Being White in Philly

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Thats the very first thing the lefties do.....call you a racist.....seldom if ever actually discuss the facts and perceptions that matter.
Truth is the last thing anyone wants to face.

You are a racist, that is the reason you are called one.

 

[christiefan915]

My name for you, Vanilla Nova.

Perfect!

 

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The example is that the theme of the article isn't about crime in the Temple neighborhood, it's about race in the Temple neighborhood.

Yes, the article is about race. Good catch. But String stated that the author tried to pretend that the crime was only a concern for white people. That is not the case. String injected that into the discussion and that is why it was rebutted.

 

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and yet people think i'm a radical when i chastise them for making this type of argument, telling them that more people will just push harder for more restrictions. 'shall make no law' was put in there for a reason, and Nutter shows why.

No people think you're radical when you tell us how you've got a million guns are are prepared to die hard when the cops come for you.

 

[Timshel]

Thanks for again proving that you see what you want to see. He doesn't pretend that crime is only a concern for white people. You injected that into what he wrote.

Where in that does he imply that crime is only white people's concern in that neighborhood. Or are your racist views coming out and you assume that 'Temple Students' = 'White people'

Show us an example of that.

The only Temple student described was his son, asshole. Fuck you!

Show you an example? Are you serious? Read the article. Did he mention one crime perpetrated on a black person or by a white person? The bias of his presentation made me think of racistx. He shows no sign of empathy of how black people are affected by crime.

According to conservatives there is no racism left to speak of and they ignore any mention of it as excuse making, but wait a minute, let's ask some white people. Oh, they have concerns, now it's a national issue. Really?



I agree with what christie said. It's largely about opportunities. One of the people interviewed mentioned having better opportunities and never having to fall lower than begging for a waiter's job. The author was somewhat critical of his perspective.

Some guy that has no understanding on the opportunities, choices and challenges of another and refuses to try to understand them can't offer much to advance an open and honest dialogue.

 

[Timshel]

Yes, the article is about race. Good catch. But String stated that the author tried to pretend that the crime was only a concern for white people. That is not the case. String injected that into the discussion and that is why it was rebutted.

You did not rebut a damn thing. Your dumbass' demands that I give you an example of how he only mentioned african american criminals victimizing whites. You have a link to the article.

 

[Timshel]

Yes, the article is about race. Good catch. But String stated that the author tried to pretend that the crime was only a concern for white people. That is not the case. String injected that into the discussion and that is why it was rebutted.

The blatantly obvious implication is that white people would have no issue with race if those n-words would just stop robbing/attacking them and/or selling drugs to their kids. Then they could go back to ignoring them and their problems.

If you are too fucking stupid to pick up on it, then there is not much I can do to spell it out for you.

 

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You did not rebut a damn thing. Your dumbass' demands that I give you an example of how he only mentioned african american criminals victimizing whites. You have a link to the article.

No, you proclaimed that the author opened up showing he only cared about crimes against white people. That was completely bogus on your part. That was what was rebutted.

He was interviewing(talking with) WHITE people you moron. You are not going to find a lot of white people that are actually black people that have been victims of crimes.

 

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The blatantly obvious implication is that white people would have no issue with race if those n-words would just stop robbing/attacking them and/or selling drugs to their kids. Then they could go back to ignoring them and their problems.

If you are too fucking stupid to pick up on it, then there is not much I can do to spell it out for you.

thanks for proving that you are nothing more than an overly emotion knee jerk reactionary who prefers injecting his own thoughts onto others rather than read what they actually write.

 

[Timshel]

thanks for proving that you are nothing more than an overly emotion knee jerk reactionary who prefers injecting his own thoughts onto others rather than read what they actually write.

I read the article and commented only on the thoughts expressed by the author. You have yet to deal with any of the points made and your only response is pathetic ad homs.

 

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I read the article and commented only on the thoughts expressed by the author. You have yet to deal with any of the points made and your only response is pathetic ad homs.

that is truly comical... I responded to your quote directly. Your response was completely unhinged, so I called you out on being overly emotional. Probably had something to do with your earlier bullshit being rebutted.

 

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The only Temple student described was his son, asshole. Fuck you!

