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You're a straw-grasping rube. Only the brainwashed morons are clinging to this the way you are, fool.
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Transcript Truthers: Conservatives Deny Obama Called Libya Attack An "Act Of Terror"
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No, I am pointing out that Romney was absolutely correct, the president never called the attack in Libya an act of terror. He made a declarative statement about acts of terror not shaking our resolve. ACTS... PLURAL... as in ANY AND ALL, but not this attack, because he hasn't yet defined this attack as an act of terror or terror attack! STILL!
Sorry, I will beat the dead horse from now until election time, and tell every person I know about this... read what he said... he DID NOT call the attacks in Libya an act of terror, he DID NOT call the perpetrators "terrorists" and he has YET to do so. It is a disingenuous LIE to claim otherwise. READ THE TRANSCRIPT!
Beat that dead horse, rube! No one gives a shit....you're an idiot.
gee, do you remember that congress reduced the amount for security at our embassies and consulates by $300,000,000
are you in favor of jumping to conclusions or would you prefer that the government start immediate retaliation toward who?...like leveling the city where the attack occurred
are you also aware that libya did not allow any us investigators near the area of attack for over two weeks, well after the scene of the crime was overrun by looters
actually inspecting the scene showed that heavy weapons were used rather than just small arms that would be available to a crowd of protesters
now what do you suggest be done about the attack, gather more intelligence or proceed without more intelligence
start a war in libya and further destabilize the country or try for targeted attacks by, dare i mention them, drones
the problem is similar to the problem with pakistan taliban that are holed up in mountainous territory - how do we target the taliban and not include civilians
bengazi harbors several antigovernment militias that the libyan government cannot control
so what do suggest that we do, tell them our plan for destroying them or what
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No, and no one else does, because it never happened. Ryan proposed these cuts in the defense budget (non specific) but his budget wasn't passed by Congress. Even IF it had been, there was no specification this had to come from embassy security. This is nothing more than pure liberal propaganda spun from whole cloth. By the way... WHAT party has been yammering for defense cuts the most lately? Give ya a hint... it ain't the Republican party!
No, I am in favor of our president being honest about it and telling us the truth instead of lying because he is trying to get re-elected.
This is MORE bullshit liberal whining. Wahhh... Obama couldn't do anything, them mean old Muslim Brothers wouldn't let him!
We should have been told it was a planned and coordinated terrorist attack by alQaeda on the anniversary of 9/11, and not LIED TO and told it was some spontaneous protest over a video.
So you were talking about the admin? I assumed you were talking about some talking heads or somebody else. I read everything in bravo's list. There is nothing there to get one's magic underwear in a twist over. The one item that sort of looks bad is Susan Rice's comments but that is just taken out of context in a way that changes the meaning. It was dishonest.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/11/fox-news-reimagines-amb-susan-rices-remarks-on/190539
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/politics/fact-check-terror/index.html
He was not right on the "acts of terror." That's what he got stuck on.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/opinion/republicans-have-no-shame.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
At a hearing of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform last Wednesday, Representative Darrell Issa, Republican of California and the committee’s chairman, talked of “examining security failures that led to the Benghazi tragedy.” He said lawmakers had an obligation to protect federal workers overseas. On Sunday, he said more should be spent on diplomatic security.
But as part of the Republican majority that has controlled the House the last two years, Mr. Issa joined in cutting nearly a half-billion dollars from the State Department’s two main security accounts. One covers things like security staffing, including local guards, armored vehicles and security technology; the other, embassy construction and upgrades. In 2011 and 2012, President Obama sought a total of $5 billion, and the House approved $4.5 billion. In 2009, Mr. Issa voted for an amendment that would have cut nearly 300 diplomatic security positions. And the draconian budgets proposed by Mitt Romney’s running mate, Representative Paul Ryan, would cut foreign affairs spending by 10 percent in 2013 and even more in 2016.
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But he WAS right, that's the thing. Crowley said he wasn't right, but later admitted he was right.
