Post ITT if your voting record sucked last night

Rune said:
Yes, I meant state sanctioned.

Please, before you drag this out too far, look at the wording of the question.
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I was trying to get your input, because I do not understand why people object to doctor assisted suicide (voluntary that is)
 
Rune said:
Maybe I watched Logan's Run too many times as a teenager? Did you support Jack Kervorkian?
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Logans run? LMAO.... I am talking about voluntary, not mandatory. There is a huge difference.

as for Kervorkian.. yes... I supported why he did what he did, but not the fact that he did it while it was illegal to do so.
 
Superfreak said:
Logans run? LMAO.... I am talking about voluntary, not mandatory. There is a huge difference.

as for Kervorkian.. yes... I supported why he did what he did, but not the fact that he did it while it was illegal to do so.
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You don't seem to understand the concept of a slippery slope.
 
Rune said:
Actually, this article addresses my concerns even more succinctly. I am surprised one as purportedly smart as SF would have such a simplistic view of this issue.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9654884/Mo-Mowlams-doctor-condemns-Liverpool-Care-Pathway.html
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I am not surprised one bit that you cannot comprehend what has been stated.

AGAIN... I am saying I support it IF IT IS VOLUNTARY. IF THE PATIENT SAYS THEY WANT IT. I do not support involuntary measures where it is a doctor or government system dictating when it is done.
 
Rune said:
You don't seem to understand the concept of a slippery slope.
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LOL... this is quite comical. You support abortion because you think a woman has the right to do what she wants with her body (and the body of the child within her), yet you don't think someone who is in severe pain without prospects of a cure has the right to do what they want with their body.

It is not a slippery slope either. Either the patient is able to state they want it, in which case they should be able to or the patient is not able to make the call, in which case that option is off the table. No one other than the individual in question should be able to make the call.
 
Superfreak said:
I am not surprised one bit that you cannot comprehend what has been stated.

AGAIN... I am saying I support it IF IT IS VOLUNTARY. IF THE PATIENT SAYS THEY WANT IT. I do not support involuntary measures where it is a doctor or government system dictating when it is done.
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Yes
I get that. Again do you understand the slippery slope concept?
Opening this door with "vountary" measures opens the door to involuntary measures.

It is not a risk I am willing to take.

Read the links to see why.
 
Damn! Johnson did not win.
Must have been a hanging chad thing?

yeah I know I was gonna write in myself but it was too much trouble.
And was gonna cost me $50 to have it counted as a vote.
 
Rune said:
Yes
I get that. Again do you understand the slippery slope concept?
Opening this door with "vountary" measures opens the door to involuntary measures.

It is not a risk I am willing to take.

Read the links to see why.
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No, it does not open the door to involuntary.
 
Superfreak said:
No, it does not open the door to involuntary.
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Of course it does Simplefreak.

Without voluntary euthanasia being legal, involuntary is off the table.

With it legal, every single case becomes a judgement call.

Christ you are more liberal in a bad way than I am.
 
President - Lost
US Representative - Lost (to a republican)
State Senator - Won (over a republican)
Sherrif - Lost (to a democrat)
State questions - 1/7 went the way I voted
 
Dungheap said:
President - Won
Senator - Won
Congress - Won
State Senate - Won
State House - Won
Ballot Questions - 2 out of 3

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i can't believe the euthanasia one lost. Thought it would pass.
 
Superfreak said:
LOL... this is quite comical. You support abortion because you think a woman has the right to do what she wants with her body (and the body of the child within her), yet you don't think someone who is in severe pain without prospects of a cure has the right to do what they want with their body.

It is not a slippery slope either. Either the patient is able to state they want it, in which case they should be able to or the patient is not able to make the call, in which case that option is off the table. No one other than the individual in question should be able to make the call.
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How do you cater for the situation where the relatives put pressure on the patient to end their life?
 
Superfreak said:
LOL... this is quite comical. You support abortion because you think a woman has the right to do what she wants with her body (and the body of the child within her), yet you don't think someone who is in severe pain without prospects of a cure has the right to do what they want with their body.

It is not a slippery slope either. Either the patient is able to state they want it, in which case they should be able to or the patient is not able to make the call, in which case that option is off the table. No one other than the individual in question should be able to make the call.
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1. Show where I support abortion.
2. Read the links. You don't seem to get it.
3. I provided a few additional links to help with your missing insights.
 
Rune said:
Of course it does Simplefreak.

Without voluntary euthanasia being legal, involuntary is off the table.

With it legal, every single case becomes a judgement call.

Christ you are more liberal in a bad way than I am.
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No, it does not. Involuntary is a separate issue and is still off the table if you say voluntary only.
 
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