So a father concerned about his son = he is only concerned about WHITE people? Either way you want to spin it, he didn't assume what YOU wanted to pretend he did.

But thanks for proving you are just overly emotional right now.

Show you an example? Are you serious? Read the article. Did he mention one crime perpetrated on a black person or by a white person? The bias of his presentation made me think of racistx. He shows no sign of empathy of how black people are affected by crime.

Again String... the article is about WHITE people in Philly and their perspective. White people are not actually black people and thus you are not going to hear stories about crimes on a black guy. Nor are you likely to hear one of the white people tell you about crimes they committed.

According to conservatives there is no racism left to speak of and they ignore any mention of it as excuse making, but wait a minute, let's ask some white people. Oh, they have concerns, now it's a national issue. Really?

LMAO... see, now you go to hyperbole. What conservatives have stated there is no racism to speak of? Saying it is not as prevalent as people like you proclaim it to be within conservative circles is not the same as saying it doesn't exist.

I agree with what christie said. It's largely about opportunities. One of the people interviewed mentioned having better opportunities and never having to fall lower than begging for a waiter's job. The author was somewhat critical of his perspective.

Some guy that has no understanding on the opportunities, choices and challenges of another and refuses to try to understand them can't offer much to advance an open and honest dialogue.

here is the waiter part... tell me what part you think he is being 'critical of his perspective'...

Paul is working on his Yamaha—it’s got a balky carburetor. He’s 29, a chunky, pleasant guy with a short goatee and black-frame glasses. When we met, Paul was renting a house with three buddies. He studied architecture at Temple, but he’s bounced around, rehabbing houses, waiting on tables, getting freelance design jobs here and there. It’s a tough economy for architects, though he recently latched on at a firm in the city.


The morning after he moved in three and a half years ago, Paul says, he came out to the alley, and a young black kid—12 or 13—was standing there.
“Hey, what’s up?” the kid said, like they were friends. “You go to college?”
“No, I graduated.”
“Still have some friends in college?”
“A few.”
“You want some OCs?” Oxycontin. “Your friends want some?”
Paul told him no. The kid moved on down the alley.

I ask Paul if that gave him pause, whether he thought he’d moved to the wrong neighborhood.


“No,” he says. “I got laid off in October ’08 and was out of work for six months. I had to find money—it gave me a different perspective. And it seemed this kid was just trying to make money. He was just trying to get by. I come from a different world—I don’t think I’ll ever have to sell drugs. I did have to beg for a job as a waiter at 25—that’s as low as it would go for me.”


A man of perspective, Paul, a very evenhanded guy. But that night, something dawns on me: Confronted with a drug dealer in his new neighborhood, Paul understood that the guy had to find a way to get by. That he was struggling. That he had made an economic decision. But the “guy” who wanted to sell Oxycontin to Paul was a child—one probably in seventh grade.


What’s his life like? Who’s he working for? A few weeks later, I have dinner with Paul in South Philly and ask him if he’s ever thought more about the kid who offered him Oxycontin.


“No,” Paul says. “It’s easier to put it out of your mind and not think about it. The truth is kind of a dark thing.

 

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thanks for proving that you are nothing more than an overly emotion knee jerk reactionary who prefers injecting his own thoughts onto others rather than read what they actually write.

Thats a trait so typical of the lefties.....I don't get it....if you can't refute a post, why not just stfu and let it go.....

If you say black, they will insist you meant white or implied it....and they all do it.....

anyway...his reply to your question ought to be interesting if its actually on topic.....

 

[Taichiliberal]

There was an article in Philadlephia Magazine entitled 'Being White in Philly'. The Mayor of Philadelphia, who is black, apparently didn't like it.


In a letter to the Philadelphia Human Relations Commission, the mayor claims:


[T]he First Amendment, like other constitutional rights, is not an unfettered right, and notwithstanding the First Amendment, a publisher has a duty to the public to exercise its role in a responsible way. I ask the Commission to evaluate whether the “speech” employed in this essay is not the reckless equivalent of “shouting ‘fire!’ in a crowded theater,” its prejudiced, fact-challenged generalizations an incitement to extreme reaction.


