Israel at it again Dec 3 2012

[Wise Old Man]

The Palestinians are defending their land against zionist occupation, therefore according to your logic, the land belongs to the Palestinians. Thanks!!!

Israel is defending their people from Islamist gangsters. Go fuck yourself.

 

[wiseones2cents]

The UN made Israel a Sovereign Nation in 1948 and there was an offer of two states which was rejected by your pals and then Israel was attacked. Go fuck yourself.

How the heck can Israel be a sovereign state if they are unable to agree upon borders?lol How can you have a state with no official borders?LOL Fuck you stupid old man!

 

[wiseones2cents]

Israel is defending their people from Islamist gangsters. Go fuck yourself.

Islamist gangsters? Isn't Israel were all the American Jewish gangsters went to retire to? And isn't it run by underground mob groups?

The Islamist are freedom fighters. Defending their nation against an occupier.

 

[wiseones2cents]

"Where does Genesis claim the Earth is 6,000 years old or mention dinosaurs? " - Dixie


I was looking forward to his answer to this, but I don't think its gonna happen...
I don't believe Neo-Nazi's like him actually read the Bible, to you ?

Well the earth was made in 6 days. That includes Adam and all the dinosaurs, though according to Scientists? Dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years(not a few days) prior to the evolution of man.

The Bible gives detailed information of the ages of Adam and his offspring and if you do the math the earth according to Scripture is only about 7000+ years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism

Young Earth creationism (YEC) is the religious belief[1] that the Universe, Earth, and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of the Abrahamic God during a relatively short period, sometime between 5,700 and 10,000 years ago.[2] Its primary adherents are those Christians and Jews[3] who believe that God created the Earth in six 24-hour days, using a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative as a basis.[4][5]

The scientific consensus, supported by a 2006 statement by 68 national and international science academies, is that it is evidence-based fact derived from observations and experiments in multiple scientific disciplines that the universe has existed for around 13.7 billion years and that the Earth was formed about 4.5 billion years ago, with life first appearing at least 2.5 billion years ago.[6] Although many young Earth creationists (YECs) are active in the development of creation science, an endeavor that holds that the events associated with supernatural creation can be evidenced and modeled through an interpretation of the scientific method, the consensus among scientists is that creation science is unscientific in both conception and methodology.[7]

Since 1982, between 40% and 50% of adults in the United States say they hold the creationist view that "God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years" when Gallup asked for their views on the origin and development of human beings.[8] As of 2012, the percentage of believers decreases as the level of education increases. Only 25% of respondents with postgraduate degrees believed compared with 52% of those with a high school education or less.[9] A 2011 Gallup survey reports that 30% of U.S. adults interpret the Bible literally.

 

[wiseones2cents]

The UN made a two state offer in 1948, Israel took up the offer. The Pals rejected it and Israel was attacked. Go fuck yourself.

Neither one accepted it. Boy you guys are really receiving a pounding.LOL!!!!

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Then you are unfamiliar with Scripture!!!GOD created the earth and Man in 6 days!!!

The Bible does not state this. You have misinterpreted the Scripture.

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

How much human concept of time passed between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2? Any idea? How about between Gen 1:2 and 1:3? Of course, you don't have an answer, because it doesn't say what amount of time transpired, in fact, it wasn't until the 5th verse we even had the concept of "days" in the story. There may have been billions of years that passed, God may have created billions of other things in that time, he may have created and destroyed dinosaurs. We don't know because The Bible doesn't say.

So any subsequent argument about timelines fall apart right here. There is no defined timeline, it is derived by people who mistranslated the Scripture, to draw conclusions that simply aren't presented.

Aslo the Bible has ages of all the Ancestors that date back to Adam. Add them all up and see what number you get! Around 7000 years give or take.

Again, aside from the HUGE potential gaps in time between creation and Adam, there are also huge unexplained gaps of time in the Biblical record. You can't add up unknowns. We don't know how many years passed in some cases, it is not clearly defined in the Scripture.

Yet scientists say that the earth is millions of years old.

Again, go back to Gen 1:1-5... tell me how much "time" passed? A minute? An hour? Ten billion years? It is not until Gen 1:5 that "days" were even created, so how can you have "years" without days? How can you have minutes or seconds or hours? Lots of things for you to justify here before you go claiming this all happened in a day.

