Registration WILL lead to CONFISCATION. Don't trust the takers.

ZappasGuitar said:
And Jarod's one sentence response does more to crush grind's ridiculous allegation than any other response in the past 6 pages...

CONGRATS Jarod!
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Yeah,,,you and Jughead so love your strawmen when you obviously can't refute anything in a post......
 
Superfreak said:
1) Your anecdotal evidence is not proof of anything
2) Car registry is far different than gun registry... no one is talking about banning cars... people are talking about banning guns.
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How is it different? you buy a car, you register it...you buy a gun, you register it.

How is it different?

According the the title of this thread, which you claim is 100% accurate, registration WILL lead to confiscation.

I just want to know when they're coming for my car.

Or are you going to move the goalposts again?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
His claim is also 100% accurate.

I have also registered numerous cars over the years and NOT A ONE has ever been confiscated.

PROOF positive that Grind's thread title is indeed 110% pure bullshit.
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Not to imply your strawman crap has any validity, but we've already had a few cases where legal, registered gun owners have had their firearms confiscated...

One, a women that had the tenacity to read the Consitituion at a town council meeting when complaining about a rise in her Real est. taxes....caused a raid on her home and guns confiscated

Another, a spouse voluntarily went to a mental clinic for 2 days and the local police raided the home and took weapons away that were registered to the other spouse...

Another, a vet. that was suspected of suffering from PTSD had his legally registered guns confiscated.....

If it can happed to one or two it can happen to one or two million or 10 or 20 million....

I'm no gonna look for links to prove my claims, I'm sure you can find them on your own if you want to....
 
NOVA said:
Yeah,,,you and Jughead so love your strawmen when you obviously can't refute anything in a post......
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And you make the FIFTH person who stopped by to insult Jarod, but who couldn't find a way to disprove his point.

Strange how that keeps happening...so many insults...not a single rational rebuttal of Jarod's point.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And you make the FIFTH person who stopped by to insult Jarod, but who couldn't find a way to disprove his point.

Strange how that keeps happening...so many insults...not a single rational rebuttal of Jarod's point.
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There is nothing to disprove....its a strawman.....has nothing to do with guns or the Second Amendment.


But, there are millions of autos in police compound lots all over the country with autos that have been confiscated....but its irrelevant anyway.
 
NOVA said:
There is nothing to disprove....its a strawman.....has nothing to do with guns or the Second Amendment.
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But it has EVERYTHING to do with the veracity of Grind's thread title. Grind made a patently absurd claim...Jarod disproved it.


NOVA said:
But, there are millions of autos in police compound lots all over the country with autos that have been confiscated....but its irrelevant anyway.
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Cars impounded because their owners committed a crime in them and/or abandoned them...NOT confiscated BECAUSE OF registration as Grind's title states.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
But it has EVERYTHING to do with the veracity of Grind's thread title. Grind made a patently absurd claim...Jarod disproved it.





Cars impounded because their owners committed a crime in them and/or abandoned them...NOT confiscated BECAUSE OF registration as Grind's title states.
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Guns are currently impounded after having been used in a crime, and they are not even registered..... OMG, its happening already.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
oh my dear sweet jesus what a horseshit doctrine. if I lend a power saw to my father, am I liable for any damage caused when he uses it? utter horseshit and any court or lawyer attempting to use this should be ridiculed beyond redemption.
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I won a 1.4 million dollar verdict using this doctrine, thank you very much.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
But it has EVERYTHING to do with the veracity of Grind's thread title. Grind made a patently absurd claim...Jarod disproved it.

Jarod disproved nothing....car registration is irrelevant to the issue.....

I'm sure he registered his kids in school and they weren't confiscated either....and thats as irrelevant as both cars and guns....


Cars impounded because their owners committed a crime in them and/or abandoned them...NOT confiscated BECAUSE OF registration as Grind's title states.
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I already told you it was strawman bs and has nothing to do with guns.....


