Drone War Expansion Sparks Questions About Effectiveness, Oversight

I know, and me too. I did support Afghanistan and realized later I had made a terrible mistake doing so. I didn't even support Gulf war 1.

I hated Gulf I, and we were in a real minority on that. I remember it was polling over 90% support right after we went. I was in full "huh?" mode.
 
So you are going to continue to make shit up and pretend it is reality? Oh gee, well in that case you must be right. No worries though, the board has known you long enough to know you are full of shit. You are no where near as vocal about the 'atrocities' being committed now that it is Obama in charge. You remain silent, diverting yet another thread with your bullshit in order to take the discussion off of the criticism.



Yes, you do need the lecture. Pretending I didn't care about civilian deaths is simply bullshit from you. Bullshit you use now to divert from Obama doing the same thing you supposedly abhorred back then. Now you are relatively silent.

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Darla is no Obamanaut .. who is lorax?

Both Bush and Obama deserve all the criticisms that can be possibly heaped their way.

The Iraq War was TOTALLY unnecessary and a complete fraud.

.. and the same is true of the attack on Libya.

Sorry, Lorax is Oncelor is Thing 1... he changed from one Dr. Suess character to another over time.
 
The years of sanctions on Iraq were responsible for an untold number of deaths, many of them children. They were unconscionable. But I will say it takes a certain kind of depravity to claim that because they were killing people we needed to institute shock and awe, a bombing campaign the likes of we can't even imagine, and that is a fact, which murdered an unknown number of people, and again, many of them children.

I don't support sanctions against countries, they are the modern day equivalent of laying siege to a castle...the peasants starve. But the answer is not to vaporize them all in airstrikes!

LOL... right... once again you simply make shit up. I didn't say that the war being inevitable meant we should conduct the war in the manner in which Bush did. You consistently make this ignorant leap to the conclusion you wish in order to once again divert from what was actually stated.
 
You say they are not obamabauts... yet both are on here trying to divert the topic onto what I said years ago. Can't help but notice they wish to avoid the topic.

I only jumped in when I saw you blatantly denying what you repeatedly argued on here years ago.

I support very little of Obama's foreign policy.
 
Under Bush, you did the old "LMAO MORON" at me when I complained about all of the civilian casualties and you mocked me for my "ignorance" in not understanding that our bombs are now so "precise" that there are very few civilian casualities.

You know it. I know it. The End.

I remember him saying they notified civilians of when they were going to bomb...lmao
 
Good gawd, what is he whining about now?

Tom got banned and just because I was told about it, somehow it's my fault! Meanwhile i had nothing to do with it. He was banned from what I have heard just recently, for calling Howey a pedophile. Which I believe the titmouse Fully supported the banning of Bijou and Top for the same infraction.

But that is the titmouse...total hypocrite. And it's always Darla's fault!
 
If we are responsible for those who starve in a nation we sanction, then we are responsible for the children of a murderer having to go on welfare because their daddy is no longer paying the bills.

Does this mean we should no longer incarcerate people regardless of the crime? Or we, as citizens of the world, should ignore atrocities because action may make some leaders starve their people? What exactly are we saying here?
 
If we are responsible for those who starve in a nation we sanction, then we are responsible for the children of a murderer having to go on welfare because their daddy is no longer paying the bills.

Does this mean we should no longer incarcerate people regardless of the crime? Or we, as citizens of the world, should ignore atrocities because action may make some leaders starve their people? What exactly are we saying here?

huh?

Listen, drop the convoluted stuff. You're a buddhist right? You support half a million Iraqi children dying because we cut off food and medication? I don't get that. I never will.
 
Tom got banned and just because I was told about it, somehow it's my fault! Meanwhile i had nothing to do with it. He was banned from what I have heard just recently, for calling Howey a pedophile. Which I believe the titmouse Fully supported the banning of Bijou and Top for the
But that is the titmouse...total hypocrite. And it's always Darla's fault!


Thanks, didn't want to have to read his comments.

Tom should not have made his remarks. The mods have made it very clear. You didn't make TOm write his post.
 
Thanks, didn't want to have to read his comments.

Tom should not have made his remarks. The mods have made it very clear. You didn't make TOm write his post.

I have to say, even though I personally feel they take this policy to the extreme, I really do, the fact is I respect the rule. And I don't know call me crazy, but I have NO trouble following it. Why do so many here find it impossible not to call people that? It is mind boggling to me. I guess when you are that weak you always look for someone to blame for your short comings.
 
huh?

Listen, drop the convoluted stuff. You're a buddhist right? You support half a million Iraqi children dying because we cut off food and medication? I don't get that. I never will.

I also don't support ignoring and through inaction making ourselves responsible for genocide and mass killings. Again, if through our positive action by incarcerating a "head of family" for a crime has the same negative impact on a family, is it our fault for incarcerating him, or his fault for committing the crime?

Choosing to do nothing is still a choice.
 
huh?

Listen, drop the convoluted stuff. You're a buddhist right? You support half a million Iraqi children dying because we cut off food and medication? I don't get that. I never will.

I also don't support ignoring and through inaction making ourselves responsible for genocide and mass killings. Again, if through our positive action by incarcerating a "head of family" for a crime has the same negative impact on a family, is it our fault for incarcerating him, or his fault for committing the crime?

Choosing to do nothing is still a choice.
 
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