She needs to be 'corrected' by her husband...

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Makes the ganglia twitch.
Interesting how these religious types get angry and lash out isn't it?

DesMoinesRegister.com
5:15 PM, Oct 14, 2012
Written by David Pitt (AP)

Politics and religion have collided at a Burlington church after pamphlets encouraging voters to remove an Iowa Supreme Court justice were made available at a Sunday service. A woman who attended the City Church service on Sept. 30 told a pastor she believed it was illegal for a church to display material that promotes specific political action.

That pastor told her it wasn’t illegal, and in an Oct. 7 sermon another pastor, the Rev. Steve Youngblood, castigated her for raising objections about the pamphlets that back the removal of Justice David Wiggins. “Don’t call yourself a Christian and do that,” Youngblood said in the sermon. “We need to draw a line in the sand. We need to begin to say that at City Church this is how we’re going to be.”

Under a 1954 federal law, it is illegal for tax-exempt organizations, including churches, to promote political candidates or ballot issues. Those who violate the law can lose their tax-exempt status, which allows tax deductions on money given to a church and allows a church to avoid paying property taxes.

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“The IRS is prohibited by law from commenting on any specific taxpayer or entity,” spokesman Christopher Miller said. In his Oct. 7 sermon, the audio of which was posted online, Youngblood speaks of the woman who complained, saying he’d “like to slap her” and that her husband should rise up and “correct her." What makes me madder is that this person’s husband won’t correct them,” he said. “I don’t like rebellious women. I don’t like rebellious men, either. They’re even worse.”



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- Hmmm. Have you ever notice how these so-called lovers of peace, and turn-the-other-cheekers seem to default to Old Testament practices of beating those who contradict them when ''The Jesus Material'' ain't working???? I have........

Men rule doncha know... when will the IRS come down on these sleeze bags.
 
I enjoy the "Christian" conservatives faux crying how "concerned" they are about Islamic women being abused...a fundamentalist is a fundamentalist, right?
 
Haiku said:
Interesting how these religious types get angry and lash out isn't it?



- Hmmm. Have you ever notice how these so-called lovers of peace, and turn-the-other-cheekers seem to default to Old Testament practices of beating those who contradict them when ''The Jesus Material'' ain't working???? I have........

Men rule doncha know... when will the IRS come down on these sleeze bags.
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All women should know what their place in life is
 
Damocles said:
Actually they don't because they fear the SCOTUS ruling that would come down. There are a great many pastors who promote political speech from the pulpit to purposefully try to get the IRS to act so they can bring the lawsuit. Once per year they hold "Pulpit Freedom Sunday" where they purposefully speak out politically from the pulpit.
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And as long as they endorse Republicans, you're OK with that?
 
\\((|))// said:
And as long as they endorse Republicans, you're OK with that?
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It's information. Personally I don't believe that the government has the power to try to punish churches, either liberal or conservative, for speaking. There's a thing called the First Amendment that pretty much makes it so they can't use such powers to restrict that kind of speech. And yes, fining, etc. a church through taxation that they otherwise would not pay because of political speech would be an infringement. I believe that the IRS would lose, and they do too.

Basically, when Rev. Wright speaks out against the government, he has the right.
 
Damocles said:
It's information. Personally I don't believe that the government has the power to try to punish churches, either liberal or conservative, for speaking. There's a thing called the First Amendment that pretty much makes it so they can't use such powers to restrict that kind of speech. And yes, fining, etc. a church through taxation that they otherwise would not pay because of political speech would be an infringement. I believe that the IRS would lose, and they do too.

Basically, when Rev. Wright speaks out against the government, he has the right.
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They have a right to speak, but they also have the right to lose their tax free status.
 
Rana said:
They have a right to speak, but they also have the right to lose their tax free status.
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Again, using a power of government to try to force them to stay silent is an infringement and they (the IRS) know it. There is a reason that the IRS doesn't go after these churches that are literally flaunting it, and it is because they know that they will more than likely lose. They've been doing it for years, and the movement is growing. It isn't a partisan movement, both liberal pastors and conservative pastors participate.
 
Damocles said:
Again, using a power of government to try to force them to stay silent is an infringement and they (the IRS) know it. There is a reason that the IRS doesn't go after these churches that are literally flaunting it, and it is because they know that they will more than likely lose. They've been doing it for years, and the movement is growing. It isn't a partisan movement, both liberal pastors and conservative pastors participate.
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They violate their agreement to be tax free by preaching politics. I don't care who it is, liberal, conservative, whatever.
 
Damocles said:
Again, using a power of government to try to force them to stay silent is an infringement and they (the IRS) know it. There is a reason that the IRS doesn't go after these churches that are literally flaunting it, and it is because they know that they will more than likely lose. They've been doing it for years, and the movement is growing. It isn't a partisan movement, both liberal pastors and conservative pastors participate.
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Again, it doesn't matter. It is still a violation and it is the case where the IRs should prosecute or change the law for tax exemption. They are thumbing their nose at the letter of the law. It doesn't matter that they are getting away with it. They are still violating the tax code.
 
Rana said:
Again, it doesn't matter. It is still a violation and it is the case where the IRs should prosecute or change the law for tax exemption. They are thumbing their nose at the letter of the law. It doesn't matter that they are getting away with it. They are still violating the tax code.
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So if getting a tax exemption precludes political speech why doesn't it apply to unions?
 
Rana said:
Again, it doesn't matter. It is still a violation and it is the case where the IRs should prosecute or change the law for tax exemption. They are thumbing their nose at the letter of the law. It doesn't matter that they are getting away with it. They are still violating the tax code.
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Notice how these wingers love to squeal about law and order except when they're yelling about having to live under law and order....it doesn't really apply to them only to the rest of us.
 
Haiku said:
Notice how these wingers love to squeal about law and order except when they're yelling about having to live under law and order....it doesn't really apply to them only to the rest of us.
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Seems like they have a problem with Islam, but none with evangelical Christians getting tax exemptions they aren't entitled to.

Jesus must be so proud.
 
Damocles said:
Read the link I gave, it talks about it.

Or you can read this one:

http://blogs.reuters.com/taxbreak/2...ing-states-big-part-of-pulpit-freedom-sunday/
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Where does it say
Damocles said:
both liberal pastors and conservative pastors participate.
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I don't see it in the original link.

In the second one, it says "When Reuters spoke last week to Erik Stanley senior legal counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), which has been organizing “Pulpit Freedom Sunday” since it began in 2008, he said the group was not pushing any particular political agenda and participants came from both conservative and liberal churches."

So I should just take his word for it?
 
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