Proof affirmative action works

Other Presidents have released them and I think Bush's were leaked.

Owebama must have something to hide. Just sayin'. An egomaniac like that would have them plastered all over the Internetz if everything was up to par. It ain't.

He didn't say grades, he said test scores and papers, so what's that supposed to mean? The only "paper" I ever saw was one of Michelle's.
 
This was easy to find on Romney.....Upon his return, he married his high school sweetheart, Ann, and soon after, enrolled in Brigham Young University. He graduated in 1971 with a Degree in English, with a 3.97GPA. His young family then moved to Boston, and Mitt enrolled in both Harvard Law (HLS) and Harvard Business School (HBS). He obtained his MBA from HBS in 1975 and graduated cum laude from HLS with his Juris Doctor the same year, finishing in the top 5% of his class.

Anything similar about Obama that gives a GPA or was percentage he finished in his class? I do know that he was made President of Harvard Law School. I also know that the standards to be President were removed in the 1970s.

http://theobamahustle.wordpress.com...eview-without-publishing-anything-of-his-own/
Nope. It was the head of Harvard's Law Review, a publication. And his job was to head the operation, not to be a writer for it.
First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review

By FOX BUTTERFIELD, Special to The New York Times
Published: February 06, 1990
Correction Appended

The Harvard Law Review, generally considered the most prestigious in the country, elected the first black president in its 104-year history today. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School. The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

''The fact that I've been elected shows a lot of progress,'' Mr. Obama said today in an interview. ''It's encouraging. But it's important that stories like mine aren't used to say that everything is O.K. for blacks. You have to remember that for every one of me, there are hundreds or thousands of black students with at least equal talent who don't get a chance,'' he said, alluding to poverty or growing up in a drug environment..."

What a Law Review Does


Law reviews, which are edited by students, play a double role at law schools, providing a chance for students to improve their legal research and writing, and at the same time offering judges and scholars a forum for new legal arguments. The Harvard Law Review is generally considered the most widely cited of the student law reviews.

On his goals in his new post, Mr. Obama said: ''I personally am interested in pushing a strong minority perspective. I'm fairly opinionated about this. But as president of the law review, I have a limited role as only first among equals.''

Therefore, Mr. Obama said, he would concentrate on making the review a ''forum for debate,'' bringing in new writers and pushing for livelier, more accessible writing.

A President's Future


The president of the law review usually goes on to serve as a clerk for a judge on the Federal Court of Appeals for a year, and then as a clerk for an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Obama said he planned to spend two or three years in private law practice and then return to Chicago to re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing. Professors and students at the law school reacted cautiously to Mr. Obama's selection. ''For better or for worse, people will view it as historically significant,'' said Prof. Randall Kennedy, who teaches contracts and race relations law. ''But I hope it won't overwhelm this individual student's achievement.''

Change in Selection System

Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review's 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.
Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon. That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.
Harvard, like a number of other top law schools, no longer ranks its law students for any purpose including a guide to recruiters.

(Continued)

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/u...harvard-s-law-review.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm
 
Nobody had to demand it. Bush, Gore, Kerry are all available.

Really? And, you guys are hilarious. McCain ranked 894th out of 899 in his class at the USNA but that certainly made no difference to you back in 2008.

"John McCain disclosed his class rank in 2007, but not his grades. John Kerry made his Yale transcript public only after he lost the 2004 election. Sarah Palin didn't talk about her grades until after the 2008 election. One exception is Joe Biden, who released his undergraduate transcript in 1987 as a form of damage control.

"Moreover, President George W. Bush's records at Yale became public only after they were leaked to The New Yorker in November 1999. Bush had declined to release his academic transcripts."


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/08/02/limbaugh-uses-dishonest-college-transcripts-arg/189096
 
Nope. It was the head of Harvard's Law Review, a publication. And his job was to head the operation, not to be a writer for it.
First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review

By FOX BUTTERFIELD, Special to The New York Times
Published: February 06, 1990
Correction Appended

The Harvard Law Review, generally considered the most prestigious in the country, elected the first black president in its 104-year history today. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School. The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

''The fact that I've been elected shows a lot of progress,'' Mr. Obama said today in an interview. ''It's encouraging. But it's important that stories like mine aren't used to say that everything is O.K. for blacks. You have to remember that for every one of me, there are hundreds or thousands of black students with at least equal talent who don't get a chance,'' he said, alluding to poverty or growing up in a drug environment..."

What a Law Review Does


Law reviews, which are edited by students, play a double role at law schools, providing a chance for students to improve their legal research and writing, and at the same time offering judges and scholars a forum for new legal arguments. The Harvard Law Review is generally considered the most widely cited of the student law reviews.