Lets not talk about Noah's ark. The story is laughable and only and uneducated dim whit(deceived) or deceiver would acknowledge the story as truth! Same thing with the parting of the red sea. They probably caused a dam to momentarily cut off a river and when they passed over they let the river run again. Cutting off access to the Egyptians.

Lots of stories in the Bible are laughable when you take them out of context and draw presumptions that aren't there. What's with all the "this probably happened, and that probably happened" stuff? Sounds like you are trying to logically explain something that was indeed possible. Doesn't sound like something laughable to me, sounds like something plausible, and you trying to explain it. A lot of the stories presented in the Bible are handed down through generations, told and retold, in a time when there wasn't television or photographs. In order for the teller of a story to make his/her point, a lot of 'flexibility' was given in how the story was told. I don't want to use the word 'embellished' because that denotes a bit of a 'tall tale' and I don't think it was that, as much as just the way stories were told. I think a lot of people on both 'sides', religious and anti-religious, make the mistake of interpreting Biblical stories literally, in every detail. There is a dramatic difference in how humans communicate today, versus thousands and thousands of years ago, before we had the ability to express thought and imagination with imagery, when the written or spoken word had to carry the drama and action of the story.

Do you want to keep going? I haven't even begun!

I don't want you to bother continuing to make a fool of yourself by misinterpreting the Scriptures.

Things that happened thousands of years ago are irrelevant today you idiot. If that is the case, get the fuck off of Native Indian land!

I am a Native Indian, you want to get the fuck off my land?

OHHHHH because there was a jewish genocide in Germany, means it is acceptable for them to ethnically cleanse(commit genocide)the Palestinians from their land????? You fucking stupid GOAT evangelicals!!! You are the most deceived of them all, but hey, the serpent has been deceiving from the very beginning! And who is the brood, sons of the serpent??? Think hard!!!!

The Jews haven't "ethnically cleansed" anyone, as far as I know. It is the faith of Islam which seeks to "run the Jews into the Mediterranean Sea." Since 1948, the Jews have endured one attack after another from terrorists, each day, their cities are subject to bombs and explosions which maim and kill innocent men, women and children. They've tried giving up land, moving settlements, signing one ceasefire treaty after another, only to be attacked again and again by Palestinian terrorists. It's not their land, it's never been their land, there has NEVER BEEN A PALESTINE NATION! EVER!

 

[Wise Old Man]

Regardless of what you want to call the land! It was inhabited and cultivated by a people that are NOT jewish!!!Who have more of a right to the land then some people that claim they had a kingdom there 2500 years ago.LOL

There were Jews living there before 1948. There is no such thing as "Squatter's Rights" in this case. You're an idiot.

 

[wiseones2cents]

There were Jews living there before 1948. There is no such thing as "Squatter's Rights" in this case. You're an idiot.

Tell me where Squatters Rights does not apply!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatters_rights

Purpose and moral basis

Adverse possession exists to cure potential or actual defects in real estate titles by putting a statute of limitations on possible litigation over ownership and possession.

Because of the doctrine of adverse possession, a landowner can be secure in title to his land. Otherwise, long-lost heirs of any former owner, possessor or lien holder of centuries past could come forward with a legal claim on the property. The doctrine of adverse possession prevents this.

This means the law may be used to reward a person who possesses the land of another for a requisite period of time. Failure of a landowner to exercise and defend his property rights for a certain period may result in the permanent loss of the landowner's interest in the property.

 

[wiseones2cents]

The Bible does not state this. You have misinterpreted the Scripture.

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

How much human concept of time passed between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2? Any idea? How about between Gen 1:2 and 1:3? Of course, you don't have an answer, because it doesn't say what amount of time transpired, in fact, it wasn't until the 5th verse we even had the concept of "days" in the story. There may have been billions of years that passed, God may have created billions of other things in that time, he may have created and destroyed dinosaurs. We don't know because The Bible doesn't say.

So any subsequent argument about timelines fall apart right here. There is no defined timeline, it is derived by people who mistranslated the Scripture, to draw conclusions that simply aren't presented.

Boy are you going to get smoked in a Scripture debate.lol

Haven't you ever heard GOD created the world(universe) in 6 days and on the 7th day rested?lol

Genesis 2:1-3

New American Standard Bible (NASB)
The Creation of Man and Woman

2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Then you can explain to us how there was water flowing without light(The sun).lol It would be a frozen block of ice!

