USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
I was watching CNN's comments and James Carville acts like he wants to be Obama's love slave.
I was watching CNN's comments and James Carville acts like he wants to be Obama's love slave.
Obama won the debate on the merits. I think few people are debating that at this point.
But we have talked about this again and again, that winning on the merits doesn't necessarily translate to gaining votes.
I think romney did a cost benefit analysis before going into this debate, which would have followed this logic:
1) Americans ultimately rank foreign policy as one of their least important issues for this election
2) If romney wins the debate on foreign policy . . . so what? No one cares about foreign policy anyway, however;
3) If he comes off as hawkish, or a warmonger, or a "scary iran bomber" that could drastically hurt him with women and independent voters.
4) Solution: agree with the president on 80% of what he says. Try not to fuck up and don't look crazy. What is the president going to do? Blast him on foreign policy in attack ads over issues that don't register with american voters anyway? Nope. The president can't even go after him that hard on this because he would just be wasting money on something Americans don't care about.
So now we come away with the more broader implications of this debate.
1) Who looked more presidential?
2) Who looks like a strong leader?
3) Who are you more likely to vote for?
These are the results of CNN polling those that watched the debate tonight:
On the question of Can You be Commander in Chief?:
Obama: 63% yes, 36% no.
Romney: 60% yes, 38% no.
Which candidate is more likeable?
Obama: 48%
Romney: 47%
Who are you more likely to vote for?
Obama: 24%
Romney: 25%
No change: 50% (LOL)
But we have talked about this again and again, that winning on the merits doesn't necessarily translate to gaining votes.
I think romney did a cost benefit analysis before going into this debate, which would have followed this logic:
1) Americans ultimately rank foreign policy as one of their least important issues for this election
2) If romney wins the debate on foreign policy . . . so what? No one cares about foreign policy anyway, however;
3) If he comes off as hawkish, or a warmonger, or a "scary iran bomber" that could drastically hurt him with women and independent voters.
4) Solution: agree with the president on 80% of what he says. Try not to fuck up and don't look crazy. What is the president going to do? Blast him on foreign policy in attack ads over issues that don't register with american voters anyway? Nope. The president can't even go after him that hard on this because he would just be wasting money on something Americans don't care about.
So now we come away with the more broader implications of this debate.
1) Who looked more presidential?
2) Who looks like a strong leader?
3) Who are you more likely to vote for?
These are the results of CNN polling those that watched the debate tonight:
On the question of Can You be Commander in Chief?:
Obama: 63% yes, 36% no.
Romney: 60% yes, 38% no.
Which candidate is more likeable?
Obama: 48%
Romney: 47%
Who are you more likely to vote for?
Obama: 24%
Romney: 25%
No change: 50% (LOL)
You are clearly delusional. Romney is still behind.
because you are socialist america haters and jealous of us.
Which is exactly why I point out the comments about Ahmadinejad and China. Once more people start talking about his comments those will hurt. Both statements are just nuts and he is trying to tone it down. He can't afford to keep etch a sketching either. The apology tour stuff will also be discredited again.
Obama is now going to go to work on showing Romney has no real plan and is not a serious candidate. He has plenty with which to work.
they are basically tied on able to be commander in chief, they are tied on likeability, and there are only 2 weeks left in the campaign. And on top of it all, americans don't care about foreign policy as a electoral issue in comparison to the economy, jobs, and taxes.
Lowaicue
英語在香港
If the entire world hates you it is time you understood that you are doing something wrong.
Oh, and please believe this, there is very little that you have or are that makes the rest of the world jealous of you.
You have compromised your freedom.
You remain the most arrogant people on earth.
You invented but no longer understand the concept of marketing.
You are poorly educated.
You believe in fairies,
It is difficult to start a business.
Too many of you are poor.
Millions on food stamps.
No proper health service.
Kill prisoners.
kill school children.
No. Not much to be jealous of.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
We should just elect whoever the world dislikes. That will guarantee our success.
no, maybe we just have different values. For instance, we like our country and aren't socialist takers like you guys are.
you are definitely jealous. look how insecure you are when I say a quick quip about it. If Albania or some other shitty country said America was jealous of them I would probably chuckle for 2 seconds and go about my day. But when we say it to you, it reallllly rustles your jimmies. It gets under your skin because you know it's true
Haha, you are about to cry now . . this is great. ;_;
I love killing prisoners.
