Rand Paul insane.

cawacko said:
This is random but my liberal buddy just posted this on Facebook after calling Rand Paul a f'ing crazy tea party nut...

"So Mr. Paul Rand, let me ask you this: If an American member of Al Queda takes you hostage in the US, you'd be against using drones against that individual to save your ass? What if one shot from a drone resulted in your release and your captors death? Unlikely yes, but your point you made for 13 hours is DUMB."

I'm not an expert on drones which is why I ask this question but there's no way if you are being held hostage in a room or a building a drone is going to take someone else out and not get you at the same time is there?
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What is truly hilarious to me is that these same liberals wet their panties over water boarding yet have ZERO trouble with this. My guess is that if it were a Republican making this decision, Jarod would be up in arms and heading to the streets.

What is also interesting is that there is a huge battle in the Republican Party right now that is being played out on this issue. You have Rand Paul and Ted Cruz fighting for the US Constitution and the establishment folks like McShamnesty and Grahmnesty playing footsie with Obummer. I hope the latter lose their asses.
 
I Love America said:
What is truly hilarious to me is that these same liberals wet their panties over water boarding yet have ZERO trouble with this. My guess is that if it were a Republican making this decision, Jarod would be up in arms and heading to the streets.

What is also interesting is that there is a huge battle in the Republican Party right now that is being played out on this issue. You have Rand Paul and Ted Cruz fighting for the US Constitution and the establishment folks like McShamnesty and Grahmnesty playing footsie with Obummer. I hope the latter lose their asses.
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Who is it that has zero trouble with this?
 
cawacko said:
This is random but my liberal buddy just posted this on Facebook after calling Rand Paul a f'ing crazy tea party nut...

"So Mr. Paul Rand, let me ask you this: If an American member of Al Queda takes you hostage in the US, you'd be against using drones against that individual to save your ass? What if one shot from a drone resulted in your release and your captors death? Unlikely yes, but your point you made for 13 hours is DUMB."

I'm not an expert on drones which is why I ask this question but there's no way if you are being held hostage in a room or a building a drone is going to take someone else out and not get you at the same time is there?
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Your friend is being misled by the dishonest framing of this by the administration and Holder. It's not solely about drones and these bullshit fantasies from an episode of 24 are not relevant.

Paul asked under what conditions a person could be added to a targeted kill list, if there is any limit on the jurisdcition of this power and whether the judiciary or legislative branches had a right to some sort of check on this power.


http://paul.senate.gov/files/documents/Brennan1.pdf
http://paul.senate.gov/files/documents/Brennan2.pdf
http://paul.senate.gov/files/documents/Brennan3.pdf
 
cawacko said:
This is random but my buddy just posted this on Facebook after calling Rand Paul a f'ing crazy tea party nut...

"So Mr. Paul Rand, let me ask you this: If an American member of Al Queda takes you hostage in the US, you'd be against using drones against that individual to save your ass? What if one shot from a drone resulted in your release and your captors death? Unlikely yes, but your point you made for 13 hours is DUMB."

I'm not an expert on drones which is why I ask this question but there's no way if you are being held hostage in a room or a building a drone is going to take someone else out and not get you at the same time is there?
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Technically yes but I think you're rather missing his point. That's why I think most of the arguments have been polemics. People are just opposing drones just to be opposing. I'm reasonably sure that Bush used drones too and I'm sure he was criticized by the left for using them too.

Dung is right in that the public does need transparency and clarification as to under what circumstances does the Government have the legal right to use deadly force against US citizens via drones. To state the obvious there are situations where deadly force is appropirate and situations where it is not.
 
Sir Digby Chicken Caesar said:
Your friend is being misled by the dishonest framing of this by the administration and Holder. It's not solely about drones and these bullshit fantasies from an episode of 24 are not relevant.

Paul asked under what conditions a person could be added to a targeted kill list, if there is any limit on the jurisdcition of this power and whether the judiciary or legislative branches had a right to some sort of check on this power.


http://paul.senate.gov/files/documents/Brennan1.pdf
http://paul.senate.gov/files/documents/Brennan2.pdf
http://paul.senate.gov/files/documents/Brennan3.pdf
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and those are legitimate questions.
 
Jarod said:
"He objected to the contents of a letter he received from Attorney General Eric Holder that asserted the U.S. government had the legal authority to kill a U.S. citizen on American soil."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2819740.html
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Key words, U.S government we are not talking about a guy holding up a bank, Due friggin process dude, who makes the decision to use the drones? what if the evidence is thouroughly examined, come on we can't even assassinate a leader of another country who is involved in genocide, but we can kill our own citizens for disagreeing with the Administration.
 
patriot66 said:
Key words, U.S government we are not talking about a guy holding up a bank, Due friggin process dude, who makes the decision to use the drones? what if the evidence is thouroughly examined, come on we can't even assassinate a leader of another country who is involved in genocide, but we can kill our own citizens for disagreeing with the Administration.
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How is a bank robber from Detroit killed by the FBI while robing a bank in San Fransisco not the U.S. Government killing a U.S. citizen on American soil?
 
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Jarod said:
How is a bank robber from Detroit killed by the FBI while robing a bank in San Fransisco not the U.S. Government killing a U.S. citizen on American soil?
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What difference would someone's residence have to do with where they perpetrate a crime? Did the Robber present a clear and present danger? Your scenarios are lacking. If they are armed and dangerous, the cops are justified in using deadly force. Unarmed perp? They had better fear for their lives if they kill the guy and they don't want to stand trial for manslaughter, a non-premeditated crime.

Drone strike could never result in the pilot fearing for his life. It's a premeditated act.

I highly doubt a drone strike would include small arm fire. They carry missiles for a reason.
 
I Love America said:
What is truly hilarious to me is that these same liberals wet their panties over water boarding yet have ZERO trouble with this. My guess is that if it were a Republican making this decision, Jarod would be up in arms and heading to the streets.

What is also interesting is that there is a huge battle in the Republican Party right now that is being played out on this issue. You have Rand Paul and Ted Cruz fighting for the US Constitution and the establishment folks like McShamnesty and Grahmnesty playing footsie with Obummer. I hope the latter lose their asses.
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Bullshit. You have ONE liberal, who is also an idiot (and too lazy to use spellcheck) licking Obama's balls in this thread, the rest of us are giving him shit about it.
Stop being such a moron.
 
Jarod said:
Sanna Sanna Colito de Rana....

I thought you would be awaire that the CIA has nothing to do with the drone program.
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I need to see proof of this statement, all articles I read that, the drone program conducted by the CIA...I will retract my statement if you show me otherwise.

I will also refrain from insults.
 
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