Lots of stories in the Bible are laughable when you take them out of context and draw presumptions that aren't there. What's with all the "this probably happened, and that probably happened" stuff? Sounds like you are trying to logically explain something that was indeed possible. Doesn't sound like something laughable to me, sounds like something plausible, and you trying to explain it. A lot of the stories presented in the Bible are handed down through generations, told and retold, in a time when there wasn't television or photographs. In order for the teller of a story to make his/her point, a lot of 'flexibility' was given in how the story was told. I don't want to use the word 'embellished' because that denotes a bit of a 'tall tale' and I don't think it was that, as much as just the way stories were told. I think a lot of people on both 'sides', religious and anti-religious, make the mistake of interpreting Biblical stories literally, in every detail. There is a dramatic difference in how humans communicate today, versus thousands and thousands of years ago, before we had the ability to express thought and imagination with imagery, when the written or spoken word had to carry the drama and action of the story.

You are 1/2 correct. Of course they are, because they shouldn't be taken literally. They are legends and myths with some truth but heavily exaggerated! There is no talking donkey, there is no staffs that turned to snakes!!!

I don't want you to bother continuing to make a fool of yourself by misinterpreting the Scriptures.

I have been studying Scripture for years. It is I that will make a fool out of you. I have made Biblical scholars look like idiots.

I am a Native Indian, you want to get the fuck off my land?

Your the one that thinks Israel still has a claim to the land, not I!! Therefore why dont you tell your fellow Americans to get off your land? Oh ya. I forgot, you fought back and you lost that war.

The Jews haven't "ethnically cleansed" anyone, as far as I know. It is the faith of Islam which seeks to "run the Jews into the Mediterranean Sea." Since 1948, the Jews have endured one attack after another from terrorists, each day, their cities are subject to bombs and explosions which maim and kill innocent men, women and children. They've tried giving up land, moving settlements, signing one ceasefire treaty after another, only to be attacked again and again by Palestinian terrorists. It's not their land, it's never been their land, there has NEVER BEEN A PALESTINE NATION! EVER!

As far as you know? They killed close to 2 million Palestinians(mostly innocent civilians) and counting!!! You idiot! The jews and Muslims have enjoyed good relations for Millenniums. Who do you think was financing the Ottoman empire when the Jews were kicked out of Catholic Spain?

It has only been until they set up their state that the Muslims have all of a sudden turned on the jews. For the last 2 millenniums, it has been in fact the Christians that have hated the jews. Only recently, they have been put back on a pedestal by the evangelicals. Heck even Luther Martin could not stand the jews. How is that for a major flip flop?

What you call terrorists most call patriots fighting for their land against an occupier.

 

[Wise Old Man]

Tell me where Squatters Rights does not apply!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatters_rights

Purpose and moral basis

Adverse possession exists to cure potential or actual defects in real estate titles by putting a statute of limitations on possible litigation over ownership and possession.

Because of the doctrine of adverse possession, a landowner can be secure in title to his land. Otherwise, long-lost heirs of any former owner, possessor or lien holder of centuries past could come forward with a legal claim on the property. The doctrine of adverse possession prevents this.

This means the law may be used to reward a person who possesses the land of another for a requisite period of time. Failure of a landowner to exercise and defend his property rights for a certain period may result in the permanent loss of the landowner's interest in the property.

Wikipedia is for amateurs, pal. This is supposed to be an adult political debate board. Try again.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Wikipedia is for amateurs, pal. This is supposed to be an adult political debate board. Try again.

Nope. I verified everything. That is an amateur debating tactic of republicans. Discredit Wikipedia, even though most of the material is verified by scholars and historians. And references on the bottom of the page

 

[Wise Old Man]

Nope. I verified everything. That is an amateur debating tactic of republicans. Discredit Wikipedia, even though most of the material is verified by scholars and historians. And references on the bottom of the page

I'm not a republican so you can take down that straw man. Strawmen and wikipedia aren't going to cut it.

Israel is a Sovereign Nation. Get over it and stop the hate and murder.

 

[wiseones2cents]

I'm not a republican so you can take down that straw man. Strawmen and wikipedia aren't going to cut it.

Israel is a Sovereign Nation. Get over it and stop the hate and murder.