The text of his 9/12 Rose Garden speech has been posted, he used the word "terror" once in the entire speech... he actually mentioned "God" more times than terror! In complete CONTEXT of what he said, he never called the attacks "terrorist attacks" he never called the perpetrators "terrorists" and he never condemned this as a terrorist act. He made a generalized statement about "acts of terror will not shake our resolve," and that is IT. For the following two weeks, after uttering the word "terror" once in his speech, he did not describe the attacks in Libya as a terrorist attack, a terrorist action, an act of terror, terrorism, or anything other than a "spontaneous uprising" over a video. His spokesperson was reluctant to use the word "terrorism" or the phrase "terrorist attack" as well, in press briefing after press briefing, he danced around direct questions and hem-hawed on giving a direct answer. It wasn't until the end of September, his administration officials began hinting this was actually a planned and orchestrated alQaeda terrorist attack, and NOT a 'spontaneous uprising' as we had been told. AND NOW... Liberals wish to go back and grab the one usage of the word "terror" in his speech, and claim that he has always called this a terrorist attack.
And at this time, he STILL hasn't called this a "terrorist attack!"
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Libyan security was contracted to a small British company with horrible results.
Why aren't rightwingers aware of this?
Why aren't rightwingers aware of this?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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And as well written as this piece of crap propaganda is written, it simply doesn't support the allegation that security for embassies was cut by Republicans. The House budget did NOT pass the Senate, so it doesn't matter what Republicans proposed. What Paul Ryan WOULD do, in 2013 and 2016, has absolutely NOTHING to do with current security at embassies.
He was not right on that point. Crowley never said he was right on that point and has not changed her position one bit. Obama did refer to "acts of terror" and it was in a sentence immediately preceding a reference to the 4 deaths. You can parse all you like, those are facts.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Obama said "No acts of terror will shake our resolve" ....that isn't saying this was a terrorist attack. No parsing required, it simply is NOT the statement he made.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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"He [Romney] was right on the main." -Candy Crowley the morning after the debate.
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When a U.S. attempt to free hostages in Tehran failed in 1980, the Gipper called for unity and declined to criticize President Carter.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...in-2012-a-far-cry-from-reagan-in-1980/262298/
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...in-2012-a-far-cry-from-reagan-in-1980/262298/
With your frame of references that is high praise.
It shows that this is nothing but a political issue for Republicans. The policy criticism is not sincere.
Yeah, DOES NOT CHANGE A FUCKING THING. She said that during the debate. Were you not listening?
And that was not the point of contention.
MR. ROMNEY: Yeah, I — I certainly do. I certainly do. I — I think it’s interesting the president just said something which is that on the day after the attack, he went in the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror. You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror. It was not a spontaneous demonstration.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Please proceed.
MR. ROMNEY: Is that what you’re saying?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Please proceed, Governor.
MR. ROMNEY: I — I — I want to make sure we get that for the record, because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Get the transcript.
MS. CROWLEY: It — he did in fact, sir.
So let me — let me call it an act of terrorism — (inaudible) —
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy? (Laughter, applause.)
MS. CROWLEY: He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.
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Facts don't matter.
Romney is white, Obama is not.
That's the difference for people like Dixie, isn't it?
Romney is white, Obama is not.
That's the difference for people like Dixie, isn't it?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Romney was right, even Crowley had to admit that.
Look... you're not going to get away with blaming the attacks on republicans. You are not going to get away with claiming Obama called them terrorist attacks. You can fluff up his generalized statement, you can prop up Crowley, you can keep suggesting that budget proposals which never were passed by Congress, led to the lack of security, but it's just not going to fly with the informed American public.
I think it's a GLARING example of this administration's incompetence and dishonesty. You wanted something to distract the voters from Obama's dismal economic record? Well, you got it bud!
Look... you're not going to get away with blaming the attacks on republicans. You are not going to get away with claiming Obama called them terrorist attacks. You can fluff up his generalized statement, you can prop up Crowley, you can keep suggesting that budget proposals which never were passed by Congress, led to the lack of security, but it's just not going to fly with the informed American public.
I think it's a GLARING example of this administration's incompetence and dishonesty. You wanted something to distract the voters from Obama's dismal economic record? Well, you got it bud!