Official Debate Thread Round III

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PostmodernProphet said:
First, it is not against the rules on this board, it happens a lot...
Second, I didn't change your post, merely deleted the parts I wasn't commenting on....
Third, he's the guy you accused of roadblocking Obama's foreign policy, even though he wasn't even in Congress during Obama's administration....
Fourth, I know who he is because he was my congressman until he stepped down to run for governor against Granholm and currently is running for senator against Stabenow......
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You left off the last one:
Fifth, You're an American who knows what you're talkng about; instead of just a whiny little bitch of a British used-to-be.
 
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Q _ Q said:
i would make it so only tax payers can vote. It implies you are a productive member of society, you contribute not only based on your actual job, but money is being taken from you and used to fund our military, our schools, build bridges and roads, pay for the police and firefighters, and support our communities. Tax payers actually have a real stake in the country.

No one that doesn't pay taxes should have the same voice as one that does.
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Who doesn't pay taxes?

Be specific.
 
TheRocketSurgeon said:
I don't care what you think liberals think. RCP is suspect because they give pollsters like Gravis Marketing (which I already showed was nothing but a joke with biased and questionable managment) an even weight with actual polling agencies. But even there Romney is behind where it matters, in electoral votes. The popular vote is important to pinheads and partisan hacks trying to influence pinheads.
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Q _ Q said:
i would make it so only tax payers can vote. It implies you are a productive member of society, you contribute not only based on your actual job, but money is being taken from you and used to fund our military, our schools, build bridges and roads, pay for the police and firefighters, and support our communities. Tax payers actually have a real stake in the country.

No one that doesn't pay taxes should have the same voice as one that does.
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I like the plan laid out by economics professor, Walter E. Williams; He says we should get votes based on how much tax we pay. For instance, everyone would get their normal one vote, just for being an American. But people who paid, say $2,500 in income tax, would get a second vote, and if you paid over $10k, a third, and so on. Perhaps someone who paid $2-3 million in taxes, would get 10 votes?

I proposed this once here, and pinheads quickly proclaimed it "insane" and were shocked I would even dare to mention such a thing, but think about it... Isn't that how we run corporations all across America? The shareholders with the most shares, get the most votes. I think we'd see a dramatic difference in our government and how it's run, if we ran it like a corporation. We likely wouldn't be in the debt crisis we are in, and there would never be any problem with people avoiding taxation, in fact, we'd probably have to insure that taxes paid were actually owed, and not just paid so they could get extra votes.

In any event, this will certainly never come to fruition, but it's fun to toss out there and watch liberal heads explode!
 
Dixie said:
I like the plan laid out by economics professor, Walter E. Williams; He says we should get votes based on how much tax we pay.
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That's been obvious for some time, although you pretend it's a joke.

Ever hear of the US Constitution? It's that document that conservatives claim to be fending all the time.

What does it say about voting rights?
 
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That's been obvious for some time, although you pretend it's a joke.

Ever hear of the US Constitution? It's that document that conservatives claim to be fending all the time.

What does it say about voting rights?
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As Dr. Williams points out, every American would get a vote for being an American citizen. That satisfies the Constitutionality issue.

Besides, our plan is so much better than dead people, pets, and libtards with no ID voting multiple times.
 
Dixie said:
As Dr. Williams points out, every American would get a vote for being an American citizen. That satisfies the Constitutionality issue. Besides, our plan is so much better than dead people, pets, and libtards with no ID voting multiple times.
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So you claim the Constitution allows multiple votes based on the amount of tax dollars a person pays?
 
Dixie said:
Well I happen to like both policies, and support them wholeheartedly. I don't think either on is "nuts" and I think most republicans and conservatives agree. So, like I said, you're not a very good measure of what most people think. Romney avoided Benghazi because, again, his criteria for a win was different than Obama's, he needed to stay "above the fray" and politicizing the tragedy at Benghazi would have been a huge mistake in that regard.
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LOL, noowwww, it's wrong to politicize it, huh? When did you receive that talking point? I told you all along it was a loser.

You are not a very good measure of what anyone thinks outside of the retirment home and .... rallies.
 