How about this idiot. Anyone with a grade 5 and up education is familiar with squatters rights, but I guess it is too difficult for you to grasp.lol

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Squatters+rights

 

[Wise Old Man]

How about this idiot. Anyone with a grade 5 and up education is familiar with squatters rights, but I guess it is too difficult for you to grasp.lol

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Squatters+rights

What about it, idiot? Good luck enforcing it. You live in la la land.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Boy are you going to get smoked in a Scripture debate.lol

Perhaps, but it won't be by you. lol

Haven't you ever heard GOD created the world(universe) in 6 days and on the 7th day rested?lol

Heard it a bunch, our argument isn't about what has been heard. Why didn't you answer my questions about Gen 1:1-5?

2 Peter 3:8
"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

Then you can explain to us how there was water flowing without light(The sun).lol It would be a frozen block of ice!

I don't have to explain how an omnipotent God did things, so that it makes sense to a mortal idiot. See, what you are attempting to do is make God a mortal being confined by mortal laws of physics, and then claim it is impossible for God to have done what he did. I agree, if God were a mortal person who had to conform to mortal laws of physics, it's impossible for God to do what he did. But God is omnipotent, nothing is impossible if you are omnipotent.

Also, there is no sunlight at the bottom of the ocean, why isn't it a solid block of ice?

You are 1/2 correct. Of course they are, because they shouldn't be taken literally. They are legends and myths with some truth but heavily exaggerated! There is no talking donkey, there is no staffs that turned to snakes!!!

No, I am 100% correct, and you've yet to refute a word I've said. Many of the stories in the Bible are presented to illustrate a moral, and not intended to be taken as an absolute literal. Kind of how we often use a 'hypothetical' story to make a point.

I have been studying Scripture for years. It is I that will make a fool out of you. I have made Biblical scholars look like idiots.

Well you keep saying it, but you've not made a fool of me yet. Is that going to be happening sometime soon? How about starting with Gen 1:1-5 and answering my earlier questions? How much time passed between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2? Come on, make me look like an idiot! Make a fool out of me! Answer my fucking questions!

Your the one that thinks Israel still has a claim to the land, not I!! Therefore why dont you tell your fellow Americans to get off your land? Oh ya. I forgot, you fought back and you lost that war.

Did you also forget who lost the war fought by Israel in 1967? You see, it doesn't matter if you go way back in history, or if you only accept modern history, either way, the land belongs to the Israelites, not Palestinians.

As far as you know? They killed close to 2 million Palestinians(mostly innocent civilians) and counting!!! You idiot! The jews and Muslims have enjoyed good relations for Millenniums. Who do you think was financing the Ottoman empire when the Jews were kicked out of Catholic Spain?

LMFAO... Wow, what a profoundly brilliant religious genius you are! Muslims and Jews have enjoyed good relations? WHEN????? And why the fuck do you keep saying things that happened in the past are completely irrelevant, then running to the past to support your points? Are you such an idiot that you don't even realize you keep doing this? Do you also have the uncontrollable urge to slap yourself in the head repeatedly?

It has only been until they set up their state that the Muslims have all of a sudden turned on the jews. For the last 2 millenniums, it has been in fact the Christians that have hated the jews. Only recently, they have been put back on a pedestal by the evangelicals. Heck even Luther Martin could not stand the jews. How is that for a major flip flop?

What you call terrorists most call patriots fighting for their land against an occupier.

No, most people call them terrorists and do not call the Jews occupiers. You're a Christian-hating piece of shit, so you've decided to accept propaganda from terrorists and believe that instead of the truth.

"Hate" is something forbidden in the Christian religion. Christians who exercise "hate" are destined to spend an eternity in hell for their sin, unless they find salvation.

 

[Wise Old Man]

How the heck can Israel be a sovereign state if they are unable to agree upon borders?lol How can you have a state with no official borders?LOL Fuck you stupid old man!

Israel is a Sovereign Nation. Go fuck yourself, loser.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Perhaps, but it won't be by you. lol

I wouldn't bet on it if I were you.lol

Heard it a bunch, our argument isn't about what has been heard. Why didn't you answer my questions about Gen 1:1-5?

2 Peter 3:8
"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

The only problem with that is that it is in the million and billions of years. ROTFLOL!!!!!! The point is that it DID show a definite timeline. 6 DAYS!!!