After seeing this I had to read the article. The article is long and the author interviews white people who live in Phily about race relations in the City. The Mayor's name in Nutter and seeing his response to article it may be appropriate. Race relations aren't an easy subject and I believe we often pretend there are race issues in only certain parts of the country but that clearly isn't the case.

The first link is Mayor Nutter asking for an investigation into the story. The second link is the story itself.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...ne-has-mayor-nutter-asking-for-investigation/

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/white-philly/


Edit: I didn't post this from a 'white people are good or bad' perspective. I will say I'm surprised a magazine appealing to an urban audience published this. (And by urban I don't mean black, I mean city people regardless of race)

Of course, the author of the article doesn't care to address exactly how these areas in Philly became predominantly black and poor. And what cracks me up is the Russian immigrant mouthing the same BS you'd find in a Stormfront article.....she comes from a country where ETHNIC discrimination is par for the course (yeah, I know some Russians who could tell you a thing or two about the BS regarding "cossacks" and "jews" that goes on in modern Russia). Her butt comes running over here, she's had it tough (maybe).... so ignorant of this country's racial history, she shoots her mouth off (pissed she couldn't move to a better neighborhood.

A bad economy just emphasizes what already exists.

This "article" is nothing new.....SOS went on 40 years ago. Yes, there are black folk who are reactionary bigots and racists, but that is NOT the entire black populaltion of Philly. The magazine and the article's author got what they wanted...a reaction from Nutter. Now let's see if they like what the spotlight will reveal.

 

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Of course, the author of the article doesn't care to address exactly how these areas in Philly became predominantly black and poor. And what cracks me up is the Russian immigrant mouthing the same BS you'd find in a Stormfront article.....she comes from a country where ETHNIC discrimination is par for the course (yeah, I know some Russians who could tell you a thing or two about the BS regarding "cossacks" and "jews" that goes on in modern Russia). Her butt comes running over here, she's had it tough (maybe).... so ignorant of this country's racial history, she shoots her mouth off (pissed she couldn't move to a better neighborhood.

A bad economy just emphasizes what already exists.

This "article" is nothing new.....SOS went on 40 years ago. Yes, there are black folk who are reactionary bigots and racists, but that is NOT the entire black populaltion of Philly. The magazine and the article's author got what they wanted...a reaction from Nutter. Now let's see if they like what the spotlight will reveal.

Yeah we know by it happened. Liberal domination of Philly like Detroit.

 

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The blatantly obvious implication is that white people would have no issue with race if those n-words would just stop robbing/attacking them and/or selling drugs to their kids. Then they could go back to ignoring them and their problems.

If you are too fucking stupid to pick up on it, then there is not much I can do to spell it out for you.

That's exactly it. I'm surprised that anyone would fail to pick up on it, but if even after it's been pointed out to you, you make the decision to dig in your heels, who cares? The world has changed. It's not changing, it's changed. Those kind of people don't matter anywhere near as much as they used to and they are fast approaching complete irrelevancy.

 

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Well SF at least you have Bravo on your side.

And on the bright side, hey, Cawacko finally posted something that attracted some interest!

 

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Well SF at least you have Bravo on your side.

And on the bright side, hey, Cawacko finally posted something that attracted some interest!

You have Jarod on yours... which proves nothing either way. Just yet another of your pathetic attempts to make yourself feel superior when you are losing an argument.

Still waiting on examples of what you think makes this guy an asshole... I suppose you are working up the courage to actually attempt to back up your earlier stupidity?

 

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That's exactly it. I'm surprised that anyone would fail to pick up on it, but if even after it's been pointed out to you, you make the decision to dig in your heels, who cares? The world has changed. It's not changing, it's changed. Those kind of people don't matter anywhere near as much as they used to and they are fast approaching complete irrelevancy.

LMAO... as I stated, you are simply a knee jerk reactionary who reads 'evil white guy' into any article a white guy puts forth discussing race.

Pretending he was implying anything as blatantly retarded as what String put forth is quite sad.

 

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SF:

It's OK for us to have different standards for what contitutes assholery. And it's OK for different people reading the same thing to have different reactions to it. No need to be a dick about it.