Does drilling cause earthquakes?

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Crashk said:
Facts like the New Madrid fault not being in Ohio doesn't matter to the drillers and their toadies. It's just an excuse to cover the damage that fracking is doing to Ohio and west .Pa. and anywhere where it's being used.

I lived just north of Youngstown Ohio for 35 years, we never had as much as a small shake from the New Madrid fault, it's not in Ohio. We also had a deep well that produced the cleanest best tasting water. My sister still lives in the same house. Since fracking her water is ruined, as is the ground water in the whole N.E. Ohio area. She heard the boom when the earthquake caused by fracking hit almost 20 miles away. She's in her mid 50's and has lived there all her life and the quake caused by fracking was a first for her.

If you are for fracking then you're a fracking idiot. Or a greedy oil company who's ceo's will roast in hell.

This insane way of recovering energy should be stopped immediately.
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There is evidence that waste disposal wells caused existing fault lines to slip, so the obvious answer is not to use waste disposal wells and recycle more.
 
Stop being a mealy mouthed apologizer for big oil. Fracking fucks up ground water and causes earthquakes. Period.

The oil companies who fucked up the ground water should be held responsible.
 
Damocles said:
That also isn't what the story is about. They are trying to say that an otherwise quiet place is suddenly active because of fracking. They ignore that there was an active fault line there to begin with.

Reality: There is no evidence that fracking causes more plate activity. Even wide area fracking is minimal in comparison to geological shift. Your argument here is childlike. It can "lift a building"... Geological plate shifting moves frickin' CONTINENTS. It is a stupid comparison. It's like pretending that a jack hammer is the same thing as an earthquake... sure, if you limit your study to 3 feet.
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You almost have a point, but not quite. Why? Because fracking has indeed caused earthquakes.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I just don't understand why people are so implacably opposed to fracking, it just seems to go well beyond any rationality. As Mott said, as long as it is well regulated then there are few problems, it seems that you would prefer to pay European prices for natural gas. If fracking is so dangerous then you ought to be able to show chapter and verse of all the harm that its caused. What is bizarre is all the scientifically illiterate coming on here and pontificating about the subject. One such canard is on the composition of the fracking water, well here is a diagram from the Dept. of Energy website. Can you see any aromatic hydrocarbons like benzene, toluene or phenol listed there? Of course, som ebright spark like Rune will say that it is all lies and he knows better as they are all shills and controlled by Big Oil and Big Gas.
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None of which I want in my drinking water, and I am curious why the "acid" isn't specified, since the other chemicals are...
 
Rune said:
You almost have a point, but not quite. Why? Because fracking has indeed caused earthquakes.
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You almost participated intelligently in the discussion, but you didn't. Why? Because that was discussed and the "studies" are inconclusive. Even on the site that most wanted it to be true (a green blogger) in the article linked to it was shown that those doing the "study" found wells near more active as well as less active areas near fault lines. That could indicate that fracking does not cause "earthquakes"... The causality is not well represented in these "studies".
 
Damocles said:
You almost participated intelligently in the discussion, but you didn't. Why? Because that was discussed and the "studies" are inconclusive. Even on the site that most wanted it to be true (a green blogger) in the article linked to it was shown that those doing the "study" found wells near more active as well as less active areas near fault lines. That could indicate that fracking does not cause "earthquakes"... The causality is not well represented in these "studies".
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"Even on the site that most wanted it to be true . . ."

Nope. Nothing partisan there. Also, too, ad hom. Also too why the scare quotes around "study?"

Jesus. It's like you're simply incapable of NOT being a dick.
 
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Dungheap said:
"Even on the site that most wanted it to be true . . ."

Nope. Nothing partisan there. Also, too, ad hom. Also too why the scare quotes around "study?"

Jesus. It's like you're simply incapable of being a dick.
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LOL. Dung, unless you can show that the green blogger you linked to doesn't want it to be true, this is just noise. And you're right, I am incapable of being a dick. I literally wrote back the same sentence he did in my answer. If you can't understand that maybe I am in my total incapacity of being a dick, simply repeating back their words to them, you should pick a different target for "gotcha" games.
 
Damocles said:
LOL. Dung, unless you can show that the green blogger you linked to doesn't want it to be true, this is just noise.
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So, you want me to disprove your unsubstantiated claim as to the author's desires about the connection between fracking and seismic activity?

LOL. OK. That makes sense.
 
Dungheap said:
So, you want me to disprove your unsubstantiated claim as to the author's desires about the connection between fracking and seismic activity?

LOL. OK. That makes sense.
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LOL again, you still don't even see what I was laughing at... You're right, I am simply incapable of being a dick...

And again, the article was from a green blogger site. Yeah, blogs.nature... those people really want fracking to be awesome.
 
Damocles said:
LOL again, you still don't even see what I was laughing at... You're right, I am simply incapable of being a dick...

And again, the article was from a green blogger site. Yeah, blogs.nature... those people really want fracking to be awesome.
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This is precious. Apparently, you are entirely unfamiliar with Nature and that alone kind of diminishes your credibility on scientific issues as a general matter.
 
Crashk said:
Stop being a mealy mouthed apologizer for big oil. Fracking fucks up ground water and causes earthquakes. Period.

The oil companies who fucked up the ground water should be held responsible.
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There is absolutely no reason why it should contaminate an aquifer which is thousands of feet above the shale layer with impervious rock in between. Yes, fracking can cause small earthquakes of magnitude around 2.0 to 2.5 strong enough to rattle a few coffee cups.
 
Damocles said:
LOL again, you still don't even see what I was laughing at... You're right, I am simply incapable of being a dick...

And again, the article was from a green blogger site. Yeah, blogs.nature... those people really want fracking to be awesome.
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Isn't that the blog associated with Nature journal?
 
Dungheap said:
A link, dude. You clearly know what a link is so give the link to the website from which you obtained that image.
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I told you it originates from the Department of Energy. Anyway, someone as computer literate as you ought to be able to right click on the image and get the URL.
 
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Aoxomoxoa said:
I told you it was from the Department of Energy.
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You know that I know where the image comes from so just fucking post it. If it came from the Department of Energy website as you claim, you could give me a link to the DoE website from which you obtained it. But it didn't, so you can't.

You also probably clicked through on the link where you got the claim that it came from the DoE website by now and realize that it isn't true and that the link leads to a website run by the American Petroleum Institute (eneryfromshale.org is an Energy Tomorrow project and Energy Tomorrow is an American Petroluem Institute outfit).
 
Dungheap said:
You know that I know where the image comes from so just fucking post it. If it came from the Department of Energy website as you claim, you could give me a link to the DoE website from which you obtained it. But it didn't, so you can't.

You also probably clicked through on the link where you got the claim that it came from the DoE website by now and realize that it isn't true and that the link leads to a website run by the American Petroleum Institute (eneryfromshale.org is an Energy Tomorrow project and Energy Tomorrow is an American Petroluem Institute outfit).
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Well I knew you were going somewhere with this, and was really enjoying waiting for it. Great payoff.
 
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