There Is No Future for the Republican Party

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The powerhouse super PAC contributions to both candidates went down on record as the largest money-ball race in history. Election time is Christmas at Wal-Mart for the corporate networks. You could probably buy a resort home in Hawaii for the cost of three presidential prime time campaign ads.

The question is did all that money influence voters? Let’s just say that corporate money doesn’t have quite the power of persuasion the oligarchs thought it would have. Arguably, the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United rulingis eroding our democracy. Nevertheless, Americans are pretty good at seeing through deceptive political ads such as the blatantly false and sleazy Romney ad that accused President Obama of shipping Jeep Chrysler jobs to China.

This 2012 election proved a few encouraging lessons: that Democrats who are enormously outspent by their Republican opponents can still win elections. So what’s a sold-out industrial Republican to do in light of this revelation? “Independent conservative groups are going to have to come to terms with the fact that they spent more than $700 million -- 70 percent of all of the reported independent spending in the 2012 election -- and walked away with little to show for it.” (Paul Blumenthal, HuffingtonPost.com)

Why do they have little to show for it? As discussed by MSNBC’s political team and acknowledged even at FOXTV, the Republican Party is a shrinking dinosaur party of old white male racists (my words) who are directly clashing with the new voting demographics across America.
Should it surprise anyone except Mitt Romney that they lost? Consider the following issues that cannot be easily dismissed with stacks of dirty money:

1. The Middle Class Economy Factor
2. The Ron Paul Factor (end the wars and defense spending)
3. Corporate tax welfare Factor
4. The Global Warming Factor
5. The Diversity Factor
6. The Women’s Rights Factor
7. The Obama Health Care Factor

First, Americans rejected Romney’s idea of jobs for Americans i.e. third world sweat shop jobs with no unions, no benefits, low wages, no regulations on poor working conditions and policies that would allow industrialists to pollute ad infinitum with impunity.

Second, Americans, including the Ron Paul voters, rejected more unnecessary defense spending for expansion of wars. Thus Romney’s promise to increase defense spending by $two trillion dollars, when the nation’s debt primarily grew out of Bush’s wars, was met with disapproval.

Third, Americans reject corporate welfare tax benefits for millionaires and billionaires at the expense of public social service jobs and programs (veteran benefits, schools, hospitals, post offices, fire and police, infrastructure, college grants, etc) a plan that Romney embraced and behind closed doors expressed with his infamous “47% are victims” remark.

Fourth: Romney underestimated Americans’ genuine fears over global warming. Hurricane Sandy made a mockery of Romney’s RNC speech that “Obama wants to heal the planet and stop rising sea levels.” Campaigning for Big Oil & Coal and threatening to end all green energy progress when we’re facing extreme climate change disasters did more damage to Romney than he could possibly know.

Fifth: Younger generations from a growing diversity of ethnic backgrounds, including the gay community, cannot relate to Romney’s Pleasantville elitist-segregated-golf club-society, if Republicans haven’t noticed. They haven’t. Hence, there is no future for the Republican Party.

Sixth: This is not the 1940s. The issue of contraceptives and abortion rights are “dated”; we’ve won those battles, it’s 2012.

Seventh: Middle-class Americans definitely appreciate affordable options for health care coverage; they don’t want Paul Ryan vouchers to replace their Medicare. In short, they don’t want Obama Care repealed.

You add it all up together and no amount of money can change these basic, common sense concerns. Furthermore, contrast the rich diversity of individuals at the Obama camp with the pale faced suits at the Romney camp and you’ll get the picture of a shrinking, aging Republican Party that’s out of touch with reality, “…nothing’s gonna change my world…” could be their theme song.

As for a farewell song to Mitt Romney, perhaps “The fool on the hill…” would be an appropriate selection. Arrogant right up to the end, blinded by ambitious greed, Romney was his own worst enemy.

Day after day,
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,

But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning 'round…


By ACQUELINE MARCUS

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good lord

you and desh are liberal bobble heads

you said the same thing in 2008 and the gop took over the house in 2010 and again in 2012

but, like evince, you will ignore facts and reality
 
The powerhouse super PAC contributions to both candidates went down on record as the largest money-ball race in history. Election time is Christmas at Wal-Mart for the corporate networks. You could probably buy a resort home in Hawaii for the cost of three presidential prime time campaign ads.

The question is did all that money influence voters? Let’s just say that corporate money doesn’t have quite the power of persuasion the oligarchs thought it would have. Arguably, the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United rulingis eroding our democracy. Nevertheless, Americans are pretty good at seeing through deceptive political ads such as the blatantly false and sleazy Romney ad that accused President Obama of shipping Jeep Chrysler jobs to China.

