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Tiger Woods

Isn't it amazing that, within only one week of Tiger Woods crashing his Escalade,
The press found every woman with whom Tiger has had an affair during the last few years?
And, they even uncovered photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc.!
Furthermore, they not only know the cause of the family fight, but they even know it was a
9 iron from his golf bag that his wife used to break out the windows in the Escalade.
Not only that, they know which wedge!
And, each & every day, they were able to continue to provide America with updates
On Tiger's sex rehab stay,
his wife's divorce settlement figures.

And the we have the President

Now, Barack Hussein Obama has been in office for over three years, yet this very same press :
Cannot find any of his childhood friends or neighbors; (well, maybe one to whome he claimed to be an African King of some kind.)
Or find any or few of his high school or college classmates...
or any of his former girlfriends;
Or locate any of his college papers or grades;
Or determine how he paid for both a Columbia
or for a Harvard education;
Or discover which country issued his visa to travel to Pakistan in the 1980's;
Or even find Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis on racism.

They just can't seem to uncover any of this.
Yet, the public still trusts that same press to give them the whole truth! Or does it ?

Excerpt from email....
 
bravo said:
Tiger Woods

Isn't it amazing that, within only one week of Tiger Woods crashing his Escalade,
The press found every woman with whom Tiger has had an affair during the last few years?
And, they even uncovered photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc.!
Furthermore, they not only know the cause of the family fight, but they even know it was a
9 iron from his golf bag that his wife used to break out the windows in the Escalade.
Not only that, they know which wedge!
And, each & every day, they were able to continue to provide America with updates
On Tiger's sex rehab stay,
his wife's divorce settlement figures.

And the we have the President

Now, Barack Hussein Obama has been in office for over three years, yet this very same press :
Cannot find any of his childhood friends or neighbors; (well, maybe one to whome he claimed to be an African King of some kind.)
Or find any or few of his high school or college classmates...
or any of his former girlfriends;
Or locate any of his college papers or grades;
Or determine how he paid for both a Columbia
or for a Harvard education;
Or discover which country issued his visa to travel to Pakistan in the 1980's;
Or even find Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis on racism.

They just can't seem to uncover any of this.
Yet, the public still trusts that same press to give them the whole truth! Or does it ?

Excerpt from email....
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Can righties get any more stupid and gullible?

Here's Michelle's thesis. It's been around since 2008.
http://obamaprincetonthesis.wordpress.com/

And following are rightie lies which have been debunked. Be sure to click on all the links.