I don't have to explain how an omnipotent God did things, so that it makes sense to a mortal idiot. See, what you are attempting to do is make God a mortal being confined by mortal laws of physics, and then claim it is impossible for God to have done what he did. I agree, if God were a mortal person who had to conform to mortal laws of physics, it's impossible for God to do what he did. But God is omnipotent, nothing is impossible if you are omnipotent.

Also, there is no sunlight at the bottom of the ocean, why isn't it a solid block of ice?

ROTFLOL!!! That is the default excuse of fanatics when logic is presented.LOL YES YOU DO! I am here to solve the Mystery of GOD! And from what I have discovered is that the jewish leadership have taken mortal kings and equated them with GOD!

Here explain this to me. The Commandments that were given to Moses were given centuries earlier to Hammurabi. Ever hear of the Hammurabi code?lol I guess GOD visited the Babylonians before the Israelites.LOL

The ocean floor is not frozen because of hot water springs from beneath the ocean floor and of course, pressure from the weight. Kinetic energy.

No, I am 100% correct, and you've yet to refute a word I've said. Many of the stories in the Bible are presented to illustrate a moral, and not intended to be taken as an absolute literal. Kind of how we often use a 'hypothetical' story to make a point.

Yet you argue that the earth is 7000 years old.LOL Yet you argue that a donkey did speak and Moses turned his staff to a snake.lol

Well you keep saying it, but you've not made a fool of me yet. Is that going to be happening sometime soon? How about starting with Gen 1:1-5 and answering my earlier questions? How much time passed between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2? Come on, make me look like an idiot! Make a fool out of me! Answer my fucking questions!

I already told you. 6 days!!! LOL

Did you also forget who lost the war fought by Israel in 1967? You see, it doesn't matter if you go way back in history, or if you only accept modern history, either way, the land belongs to the Israelites, not Palestinians.

Israel is a counterfeit state. With no inheritance to the land. Not according to any legal law, nor Biblical law. The majority of Israelis are atheist jews from the USSR.

LMFAO... Wow, what a profoundly brilliant religious genius you are! Muslims and Jews have enjoyed good relations? WHEN????? And why the fuck do you keep saying things that happened in the past are completely irrelevant, then running to the past to support your points? Are you such an idiot that you don't even realize you keep doing this? Do you also have the uncontrollable urge to slap yourself in the head repeatedly?

See how you talk with your head up your ass? WHEN? Study history! I think this part of history is relevant to our discussion! The Christians have hated the jews for 2000 years and all of a sudden they have been put on a pedestal by Christians. Do you know why? The jewish elites who are of a synagogue of satan have corrupted Christianity.

"I do not fear the Illuminati taking over this United States and doing away the Constitution, because they took over this country long ago, and the Constitution has not technically been in effect due to Presidential emergency decrees since WWII (and before that, too). Don't think for a moment you are going to vote the Illuminati out of office. They control the major and minor political parties. They control the process of government, they control the process of information flow, they control the process of creating money, and finally they control Christendom."
- Fritz Springmeier

No, most people call them terrorists and do not call the Jews occupiers. You're a Christian-hating piece of shit, so you've decided to accept propaganda from terrorists and believe that instead of the truth.

"Hate" is something forbidden in the Christian religion. Christians who exercise "hate" are destined to spend an eternity in hell for their sin, unless they find salvation.

Not from the comments I have been reading!!! And I don't hate Christians. I AM a Christian. A true Christian. Not one of BLIND faith like you! Speaking the truth is not hate. I hate no one!

Jesus criticized the jewish leadership and called them brood of vipers/serpents. I guess Jesus was a Christian hater too according to your ridiculous logic!!!

 

[Wise Old Man]

I wouldn't bet on it if I were you.lol





The only problem with that is that it is in the million and billions of years. ROTFLOL!!!!!! The point is that it DID show a definite timeline. 6 DAYS!!!





ROTFLOL!!! That is the default excuse of fanatics when logic is presented.LOL YES YOU DO! I am here to solve the Mystery of GOD! And from what I have discovered is that the jewish leadership have taken mortal kings and equated them with GOD!

Here explain this to me. The Commandments that were given to Moses were given centuries earlier to Hammurabi. Ever hear of the Hammurabi code?lol I guess GOD visited the Babylonians before the Israelites.LOL

The ocean floor is not frozen because of hot water springs from beneath the ocean floor and of course, pressure from the weight. Kinetic energy.