On his goals in his new post, Mr. Obama said: ''I personally am interested in pushing a strong minority perspective. I'm fairly opinionated about this. But as president of the law review, I have a limited role as only first among equals.''

Therefore, Mr. Obama said, he would concentrate on making the review a ''forum for debate,'' bringing in new writers and pushing for livelier, more accessible writing.

A President's Future


The president of the law review usually goes on to serve as a clerk for a judge on the Federal Court of Appeals for a year, and then as a clerk for an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Obama said he planned to spend two or three years in private law practice and then return to Chicago to re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing. Professors and students at the law school reacted cautiously to Mr. Obama's selection. ''For better or for worse, people will view it as historically significant,'' said Prof. Randall Kennedy, who teaches contracts and race relations law. ''But I hope it won't overwhelm this individual student's achievement.''

Change in Selection System

Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review's 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.
Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon. That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.
Harvard, like a number of other top law schools, no longer ranks its law students for any purpose including a guide to recruiters.

(Continued)

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/u...harvard-s-law-review.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm

Yes, I am very familiar with this. Here is a quote from your post....

"Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon. That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition."

Where are Obama's grades? Where is the paper Obama wrote for the "writing competitition" if he wasn't chosen because of high academic rank?

Dumb asses.
 
Other Presidents have released them and I think Bush's were leaked.

Owebama must have something to hide. Just sayin'. An egomaniac like that would have them plastered all over the Internetz if everything was up to par. It ain't.

Too bad it doesn't matter and you'll never see them. Oh, and by the way, Obama won. Four more years, so suck it, dullard.

Forward!

:rofl2:
 
Too bad it doesn't matter and you'll never see them. Oh, and by the way, Obama won. Four more years, so suck it, dullard.

Forward!

:rofl2:
I don't need to see them, I know he's an affirmative action dumbass. Just look at the country. LOL

Can't wait until you really get a taste of what you've 'won'.

Hang on. It's coming. :thup:
 
I dont know what President Obama's grades were but I do know that he was president of the LAW REVIEW, you dont get on the law review without excellent grades.

I also know that GWB could not get into Texas A&M but was accepted to Harvard, I can only speculate that it was because his father was head of the CIA and his grandfather was a U.S. Senator.
 
I dont know what President Obama's grades were but I do know that he was president of the LAW REVIEW, you dont get on the law review without excellent grades.

I also know that GWB could not get into Texas A&M but was accepted to Harvard, I can only speculate that it was because his father was head of the CIA and his grandfather was a U.S. Senator.

Go read post #127 and educate yourself.
 
Go read post #127 and educate yourself.

Continue being dismissive, it's all you've got. He didn't get into Harvard Law because he was stupid. And he didn't get to head the Law Review because he had poor grades and/or was a poor writer.

"In recent years, the number of students completing the competition has ranged from 215 to 265. 44 students are invited to join the Review each year.

Fourteen editors (two from each 1L section) are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis."
 
Continue being dismissive, it's all you've got. He didn't get into Harvard Law because he was stupid. And he didn't get to head the Law Review because he had poor grades and/or was a poor writer.

"In recent years, the number of students completing the competition has ranged from 215 to 265. 44 students are invited to join the Review each year.

Fourteen editors (two from each 1L section) are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis."

You keep telling us that Obama is smart, but you can't back it up with any evidence of grades or papers or test scores. Ever heard of Affirmative Action? That bucket of lies you're carrying for Obama is going to get heavy.
 
I dont know what President Obama's grades were but I do know that he was president of the LAW REVIEW, you dont get on the law review without excellent grades.

I also know that GWB could not get into Texas A&M but was accepted to Harvard, I can only speculate that it was because his father was head of the CIA and his grandfather was a U.S. Senator.


You KNOW Bush couldn't get into A&M but yet he picked that University for the site of he Presidential Library...mighty forgiving, huh....
How do you know he even applied to A&M in the first place.
He received degrees form both Yale and Harvard, but he just ain't that smart in your book, huh...

You can speculate about Bush but can't about Obama.....you can find reasons why Bush get into Harvard other than merit and can't speculate on
Obama getting to be Pres. of HLR except by excellent grades....

Why does he insist his grades be kept a secret....speculate about that...
Why does he insist on secrecy about how his college tuitions were covered...speculate about that....
Did affirmative action play any part in Obamas charmed life ?....speculate about that.....

Got a case of tunnel-vision maybe ?
 
You keep telling us that Obama is smart, but you can't back it up with any evidence of grades or papers or test scores. Ever heard of Affirmative Action? That bucket of lies you're carrying for Obama is going to get heavy.

Too funny. In 2008 you were all over the guy who graduated at the bottom of his class. Where was the call for his papers and test scores? For that matter, where are Romney's papers and test scores? But for some reason the black guy is being held to a higher standard of proof.
 
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