strawman. I have been trolling a bit, but you really have to be quite delusional to believe that there is any support for taking children from their parents.

 

[Cancel 2016.11]

It's been very entertaining string.

 

[zappasguitar]

no, I do not have children. I've had step children. If their mother or father wasn't caring for them, I was. and hiring a babysitter is NOT copping out. that is a huge, HUGE, extremely HUGE bullshit argument.

Is the babysitter a part of the community you live in?

Well then the answer is Y-E-S...according to your own words, hiring a babysitter is a huge cop-out...unless you watched your children 24/7/365 you are jnust as guilty as Jarod.

It's hysterical to watch you trying to split hairs and delineate between the two as if they weren't exactly the same.

 

[zappasguitar]

UPDATE: Sarah Palin is still holding to the crazy wacko right-wing notion that parents are responsible for their children. She probably got this wacko idea from her Bible or something. I can't believe someone so out of touch and backward ever ran for VP, what were Republicans thinking? I know she has said some crazy shit, but this one just takes her over the edge, how can anyone take her seriously after this?

This also just in...Dixie and other hate-filled Righties CONTINUE to misrepresent what Harris-Perry said in order to slander and smear Liberals.

 

[zappasguitar]

Good post. This is the way I grew up. All adults, whether family or neighbors, kept an eye out on the kids in the neighborhood. We kids never gave it a second thought. If we acted up, we hoped nobody found out because any adult who did was a parent proxy. They couldn't lay a hand on you but they would certainly yell or tell your parents... and the parents never took your side because the adult version of the event was sacrosanct. I think the critics are making a mountain out of a molehill on this issue.

Of course they did...but according to the hate-filled Righties of today, it's outright COMMUNISM to think all adults of the communtiy should watch out for the kids in the neighborhood.

 

[zappasguitar]

??? I am confused. This is the people who chose not to try to intergrate into our culture. These usually maintain their old traditions, religions, languages. Naturally our society marginalizes them except when the media spotlights them specifically.

The Swedes, right?

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

During the short time I lived in a city, when I was in 2nd grade I walked about 4 or 5 blocks to school. One day while walking home I found a book of matches. I tried one and it lit. I walked a little further and noticed that the grass in the ditch was high enough to burn so I tried to set it on fire. While working diligently, a car stopped and asked me what I was doing. I knew I had done something wrong, gave the guy the matches and proceeded to walk home. The man asked for my address and I told him (Mom diligently drove certain things into my head so that I still remember our address and phone numbers where ever we lived even today), stupidly thinking all the while, "I'm glad he didn't ask for my phone number." I walk on home, thinking I had gotten by with trying to do something but when I got there, mom was waiting on the porch with a section of Hot Wheel track. I never tried to light anything on fire like that again. That is my impression of "it takes a village." That was 1973 ... I'm not so sure it would work today but it did then.

Not doubting your story, because I think pretty much all of us can agree, that we had some similar type experience growing up. But this has now become the "SPIN" from the left, over this controversial "flub" about community parenting. THIS is what they are talking about, you know, like it was when you were a kid... where neighbors looked out for each other's kids and stuff... THAT is what she meant! NO IT WASN'T! --NO ONE IS THAT STUPID!

If your story were to happen today, the man who obtained your address would have been picked up by the police for stalking you, he might even be charged with child molestation, if he ever physically touched you. Or he might have been dragged into civil court for violating your civil rights or theft of property. This is a result of layers upon layers of liberal left wing 'progressiveness' which we've been working on since those days of old. We don't live in that old world anymore, so save us the nostalgia.

What this is about, is liberal socialists getting their grubby little hands on the minds of children, before the parents can instill any kind of social or moral 'nonsense' in their heads. The jig is up on public education, we already know the brainwashing is happening there, and we can counter it at home. We know you've infiltrated universities, but by then, the 'kids' are already set in their views, it's hard to change them. So now you need to find a new way, and this is how you intend to do it.

 

[Phantasmal]

The Swedes, right?

I thought it was the Scottish.

 

[Phantasmal]

Not doubting your story, because I think pretty much all of us can agree, that we had some similar type experience growing up. But this has now become the "SPIN" from the left, over this controversial "flub" about community parenting. THIS is what they are talking about, you know, like it was when you were a kid... where neighbors looked out for each other's kids and stuff... THAT is what she meant! NO IT WASN'T! --NO ONE IS THAT STUPID!

If your story were to happen today, the man who obtained your address would have been picked up by the police for stalking you, he might even be charged with child molestation, if he ever physically touched you. Or he might have been dragged into civil court for violating your civil rights or theft of property. This is a result of layers upon layers of liberal left wing 'progressiveness' which we've been working on since those days of old. We don't live in that old world anymore, so save us the nostalgia.