Yet you argue that the earth is 7000 years old.LOL Yet you argue that a donkey did speak and Moses turned his staff to a snake.lol





I already told you. 6 days!!! LOL





Israel is a counterfeit state. With no inheritance to the land. Not according to any legal law, nor Biblical law. The majority of Israelis are atheist jews from the USSR.





See how you talk with your head up your ass? WHEN? Study history! I think this part of history is relevant to our discussion! The Christians have hated the jews for 2000 years and all of a sudden they have been put on a pedestal by Christians. Do you know why? The jewish elites who are of a synagogue of satan have corrupted Christianity.

"I do not fear the Illuminati taking over this United States and doing away the Constitution, because they took over this country long ago, and the Constitution has not technically been in effect due to Presidential emergency decrees since WWII (and before that, too). Don't think for a moment you are going to vote the Illuminati out of office. They control the major and minor political parties. They control the process of government, they control the process of information flow, they control the process of creating money, and finally they control Christendom."
- Fritz Springmeier






Not from the comments I have been reading!!! And I don't hate Christians. I AM a Christian. A true Christian. Not one of BLIND faith like you! Speaking the truth is not hate. I hate no one!

Jesus criticized the jewish leadership and called them brood of vipers/serpents. I guess Jesus was a Christian hater too according to your ridiculous logic!!!

The "Jewish leadership" you refer to were not Christians. You're in over your head, pal.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I wouldn't bet on it if I were you.lol

Oh, I'll bet on it. lol

The only problem with that is that it is in the million and billions of years. ROTFLOL!!!!!! The point is that it DID show a definite timeline. 6 DAYS!!!

Again.... you have failed to provide an answer to my question. Please do so now, so that we can move forward. How much human concept of time passed between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2? How much human concept of time passed before Gen 1:5, when God created "days?" Until you can conclusively answer, you have not defined a time line. SORRY!

ROTFLOL!!! That is the default excuse of fanatics when logic is presented.

It's not an excuse, it's what the Bible says, and that is supposed to be what we are arguing here. Remember? You were going to make a fool of me? Well you can't do that by claiming what is in the bible is an "excuse" and not what the bible says. That would be called, "making a fool of yourself" not me.

LOL YES YOU DO! I am here to solve the Mystery of GOD! And from what I have discovered is that the jewish leadership have taken mortal kings and equated them with GOD!

So are we arguing Jewish and Christian religion according to only what you say, and not the Bible? No wonder you believe you are winning this debate!

Here explain this to me. The Commandments that were given to Moses were given centuries earlier to Hammurabi. Ever hear of the Hammurabi code?lol I guess GOD visited the Babylonians before the Israelites.LOL

I'm not here to explain things to you, we're having a debate, and you have failed to answer my questions. I have no obligation to explain a damn thing until you start playing fairly and answer some of my questions. So go back to my question about Gen 1:1-5, and present a coherent answer, and then we shall move forward from there.

The ocean floor is not frozen because of hot water springs from beneath the ocean floor and of course, pressure from the weight. Kinetic energy.

So you admit that it's not physically impossible for water to flow, absent the presence of the sun? Also, the presence of an omnipotent God flowing over the still and dark waters, might prevent the water from freezing in the same way kinetic energy works. I do believe you have refuted your own failed point. Thanks, but I didn't need any help.

Yet you argue that the earth is 7000 years old.LOL Yet you argue that a donkey did speak and Moses turned his staff to a snake.lol

I've never argued any of those things.

I already told you. 6 days!!! LOL

Well, that is incorrect, because "days" weren't created until Gen 1:5. Try again!

Israel is a counterfeit state. With no inheritance to the land. Not according to any legal law, nor Biblical law. The majority of Israelis are atheist jews from the USSR.

Israel is a legitimate state, founded by the UN General Assembly in 1948. You are a full of shit propagandist and terrorist sympathizer.

 

[wiseones2cents]

The "Jewish leadership" you refer to were not Christians. You're in over your head, pal.

I've been told that before. I am in over my head.lol Please explain? Am I rattling the cage of the beast?lol I'm sure the gnashing of teeth has already begun.lol

I never said they were Christians. They were elites of Babylonian origin who hijacked religion. These elites have also infiltrated Christianity.