Kill school children? Yes we have an american epidemic of school children always being killed. Holy potatoes what a strawman
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Are you so dense that you're unable to understand that we don't give a rat's ass, about what YOU think.
Now, go think about the past days of the Once Great Britian.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
What's caused Obama to look so "pale"?
Lowaicue
英語在香港
no, maybe we just have different values. For instance, we like our country and aren't socialist takers like you guys are.
you are definitely jealous. look how insecure you are when I say a quick quip about it. If Albania or some other shitty country said America was jealous of them I would probably chuckle for 2 seconds and go about my day. But when we say it to you, it reallllly rustles your jimmies. It gets under your skin because you know it's true
Haha, you are about to cry now . . this is great. ;_;
I love killing prisoners.
Kill school children? Yes we have an american epidemic of school children always being killed. Holy potatoes what a strawman
You, honestly, have absolutely no idea of what a socialist is nor have you the vaguest understanding of how important to your welfare are the countries that Obama has convinced not to cast you onto the waste tip of history, which is where you were heading under bush, cheney, rumsfeld and the farcical Project for the New American century.
It's being so thick that makes you the butt (in all its meanings) of humour world wide.
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
The same reason most mom and pop businesses in a given town "hates" Walmart. When a Republican is president, it generally means huge economic growth and prosperity for the US, which in turn, means the US gets a bigger piece of the worldwide economic pie... other countries want their usual portion of pie, therefore, they support the non-republican candidate.
The thing you should ask yourself is, why in the living fuck would we give two shits what other countries think or who they support?
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
Not according to Real Clear Politics, which is the Liberals "preferred" choice in polling data.
Obama trails Romney, who is trending upward over the past week. Where have you been?
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
I notice you didn't bother to specify what his comments were and why they were "just nuts" and instead, just interjected your opinion without debate on that subject. Guess what, BOZO, the country doesn't all think and act like you, and doesn't share your fucked up opinion the majority of the time. So you're probably just flat out wrong, as usual... but we can't confirm that because you didn't bother to specify what you thought was nuts.
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
I'll debate it, because it isn't true.
What the hell does that even mean? Merit? Is that "code word" for he lied more than the other guy did? If that's the case, he won on merit! No moron, Obama didn't "WIN" any goddamn thing. You can think that if you like, or you can say that if you think it consoles the pinhead masses to hear it, but it's just not the reality of the situation.
There is no "winning on merit" and it doesn't matter because the purpose and objective is to gain VOTES! THAT IS THE ONLY "MERIT!"
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
There was no "cost benefit analysis" here, it's like I explained earlier, you had two candidates who both had to do completely different things to "WIN" the debate. You're using a simple-minded analysis, presuming they had to both do the same thing to win... score "merit" points, or whatever. And you somehow think Obama scored more of these "merit" points than Romney, who was somewhat subdued.
Obama LIED his ass off, all the way through the debates. CNN has already called him out on some of his whoppers... CNN! In my book, if you stand up there in front of the American people and just fucking tell one lie after another, that isn't scoring "merit" points, that's burying yourself politically. But Obama didn't have a choice, his criteria for winning the debate was to humiliate Romney, and he FAILED to do that. He tried! He pulled out all the stops, he sneered, snarked, and looked like a petulant teenager, not an incumbent president. Romney's criteria for a win was much less difficult, he merely had to present himself honorably, and make a good impression. He did that, in spades. He didn't get tricked into attacking Obama, he didn't take to the gutter, he remained above the fray and looked very presidential. HE WON... hands down! Because he did what he needed to do better than Obama, who FAILED.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That may be true Grind but that's a shame and it shows a lack of understanding that implementing foreign policy is a Presidents most important job. Look at what an unmittigated disaster George W. Bush was because of his incompetence at foreign policy. Due to it not only did over 100,000 innocent people die but it also accounts directly or indirectly for more than half of our national debt.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
LOL I think the debate was fairly even. An incumbant President usually has the advantage in foreign policy....W being an exception. Obama had the best two zingers of the night "The 80's have called, they want their foreign policy back" and "We have these things called aircraft carriers and submarines and we also have less horses and bayonets"