What this is about, is liberal socialists getting their grubby little hands on the minds of children, before the parents can instill any kind of social or moral 'nonsense' in their heads. The jig is up on public education, we already know the brainwashing is happening there, and we can counter it at home. We know you've infiltrated universities, but by then, the 'kids' are already set in their views, it's hard to change them. So now you need to find a new way, and this is how you intend to do it.

I am so grateful I don't live inside your head, what a dismal, paranoid place!

 

[zappasguitar]

Wait, did you not just say that her views on this were outdated?

No one is attempting to make any such argument. You guys are arguing non issues. You are overreacting and employing a strawman. I have been trolling a bit, but you really have to be quite delusional to believe that there is any support for taking children from their parents.

Of COURSE it's ridiculous, but since when has something like that slowed hateful Republicans desperate to slander Liberals any way possible?

The Poutrage over Harris-Perry's comments is just another ginned up non-issue rolled out by Tightie Rightie talking heads like Fatbaugh and Speck in order to continue to demonize Liberals.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Of course they did...but according to the hate-filled Righties of today, it's outright COMMUNISM to think all adults of the communtiy should watch out for the kids in the neighborhood.

Read my last post and go fuck yourself. This has absolutely ZERO to do with returning to a day when Ward Cleaver would send Beav to his room because his neighbor snitched him out. That is not the world the leftist liberals ever intend on returning to, and you know this, why are you trying to LIE and claim this to be the case?

This is about getting control of people's children when they are still young and impressionable, and then you can instill this sick perverted liberal socialist thinking in them, against the will of the parents. You can raise a whole generation of little militant liberal socialists, and the rest is history!

 

[Jarod]

Dixie had to bump this thread several times so he could make the false claim that we were all attacking Sara (sell your children to the highest bidder) Palin.

 

[zappasguitar]

If your story were to happen today, the man who obtained your address would have been picked up by the police for stalking you, he might even be charged with child molestation, if he ever physically touched you. Or he might have been dragged into civil court for violating your civil rights or theft of property. This is a result of layers upon layers of liberal left wing 'progressiveness' which we've been working on since those days of old. We don't live in that old world anymore, so save us the nostalgia.

Absolute, undiluted horseshit.

We just had a story on the 5 o'clock news last night about a 6 year old child who left his school grounds and proceeded to walk to his home. He was found walking along the side of the road by a good samaritan on her way home. She took the child to his house and informed the child's parents where he had been picked up.

The good samaritan was HAILED BY THE HPD AND THE BOY'S PARENTS AS A HERO!

So much for your bullshit diversion.

 

[Howey]

??? I am confused. This is the people who chose not to try to intergrate into our culture. These usually maintain their old traditions, religions, languages. Naturally our society marginalizes them except when the media spotlights them specifically.

I've got to ask you again...WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LEARNING IN SCHOOL? EXCUSE ME FOR YELLING, BUT YOU ARE ONE MOTHER FUCKING BRAIN DEAD NINCOMPOOP!

DO YOU KNOW WHY THESE IMMIGRANTS CAME TO THIS COUNTRY? THE IRISH? THE DUTCH? THE GERMANS? THE ITALIANS? THE JAPANESE? THE CHINESE? THE VIETNAMESE? THE MEXICANS? HOW ABOUT THE FUCKING INDIANS???

FOR A BETTER LIFE FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

MOTHER FUCKING DUH!

OF COURSE, MANY OF THEM WEREN'T ABLE TO ASSIMILATE INTO THE NEW CULTURE THEY'D LEFT EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE THEY LOVED IN THEIR HOMELAND FOR.

BUT THEIR CHILDREN DID. AND DO.

HERE'S A WEBPAGE FROM A FUCKING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT LISTS FAMOUS IMMIGRANTS, NOT JUST THEIR CHILDREN! WHY AREN'T YOU LEARNING THIS SHIT INSTEAD OF INFESTING A FUCKING WEBBOARD ALL DAY, YOU GODDAMN TARD!

ahahaha she was on team dinosaur 5 years ago. her beliefs are outdated, her daughter was on dancing with the stars. They had their own reality tv show. why don't we make honey boo boo our secretary of state? lmao palin is a joke.

I love you in a strictly heterosexual way, bro.

 

[Phantasmal]

Read my last post and go fuck yourself. This has absolutely ZERO to do with returning to a day when Ward Cleaver would send Beav to his room because his neighbor snitched him out. That is not the world the leftist liberals ever intend on returning to, and you know this, why are you trying to LIE and claim this to be the case?

This is about getting control of people's children when they are still young and impressionable, and then you can instill this sick perverted liberal socialist thinking in them, against the will of the parents. You can raise a whole generation of little militant liberal socialists, and the rest is history!

It is a world I still live in, my daughter lives in a cul de sac with lots of young families and they all look out for one another. I also lived and raised my children in a neighborhood where we looked out for one another and we are still friends and have get togethers where there are multiple generations!

I guess it is a case of like attracting, like.

It is a shame your neighborhood is not like ours!