The liberal goal of gun control and limiting magizines and banning certain weapons because of how they look is undeniable.....thats number one and absolute fact.
the method they intend to use is registration to identify who owns them...you can't confiscate them unless you know where they are.

then ANY accusation, true or false can, and will be, and already IS used to
confiscate the weapons of the identified owner....no crime has to be proven, no due process, the accusation is enough.....its
already being done.....
Thats not to say you will never get those weapons returned, but it is you that will have to bear the cost and spend weeks, months or years to get justice....
Its is the liberals belief that you will not do those things or bear the cost.....and of course, you will not be allowed to
buy any other weapons until the first issue is resolved.....
Its actually a damn good plan and only the SCOTUS will be able to come to your rescue and even that door can be closed by a moron like Obama with little problem...
 
Jarod said:
I won a 1.4 million dollar verdict using this doctrine, thank you very much.
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big whip. just because the bullshit courts endorse that fucked up theory and people win money from it doesn't mean it's the right doctrine. it's flat out insane. again, if I lend my father my power saw and he cuts off someones arm, am I responsible for that?????
 
SmarterthanYou said:
big whip. just because the bullshit courts endorse that fucked up theory and people win money from it doesn't mean it's the right doctrine. it's flat out insane. again, if I lend my father my power saw and he cuts off someones arm, am I responsible for that?????
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Lawyers, just like Jarod, will defend you or try like hell to convict you....responsibility, justice, and common sense won't be part of the equation...

One side or the other will prevail and get a handsome settlement, the other a lesser fee, and you will lose either way....thats why we all despise lawyers and why
we all have to bow to their self manufactured need in our society......they make the laws.
 
Superfreak said:
Another sign that you know you have lost. The wonderful condescending tone of the 'intellectual liberal'.

That said, I did indeed step in it. It is hard to avoid all the crap you have spread around this thread.



The position was already articulated, you simply refuse to accept anything that goes against your fantasy world views. It was explained to you why 'will' is acceptable in this case. It is not fear mongering as we have already seen the Dems use incremental steps to achieve their longer term objectives. We have already heard Dems call for the BAN of certain types of guns and magazine capacities. Yet you think it will stop there. It won't. Why? Because even if you ban them... the next level of gun and mag size will be your next target the second another incident occurs.

If you think banning mags that hold 10+ rounds will stop anything... again, for the billionth time... how fast can a person change clips? If a person with two 45's with 8 rounds each plus back up clips comes in a room, are those kids any less dead? Do you honestly expect us to believe that you wouldn't then be screaming for them to be banned?

You are not solving anything by banning those guns or mag sizes. You know that. But your knee jerk response is to ban the weapons/mag sizes. Out of fear.

You are shown an example of a country that did the registration. You were shown what it led to. It wasn't an overnight thing... it took 20 years. That is what we recognize. That is what you wish to ignore. You pretend we cannot hear the cries of the fear mongers demanding guns be banned. The pretense that it is just certain types of guns with certain magazine capacities is not fooling anyone.
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Here's a better one. Jump forward to the 2 minute point:
 
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Thing1 said:
I expected this as well. You're actually smart, so you know you're wrong - so you just wrote a lot of words & are hoping no one notices. Like a high schooler BS'ing on an essay.

The reasoning is not "acceptable," UNLESS you accept the same kind of argument & reasoning from the gun control side, which you don't. You only accept it from Kreiger, because you're peas in a pod on this issue.

I'm not going to go back & forth with your "energizer bunny of incorrectness" thing all day. It ends with this: Registration does not ALWAYS lead to confiscation, therefore the absolute statement of the thread title is wrong.

The end.
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So what are we supposed to do, wait until it happens and then complain?
How's that going to stop the confiscations?
 
Superfreak said:
He is an idiot. He still actually believes he has made valid points on this thread. He thinks by saying 'you know you're wrong' that somehow he will Jedi mind fuck us into thinking he is right. Jedi mind tricks do not work on me.
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These are not the guns you are looking for.
 
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