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In the aftermath of Barack Obama's victory over Mitt Romney in the presidential election, Newt Gingrich said it's time for the Republican party "to stop, take a deep breath and learn."
Gingrich reflected on the outcome of the contest during an appearance on NBC's "Today" on Monday.
The former House Speaker, who made a failed bid for the GOP presidential nomination earlier this year, said, "The president won an extraordinary victory. And the fact is we owe him the respect of trying to understand what they did and how they did it." He added, "But if you had said to me three weeks ago, Mitt Romney would get fewer votes than John McCain and it looks like he’ll be 2 million fewer, I would have been dumbfounded."
In a Politico op-ed published online on Monday, Gingrich wrote, "For the conservative movement and the Republican Party to succeed in the future (and while they are not identical the two are inextricably bound together) we will have to learn the lessons of 2012." He explained, "An intellectually honest and courageous Republican Party has nothing to fear from the current situation."
Asked on "Today" about what he wrote, Gingrich said, "The great thing about elections is they belong to the American people." He added, "I was wrong last week, as was virtually every major Republican analyst. And so, you have to stop and say to yourself, if I was that far off, what do I need to learn to better
 
I was actually hoping for more tears & denial, especially from Newt, but these are actually fairly thoughtful comments from him.

Personally, I prefer a robust 2 party (or even 3 party - one can dream) system, where the GOP isn't run by the fringe loonies, as they have been. The best thing that can come out of this election is a sincere re-evaluation of the party by its own members, and a real effort to adapt to the changing electorate.
 
Too many people vote on social issues though. Where is the middle on abortion or gay marriage?
 
The Dude said:
A third party in the middle of the two! For the 70 percent who think both sides are off the reservation.
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Exactly - it is high time.

Speaking of high, I read a great article on pot legalization today, which is an issue that really tugs at the soul of who the GOP was, and who they should strive to be. It's a wonderful issue for their identity; do they give in to their morally righteous extreme, or true up to their states rights/Federal-limiting roots?

Should be interesting to watch it play out.
 
cawacko said:
Too many people vote on social issues though. Where is the middle on abortion or gay marriage?
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I think purple America support both Roe remaining the law of the land, and trying to reduce the # of abortions. I also think civil unions is pretty widely accepted as an idea, and probably one that is needed before the country can make a full-on transition to gay marriage.
 
Thing1 said:
I think purple America support both Roe remaining the law of the land, and trying to reduce the # of abortions. I also think civil unions is pretty widely accepted as an idea, and probably one that is needed before the country can make a full-on transition to gay marriage.
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You'd be wrong on marriage equality...most people believe in parity not 'civil unions'...it's moving forward very quickly.
 
Thing1 said:
That'd be cool with me. But I think you're only right in certain sections of the country.
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Yeah the deep dark Southern states...however I think it won't be too very long that the SC will get involved and make it federal. Sometime in the future...in the mean time people in progressive states can get their laws changed. Those deep dark southern states always have to be dragged into the present, kicking and screaming!
 
cawacko said:
Too many people vote on social issues though. Where is the middle on abortion or gay marriage?
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Abortion? Leave it as is. The middle has been realised.

Gay marriage? Where is the middle on slavery? Some issues have no middle. Gays should be allowed to marry, period. They are human.
 
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