  • Claims #1, 2 and 4, college records. Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post.
  • Claim #3, thesis paper. Obama did write a paper on nuclear disarmament for an honors course in American foreign policy during his senior year, but it wasn’t the sort of “thesis” that some colleges require for graduation and keep on file in their libraries, like those that Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama released. During the 2008 campaign, reporters were told that Columbia had not retained a copy of Obama’s 1983 paper, and that Obama didn’t have a copy, either. NBC News contacted his former professor, Michael Baron, who said he looked for his copy but couldn’t find it, and thought he probably tossed it out eight years earlier in a move.
    NBC quoted Baron as saying the paper likely would have disappointed Obama’s critics. “The course was not a polemical course, it was a course in decision making and how decisions got made,” Baron told NBC. “None of the papers in the class were controversial.”
  • Claim #5, Selective Service registration. Obama’s Selective Service registration is public. A copy has been posted publicly, and the Selective Service confirmed that Obama registered for the draft on Sept. 4, 1980, and was given registration number 61-1125539-1.
    Worth noting is that nobody in the U.S. has been drafted for military service since 1972, the year Obama turned 11. Obama, like other young men turning age 18 since then, was required to register on a standby basis, in case Congress ever resumes an active military draft. Failure to register is technically a crime, and disqualifies a man for federal student aid or from holding certain federal jobs.
  • Claim #6, medical records. During the 2008 campaign, Obama released summary medical information from his personal physician, who pronounced him to be in “excellent health” with routine test results for such things as cholesterol all within normal levels. (McCain, who is a cancer survivor and was 71 at the time, let reporters see his records for three hours to show he was cancer-free.)
    Since taking office, Obama has followed the practice of earlier presidents. He released results of his first “periodic” physical exam on Feb. 28, 2010. Results of his second “periodic” exam were released Oct. 31, 2011. His physician described him as being “in excellent health and ‘fit for duty.’”
  • Claims #7 and 8, Illinois state Senate records. Obama’s voting record in the Illinois state Senate is a matter of public record, and about as far from being “sealed” as one can imagine. Reporters extensively went over his votes in 2008. Transcripts of Senate debates in which Obama took part while in office (1997 – 2004) can even be found online, at the website of the Illinois General Assembly.
    Obama’s personal appointment calendar as a state senator may still be private — if it still exists — but we’ve seen nothing to suggest that would add much to what is already public. As president, Obama has released records of visitors to the White House (2.4 million so far). There are some exceptions. Personal information about visitors, such as Social Security numbers are not released. And there’s an exemption for “particularly sensitive” information, which might include a visit by a potential Supreme Court nominee, for example. But that’s still more disclosure than any previous president has made, by far.
  • Claim #9, law firm clients. It’s true that Obama has not released a list of the 30 or so clients for whom he worked personally while he was a lawyer with the firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard in Illinois. He did routinely disclose the law firm’s entire client list while he was in the state Senate, however. And his campaign confirmed in 2008 several specific clients that Obama represented personally, when reporters asked about them. For example, he once represented the liberal group ACORN in a 1995 lawsuit against the state of Illinois, to make voter registration easier.
  • Claims #10 and 11, birth certificates. The claim that Obama’s birth certificate is “sealed” is pure nonsense. Copies of both the so-called “short” and “long” certificates have been released, and state officials in Hawaii have said repeatedly that Obama was born there in 1961 and is a “natural born American citizen.”
  • Claim #12, baptism record. If a paper record exists (and we’ve seen no evidence that it does), it would most likely show only what numerous, undisputed news accounts have stated: Obama was baptized in 1988 in Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Obama was often seen in attendance at Wright’s church in the 20 years that followed. He was married there, and his two daughters were baptized there.
    He remained a member even after some of Wright’s controversial sermons were given national attention in early 2008. When Obama reluctantly severed ties with Wright after weeks of controversy, it was a major news event. Obama and his family now attend St. John’s Episcopal Church, near the White House, though not on a regular basis.
  • Claim #13: Michelle Obama’s law license. It’s simply not true that the first lady “can no longer practice law as an attorney.” She could resume the practice of law any time she chooses. Both the president and his wife have voluntarily inactivated their Illinois law licenses, thereby avoiding a requirement to take continuing education classes and pay hundreds of dollars in annual fees, which is common for lawyers no longer actively practicing.
  • Claim #14, first ladies’ assistants. It’s true that the first lady has more than 20 on her staff, but that’s roughly the same as other recent first ladies. The claim that “other first ladies had only one” might conceivably be true of Martha Washington or Dolley Madison, but it’s certainly not true of Laura Bush
  • or Hillary Clinton. Bush had at least 18 that we could count, and probably more with job titles that didn’t make the link clear. The White House has said Michelle Obama’s staff is the same size as Laura Bush’s was.
  • Claim #15, foreign student aid. The claim that Obama got “foreign student aid” is untrue. That wild falsehood began as an absurd April Fools’ Day hoax in 2009, which we quickly exposed.
  • Claim #16, Obama’s passport. There’s no reason to think Obama used anything but the then-current version of his U.S. passport when he traveled to Pakistan as a student in 1981. Some who questioned Obama’s birthplace made baseless claims that Pakistan had banned U.S. citizens from visiting in 1981, and speculated that he must have used an Indonesian passport. But they were quite wrong. There was no such travel ban. In fact, the New York Times published a travel piece that year describing the author’s own visit to Lahore, and the U.S. consul later wrote a letter to the Times saying he would “welcome an influx of Americans” and giving advice on how to make the journey.
 
bravo said:
And the we have the President

Now, Barack Hussein Obama has been in office for over three years,
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Rune said:
No, you just had to come up with something because Christiefan kicked RWA ass.
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I haven't read the thread. I have no idea what you are talking about. I saw somebody who thought fat people are okay to ridicule, so I pointed it out.
 
christiefan915 said:
Can righties get any more stupid and gullible?

Here's Michelle's thesis. It's been around since 2008.
http://obamaprincetonthesis.wordpress.com/

And following are rightie lies which have been debunked. Be sure to click on all the links.