This 2012 election proved a few encouraging lessons: that Democrats who are enormously outspent by their Republican opponents can still win elections. So what’s a sold-out industrial Republican to do in light of this revelation? “Independent conservative groups are going to have to come to terms with the fact that they spent more than $700 million -- 70 percent of all of the reported independent spending in the 2012 election -- and walked away with little to show for it.” (Paul Blumenthal, HuffingtonPost.com)

Why do they have little to show for it? As discussed by MSNBC’s political team and acknowledged even at FOXTV, the Republican Party is a shrinking dinosaur party of old white male racists (my words) who are directly clashing with the new voting demographics across America.
Should it surprise anyone except Mitt Romney that they lost? Consider the following issues that cannot be easily dismissed with stacks of dirty money:

1. The Middle Class Economy Factor
2. The Ron Paul Factor (end the wars and defense spending)
3. Corporate tax welfare Factor
4. The Global Warming Factor
5. The Diversity Factor
6. The Women’s Rights Factor
7. The Obama Health Care Factor

First, Americans rejected Romney’s idea of jobs for Americans i.e. third world sweat shop jobs with no unions, no benefits, low wages, no regulations on poor working conditions and policies that would allow industrialists to pollute ad infinitum with impunity.

Second, Americans, including the Ron Paul voters, rejected more unnecessary defense spending for expansion of wars. Thus Romney’s promise to increase defense spending by $two trillion dollars, when the nation’s debt primarily grew out of Bush’s wars, was met with disapproval.

Third, Americans reject corporate welfare tax benefits for millionaires and billionaires at the expense of public social service jobs and programs (veteran benefits, schools, hospitals, post offices, fire and police, infrastructure, college grants, etc) a plan that Romney embraced and behind closed doors expressed with his infamous “47% are victims” remark.

Fourth: Romney underestimated Americans’ genuine fears over global warming. Hurricane Sandy made a mockery of Romney’s RNC speech that “Obama wants to heal the planet and stop rising sea levels.” Campaigning for Big Oil & Coal and threatening to end all green energy progress when we’re facing extreme climate change disasters did more damage to Romney than he could possibly know.

Fifth: Younger generations from a growing diversity of ethnic backgrounds, including the gay community, cannot relate to Romney’s Pleasantville elitist-segregated-golf club-society, if Republicans haven’t noticed. They haven’t. Hence, there is no future for the Republican Party.

Sixth: This is not the 1940s. The issue of contraceptives and abortion rights are “dated”; we’ve won those battles, it’s 2012.

Seventh: Middle-class Americans definitely appreciate affordable options for health care coverage; they don’t want Paul Ryan vouchers to replace their Medicare. In short, they don’t want Obama Care repealed.

You add it all up together and no amount of money can change these basic, common sense concerns. Furthermore, contrast the rich diversity of individuals at the Obama camp with the pale faced suits at the Romney camp and you’ll get the picture of a shrinking, aging Republican Party that’s out of touch with reality, “…nothing’s gonna change my world…” could be their theme song.

As for a farewell song to Mitt Romney, perhaps “The fool on the hill…” would be an appropriate selection. Arrogant right up to the end, blinded by ambitious greed, Romney was his own worst enemy.

Day after day,
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,

But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning 'round…


By ACQUELINE MARCUS

pigboy-end-gop-promise_n.jpg


bitch-20120-fail_n.jpg

All of which would be fascinating if Obama had won by 80% or even 65%, but really he just squeaked past because of a few really dumb republican positions. If they had a better image and a few more moderate positions, Obama would probably be out of a job.

Mountain out of molehill.
 
Bullshit. The votes are still being counted and democrats won big! BIG! The mountain of bullshit had an avalanche!!
 
Bullshit. The votes are still being counted and democrats won big! BIG! The mountain of bullshit had an avalanche!!
Winning big is over 60, unless the votes come back that way, Obama won big the first time, you know when he had some credibility. Now Romney lost and Obama was just the only other choice.
 
Ken,

Assuming the bullshit you spout is even remotely descriptive of reality, what's your solution? A single-party state? No checks on party power whatsoever?
 
The solution is 4 utterly disastrous years between now and election day 2016. The GOP candidate can have his PACs run around asking "Had Enough Yet?" and label his opponent as Obama II and McSame...
 
So then this will end the attempts to limit speech? I could have told you the money was not going to make that big of a difference.

The ads will have even less influence going forward. I barely noticed any as I watch most of my TV on the internet.

You have to have some modest amount of money but the returns diminish quickly based on the message.
 
All of which would be fascinating if Obama had won by 80% or even 65%, but really he just squeaked past because of a few really dumb republican positions. If they had a better image and a few more moderate positions, Obama would probably be out of a job.

Mountain out of molehill.

But he seemed to think he could not take those more moderate positions? Why is that?
 
Ken,

Assuming the bullshit you spout is even remotely descriptive of reality, what's your solution? A single-party state? No checks on party power whatsoever?

