simulus boosted returns

[evince]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stimulus-measures-boosted-fund-returns-211750090.html



why is it you all pretend the stimulus didnt work if the markets all think they work?




the Standard & Poor's 500 index climbed 5.8 percent in the latest quarter, while U.S. stock mutual funds returned an average 5.3 percent, according to fund tracker Lipper Inc.

The stock market is a leading indicator, which means that its movements generally anticipate changes in the economy around six months before they occur. So how to explain the recent gains for stocks, given the worsening outlook?

The answer is simple: Policymakers in the U.S., China and Europe have come to the rescue with new stimulus programs and financial support.

 

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stimulus-measures-boosted-fund-returns-211750090.html



why is it you all pretend the stimulus didnt work if the markets all think they work?




the Standard & Poor's 500 index climbed 5.8 percent in the latest quarter, while U.S. stock mutual funds returned an average 5.3 percent, according to fund tracker Lipper Inc.

The stock market is a leading indicator, which means that its movements generally anticipate changes in the economy around six months before they occur. So how to explain the recent gains for stocks, given the worsening outlook?

The answer is simple: Policymakers in the U.S., China and Europe have come to the rescue with new stimulus programs and financial support.

Did you even read your own article until the end? Or did you just read up and until the part that you thought would bolster your argument and then quickly copy and paste the link? If you did read it, did you even comprehend what you read? Do you even understand finance and investing? Here is the most notable passages from your own article which you apparently overlooked in trying to spin your partisan bilge.

Most notable was the Federal Reserve's approval last month of a third round of bond-buying to stimulate the economy and stock market.
Stocks rallied throughout the summer in anticipation of the Fed's move as investors tried not to be discouraged by the quarterly profit outlook. Earnings from July through September are expected to be about 1 percent lower, on average, than a year ago. It would the first such quarterly decline in three and a half years. Earlier this year, Wall Street analysts were forecasting third-quarter earnings would modestly grow rather than decline.
Meanwhile, the economy continues to grow slowly, although jobs gains last month are fueling modest optimism. Outlooks in China and Europe have worsened, and the International Monetary Fund has scaled back its global growth forecast.


Now, shall I translate this for you? The stock rise has nothing to do with Wall St's positive outlook on the economy. Earnings are down. The rise in the stock market has EVERYTHING to do with Federal Reserve actions of keeping interest rates artificially low and printing more money thus devaluing the dollar.

When interest rates are low, money flows to more risky investments as the risk free rate keeps being pushed lower. People aren't flooding to real estate like they did when Greenspan kept rates low, so they are flooding to the stock market. Hell, Uncle Ben admitted that this is what he is trying to do, but your ignant ass would have to actually read his statements. He is trying to cause the stock market to rise so people will feel better about things and go out and spend money.

But, make no mistake this has ZERO to do with OWEblahblah's stimulus as you claim. Your own article that you link to refutes your conclusion. Normal people would be embarrassed, but I suspect that like OWEblahblah, you possess a certain amount of narcissism and lack of self awareness to comprehend what just happened to you.

 

[evince]

yes europe and gas prices are causing some headwinds.

Now are you willing to talk about why you on the right just KEEP pretending stimulus doesnt work while the rest of the entire world knows it does work?

 

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yes europe and gas prices are causing some headwinds.

Now are you willing to talk about why you on the right just KEEP pretending stimulus doesnt work while the rest of the entire world knows it does work?

Define what you mean by stimulus and define what you mean by "work"

If you mean that pumping fake money into a ailing economy can show artificial results, then sure, stimulus can work. If you are arguing that you are getting sustained, real economic growth, then you are absolutely wrong. But all you are doing is borrowing from future prosperity.

Be specific about what you are arguing because right now it is clear you don't understand basic economics or finance. Are you arguing that Uncle Ben's QE1, QE2 and QE3 have boosted the stock market? If that is the case then I would 1000% agree with you.

If you are arguing that OWEblahblah's $900 billion stimulus caused the stock market to rise then I would say provide the proof? No economist believes that. Nobody who understands finance really believes that. Your own link disproves it.

So be specific in what you are claiming. Or are you a partisan hack like Biden and will you hide behind generalities like "I said stimulus works"? If so, then don't waste your time responding because I have made my position crystal clear.