  • Claims #1, 2 and 4, college records. Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post.
  • Claim #3, thesis paper. Obama did write a paper on nuclear disarmament for an honors course in American foreign policy during his senior year, but it wasn’t the sort of “thesis” that some colleges require for graduation and keep on file in their libraries, like those that Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama released. During the 2008 campaign, reporters were told that Columbia had not retained a copy of Obama’s 1983 paper, and that Obama didn’t have a copy, either. NBC News contacted his former professor, Michael Baron, who said he looked for his copy but couldn’t find it, and thought he probably tossed it out eight years earlier in a move.
    NBC quoted Baron as saying the paper likely would have disappointed Obama’s critics. “The course was not a polemical course, it was a course in decision making and how decisions got made,” Baron told NBC. “None of the papers in the class were controversial.”
  • Claim #5, Selective Service registration. Obama’s Selective Service registration is public. A copy has been posted publicly, and the Selective Service confirmed that Obama registered for the draft on Sept. 4, 1980, and was given registration number 61-1125539-1.
    Worth noting is that nobody in the U.S. has been drafted for military service since 1972, the year Obama turned 11. Obama, like other young men turning age 18 since then, was required to register on a standby basis, in case Congress ever resumes an active military draft. Failure to register is technically a crime, and disqualifies a man for federal student aid or from holding certain federal jobs.
  • Claim #6, medical records. During the 2008 campaign, Obama released summary medical information from his personal physician, who pronounced him to be in “excellent health” with routine test results for such things as cholesterol all within normal levels. (McCain, who is a cancer survivor and was 71 at the time, let reporters see his records for three hours to show he was cancer-free.)
    Since taking office, Obama has followed the practice of earlier presidents. He released results of his first “periodic” physical exam on Feb. 28, 2010. Results of his second “periodic” exam were released Oct. 31, 2011. His physician described him as being “in excellent health and ‘fit for duty.’”
  • Claims #7 and 8, Illinois state Senate records. Obama’s voting record in the Illinois state Senate is a matter of public record, and about as far from being “sealed” as one can imagine. Reporters extensively went over his votes in 2008. Transcripts of Senate debates in which Obama took part while in office (1997 – 2004) can even be found online, at the website of the Illinois General Assembly.
    Obama’s personal appointment calendar as a state senator may still be private — if it still exists — but we’ve seen nothing to suggest that would add much to what is already public. As president, Obama has released records of visitors to the White House (2.4 million so far). There are some exceptions. Personal information about visitors, such as Social Security numbers are not released. And there’s an exemption for “particularly sensitive” information, which might include a visit by a potential Supreme Court nominee, for example. But that’s still more disclosure than any previous president has made, by far.
  • Claim #9, law firm clients. It’s true that Obama has not released a list of the 30 or so clients for whom he worked personally while he was a lawyer with the firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard in Illinois. He did routinely disclose the law firm’s entire client list while he was in the state Senate, however. And his campaign confirmed in 2008 several specific clients that Obama represented personally, when reporters asked about them. For example, he once represented the liberal group ACORN in a 1995 lawsuit against the state of Illinois, to make voter registration easier.
  • Claims #10 and 11, birth certificates. The claim that Obama’s birth certificate is “sealed” is pure nonsense. Copies of both the so-called “short” and “long” certificates have been released, and state officials in Hawaii have said repeatedly that Obama was born there in 1961 and is a “natural born American citizen.”
  • Claim #12, baptism record. If a paper record exists (and we’ve seen no evidence that it does), it would most likely show only what numerous, undisputed news accounts have stated: Obama was baptized in 1988 in Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Obama was often seen in attendance at Wright’s church in the 20 years that followed. He was married there, and his two daughters were baptized there.
    He remained a member even after some of Wright’s controversial sermons were given national attention in early 2008. When Obama reluctantly severed ties with Wright after weeks of controversy, it was a major news event. Obama and his family now attend St. John’s Episcopal Church, near the White House, though not on a regular basis.
  • Claim #13: Michelle Obama’s law license. It’s simply not true that the first lady “can no longer practice law as an attorney.” She could resume the practice of law any time she chooses. Both the president and his wife have voluntarily inactivated their Illinois law licenses, thereby avoiding a requirement to take continuing education classes and pay hundreds of dollars in annual fees, which is common for lawyers no longer actively practicing.
  • Claim #14, first ladies’ assistants. It’s true that the first lady has more than 20 on her staff, but that’s roughly the same as other recent first ladies. The claim that “other first ladies had only one” might conceivably be true of Martha Washington or Dolley Madison, but it’s certainly not true of Laura Bush
  • or Hillary Clinton. Bush had at least 18 that we could count, and probably more with job titles that didn’t make the link clear. The White House has said Michelle Obama’s staff is the same size as Laura Bush’s was.
  • Claim #15, foreign student aid. The claim that Obama got “foreign student aid” is untrue. That wild falsehood began as an absurd April Fools’ Day hoax in 2009, which we quickly exposed.
  • Claim #16, Obama’s passport. There’s no reason to think Obama used anything but the then-current version of his U.S. passport when he traveled to Pakistan as a student in 1981. Some who questioned Obama’s birthplace made baseless claims that Pakistan had banned U.S. citizens from visiting in 1981, and speculated that he must have used an Indonesian passport. But they were quite wrong. There was no such travel ban. In fact, the New York Times published a travel piece that year describing the author’s own visit to Lahore, and the U.S. consul later wrote a letter to the Times saying he would “welcome an influx of Americans” and giving advice on how to make the journey.
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Hey Bravo, you can say thanks now!!
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Hey Bravo, you can say thanks now!!
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I just love to stir the ashes to get the fire going.....and you need to work on your reading.
I don't know where all those numbers came from but her whole post has very little to do with mine....
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College records not sealed ?.....well certainly not released to the public either...so for all practical purposes...sealed.
Thesis papers lost ?....thats very convenient....