I hate to say this but one solution is to have what we call, 'Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition'. In your case it would be the US Loyal Opposition. The opposition party literally shadows the ruling party, discussing (when they are well behaved) policy by policy, mistake by mistake. In the unlikely even that schoolboy David's government lost all credibility (what am I saying here?) the opposition could take over immediately.
But, I would suggest that 'Republicanism' as demonstrated recently is dead and the last shovelful of soil is, even now, clattering onto the wooden lid. But opposition is needed. That opposition might be called anything but it's function should be to analyse and debate all policies put forward by the incumbent government, but not to stand in the way of progress. Not, like whining babies, to swear that this president will be a one term president.(Too late for that)
There should be a third party, quite seperate from the others. It should consist of Palin and her foolish friends. It should be called the 'Loony' party (why pretend to be what it is not) and should be centred on one of the Aleutian Islands and banned from mainland America,
 
I hate to say this but one solution is to have what we call, 'Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition'. In your case it would be the US Loyal Opposition. The opposition party literally shadows the ruling party, discussing (when they are well behaved) policy by policy, mistake by mistake. In the unlikely even that schoolboy David's government lost all credibility (what am I saying here?) the opposition could take over immediately.
But, I would suggest that 'Republicanism' as demonstrated recently is dead and the last shovelful of soil is, even now, clattering onto the wooden lid. But opposition is needed. That opposition might be called anything but it's function should be to analyse and debate all policies put forward by the incumbent government, but not to stand in the way of progress. Not, like whining babies, to swear that this president will be a one term president.(Too late for that)
There should be a third party, quite seperate from the others. It should consist of Palin and her foolish friends. It should be called the 'Loony' party (why pretend to be what it is not) and should be centred on one of the Aleutian Islands and banned from mainland America,

We removed all traces of your stupid government, when we kicked your asses out during our war of independence.
And then it seems that we started a groundswell and other countries kicked your ass out also.

Once again, you are the once great Great Britian.
You are of no consequence; Deal with it.
 
We removed all traces of your stupid government, when we kicked your asses out during our war of independence.
And then it seems that we started a groundswell and other countries kicked your ass out also.

Once again, you are the once great Great Britian.
You are of no consequence; Deal with it.

Please note it is Britain not Britian, just saying. I bet you would be pissed off if I said you lived in Arisona!!
 
I don't know how you can count out a major party in the US. The Democratic Party survived losing the Civil War, while the Republican Party survived being blamed for the Great Depression. The Democratic Party survived the presidency of LBJ, while the Republican Party survived the presidency of Richard Nixon. It's almost impossible to destroy a major political party here. Even when the Federalist Party disappeared, its adherents just moved into a wing of the Democratic-Republican Party that became known as the National Republican Party for an election cycle, before rebranding itself the Whig Party, which eventually disbanded and merged into the Republican Party.
 
I don't know how you can count out a major party in the US. The Democratic Party survived losing the Civil War, while the Republican Party survived being blamed for the Great Depression. The Democratic Party survived the presidency of LBJ, while the Republican Party survived the presidency of Richard Nixon. It's almost impossible to destroy a major political party here. Even when the Federalist Party disappeared, its adherents just moved into a wing of the Democratic-Republican Party that became known as the National Republican Party for an election cycle, before rebranding itself the Whig Party, which eventually disbanded and merged into the Republican Party.

I would not be surprised to see your Democratic party move slightly to the left as more and more Americans see the sense of some of the policies they have fought against for so long. If the Republican party continues its path to the right there should be room for a centerist party. The Reps will shrink in size and be more akin to the far right of France under Le Penn and the BNP in the UK.
The could be a name change with the centerists taking the Republican label and the far right becoming something like 'The America First' party.
On the other hand - it might not.
 
All of which would be fascinating if Obama had won by 80% or even 65%, but really he just squeaked past because of a few really dumb republican positions. If they had a better image and a few more moderate positions, Obama would probably be out of a job.

Mountain out of molehill.

Are you retarded right now? The incumbent won is a shit economy. duh.
 
So then this will end the attempts to limit speech? I could have told you the money was not going to make that big of a difference.

The ads will have even less influence going forward. I barely noticed any as I watch most of my TV on the internet.

You have to have some modest amount of money but the returns diminish quickly based on the message.

The adds actually had huge impact. Note the GOP still controlls the house against all logic.
 
I would not be surprised to see your Democratic party move slightly to the left as more and more Americans see the sense of some of the policies they have fought against for so long. If the Republican party continues its path to the right there should be room for a centerist party. The Reps will shrink in size and be more akin to the far right of France under Le Penn and the BNP in the UK.
The could be a name change with the centerists taking the Republican label and the far right becoming something like 'The America First' party.
On the other hand - it might not.

I think that a lot depends on the Affordable Care Act and whether it ends up actually being affordable.
 
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