Dixie said:
Did I say that? Then I that's not what I claimed, is it?
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Dixie said:
...everyone would get their normal one vote, just for being an American. But people who paid, say $2,500 in income tax, would get a second vote, and if you paid over $10k, a third, and so on. Perhaps someone who paid $2-3 million in taxes, would get 10 votes...
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Dixie said:
As Dr. Williams points out, every American would get a vote for being an American citizen. That satisfies the Constitutionality issue.
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Dixie said:
Tell me, James Madison, what exactly DOES the Constitution say about voting?
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So you admit you don't know, which means your statement above was not based on your knowledge of the Constitution.
 
TheRocketSurgeon said:
LOL, noowwww, it's wrong to politicize it, huh? When did you receive that talking point? I told you all along it was a loser.

You are not a very good measure of what anyone thinks outside of the retirment home and .... rallies.
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What's been said about Benghazi has been said, and there was absolutely no reason to say it again last night. It's not a "loser" it speaks volumes about this administration's incompetence and failure to respond to dangers around the world. But the informed public are aware of what happened now, and Romney didn't need to 'go negative' by pointing that out. Again, Romney had a completely different agenda than Obama, and had to do something entirely different to win the debate. I think he succeeded in that, and Obama failed.

You, the liberals, and even some conservatives, are measuring the debate in terms of how many "zingers" were made, and you think Obama came out ahead, but Romney wasn't there to zing Obama. It's kind of like if we had the Olympic swim team competing against the Dallas Cowboys, and you assume the game both are playing is Football. Looking at it like that, you see Obama winning, but that wasn't the game being played by Romney. He did exactly what he intended and needed to do, and in my opinion, Obama FAILED to do what he needed to do... which was to knock Romney off message, make him go negative and appear unhinged or hot-headed. Obama tried really hard, he threw everything he had at Romney, and even though some of us conservatives were livid at Romney not going after red meat, the man remained above the fray and looked very presidential... that was ALL he needed to do to win, and he did.
 
Dixie said:
Sorry, but I did not admit any such thing, I asked you, Mr. Information, to give us an explanation. You apparently can't.
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"Us"?

Who is "us"? Is there more than one Dix?

You asked me to explain what the Constitution says about voting after you posited that allowing one vote per citizen would satisfy "the constitutionality issue".

Then you doubled down by saying how much you like the idea of giving additional votes to rich people based on the dollar amount they pay in taxes.

You don't know what the Constitution says about voting, do you?

That would explain why you asked me.

Why deny it?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
First, it is not against the rules on this board, it happens a lot...
Second, I didn't change your post, merely deleted the parts I wasn't commenting on....
Third, he's the guy you accused of roadblocking Obama's foreign policy, even though he wasn't even in Congress during Obama's administration....
Fourth, I know who he is because he was my congressman until he stepped down to run for governor against Granholm and currently is running for senator against Stabenow......
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He is listed, in an American publication, as one of the conspiritors who met on the day of Obama's inauguration to discuss ways of crippling his presidency. I have never heard of any of them and I don't care to. My point was that the Republican party, and in particular its far right wing, is guilty of attempting to undermine and destroy the legally constituted government of your country. Treason I would suggest.
 
Lowaicue said:
He is listed, in an American publication, as one of the conspiritors who met on the day of Obama's inauguration to discuss ways of crippling his presidency. I have never heard of any of them and I don't care to. My point was that the Republican party, and in particular its far right wing, is guilty of attempting to undermine and destroy the legally constituted government of your country. Treason I would suggest.
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I would suggest that you consider exclusively infesting Chinese chat boards if you despise America and Americans that much.

Your festering hate is evident.

I certainly do not frequent internet forums in the UK and slam the inhabitants of that sorry soggy little tourist trap.

Why do Brit-shits think Americans care for their constant whinging?
 
News has been full of videos of Romney walking on the beach surrounded by security men! Jeez you yanks! I was wondering if he was looking for a way into Iran without going through Syria!
 
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I would suggest that you consider exclusively infesting Chinese chat boards if you despise America and Americans that much.

Your festering hate is evident.

I certainly do not frequent internet forums in the UK and slam the inhabitants of that sorry soggy little tourist trap.

Why do Brit-shits think Americans care for their constant whinging?
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Festering hate?? LOL. You get more fucking stupid by the day.
 
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