As for #5 through #13 ? ... I didn't mention any of those things.....

I didn't mention Sel. Ser. registration or medical records....irrelevant...nor the State Senate records nor his law firm clients...again irrelevant
Nor his birth or baptism papers....nor his wifes law license or her assistants....again irrelevant

Who paid his tution ?....so she just claims its all untrue and drops it....? Thats hardly an answer. We still don't know anything......
And the passport ?....again a non answer....lets just see the damn thing...."There's no reason to believe....' is not an answer to the mystery......
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Looks like she buffaloed you pretty good with that big post that is 80% irrelevant and 20% strawman crap....

But is was fun.....and she tries so hard......defend Obama no matter what the issue is.....

If I said Obama was tall she'd fight like hell to prove he weighs only 182 lbs. and claim I was totally wrong....

I'll have to see what other nonsense I can dig up to get riled....

 
Damocles said:
I haven't read the thread. I have no idea what you are talking about. I saw somebody who thought fat people are okay to ridicule, so I pointed it out.
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I find this amusing, fat pleople have been ridiculed on this site for years and you are just now taking offense? Seriously?
 
bravo said:
I just love to stir the ashes to get the fire going.....and you need to work on your reading.
I don't know where all those numbers came from but her whole post has very little to do with mine....
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College records not sealed ?.....well certainly not released to the public either...so for all practical purposes...sealed.
Thesis papers lost ?....thats very convenient....

As for #5 through #13 ? ... I didn't mention any of those things.....

I didn't mention Sel. Ser. registration or medical records....irrelevant...nor the State Senate records nor his law firm clients...again irrelevant
Nor his birth or baptism papers....nor his wifes law license or her assistants....again irrelevant

Who paid his tution ?....so she just claims its all untrue and drops it....? Thats hardly an answer. We still don't know anything......
And the passport ?....again a non answer....lets just see the damn thing...."There's no reason to believe....' is not an answer to the mystery......
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Looks like she buffaloed you pretty good with that big post that is 80% irrelevant and 20% strawman crap....

But is was fun.....and she tries so hard......defend Obama no matter what the issue is.....

If I said Obama was tall she'd fight like hell to prove he weighs only 182 lbs. and claim I was totally wrong....

I'll have to see what other nonsense I can dig up to get riled....
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Nonsense, a good word to describe most of what you post! Glad you acknowledge it!
 
Rana said:
I find this amusing, fat pleople have been ridiculed on this site for years and you are just now taking offense? Seriously?
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It's the hypocrisy of the "inclusive and tolerant" doing it that really brought it out.
 
Rune said:
Fascinating. You acknowledge inherent right wing racism. Very honest.
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Fat and disabled... which is a race? You are clearly reaching. Who is it that is now trying to get those grapes?

Let me clue you in, tolerance isn't telling people that Christians in the US are an equal to the Taliban and pointing out the hypocrisy of somebody who prides themselves in being inclusive and tolerant for being both intolerant and exclusive isn't admitting anything other than we can see this person is clearly not tolerant or inclusive.
 
Damocles said:
Fat and disabled... which is a race? You are clearly reaching. Who is it that is now trying to get those grapes?

Let me clue you in, tolerance isn't telling people that Christians in the US are an equal to the Taliban and pointing out the hypocrisy of somebody who prides themselves in being inclusive and tolerant for being both intolerant and exclusive isn't admitting anything other than we can see this person is clearly not tolerant or inclusive.
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So now you deny one side is inclusive and tolerant versus the other side?
 
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