One in five Americans has no religion

[NOVA]

What are you talking about. Post something about access to abortion that shows your statement is based in fact. There are regulations at every level these days to the point that they are being used intentionally to curtail womens access to abortion. So rather than deal with that fact you want to argue what you 'believe' prochoice women think? Typical.

Abortion is legal anytime, up to and including partial birth abortion minutes before natural birth....with Obama's view that a botched abortion that
leaves the infant actually alive, moving, and breathing and outside the womb, could be killed then....his vote on the matter is well known.
Reasons for abortion do not exist....any reason is sufficient and no reason is sufficient.....

Anything else ? Access ?....Anywhere a Planned Parenthood Clinic is available and countless other clinics worldwide....
Children are allowed to get abortions without notifing parents is next if its not already being done.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken about anything

 

[Haiku]

To be an atheist is to not understand what God is.

To subscribe to organized religion is to not understand what God is.

So says the Dominionist...

 

[Haiku]

Abortion is legal anytime, up to and including partial birth abortion minutes before natural birth....with Obama's view that a botched abortion that
leaves the infant actually alive, moving, and breathing and outside the womb, could be killed then....his vote on the matter is well known.
Reasons for abortion do not exist....any reason is sufficient and no reason is sufficient.....

Anything else ? Access ?....Anywhere a Planned Parenthood Clinic is available and countless other clinics worldwide....
Children are allowed to get abortions without notifing parents is next if its not already being done.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken about anything

You're intentionally ignorant. I won't waste my time with you anymore...

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I did refute your points. You just do your same old tricks of thinking you can change a few words, otherwise using the same vocabulary of those superior to you, employ some slanderous labels and...Tada... there are no equal thirds and all the rest.

You're not 'superior' to me or anyone else here, as far as I can see. You certainly haven't refuted any point I've made. As for "equal thirds", until you can show me three equal values (not fractional representation of value) which equal exactly 1, then I will maintain there is a remainder when dividing 1 by 3. That does not mean that 1/3 "doesn't exist" or we can't divide things into presumably equal thirds. It's just a simple fact of the matter regarding base 10 math, and you can argue against it until the cows come home, math is never a matter of opinion.

No, a-theism means you don't profess a belief in god(s). It was actually first used to describe monotheistic faiths with the same sort of vulgar sophistry you employ here.

What "vulgar sophistry" have I employed here? I merely pointed out that Atheists profess a belief in nothing, and that is presumably a Nihilistic view. You seem to be indicating Atheists DO believe in something, it's just not a "theistic" something. That would appear to be more of a "sophistry" than anything I have stated. Either you DO believe in something greater than self, or you DON'T! Pick one!

It seems you are doing some reading. But, you are not advancing in the pursuit of truth you are just learning new ways to lie.

You are dishonest about EVERYTHING. Even your questions are dishonest.

Where have I lied or been dishonest? Point these lies out and show us where I am being dishonest, or stop making the allegations. You don't win arguments simply by proclaiming yourself the arbiter of truth and everything else a lie. You're not God!

You hide the fact that the core of your beliefs is hate towards those that proudly express some sort of difference. You are doing it here.

To the contrary, that appears to be what YOU are doing. I've not hidden anything or expressed any kind of hate toward anyone.

It is is quite ridiculous for you to assert that I am lashing out in hate when your last tantrum is so fresh. It never takes long for you to return to it.

It's not a tantrum to point out relevant facts in a discussion. Again, a "tantrum" is more like what you are displaying here, with continual allegations you can't support and angry vitriol toward me personally, because you don't approve of something I said... which you simply can not refute.

 

[Timshel]

Abortion is legal anytime, up to and including partial birth abortion minutes before natural birth....with Obama's view that a botched abortion that
leaves the infant actually alive, moving, and breathing and outside the womb, could be killed then....his vote on the matter is well known.
Reasons for abortion do not exist....any reason is sufficient and no reason is sufficient.....

Anything else ? Access ?....Anywhere a Planned Parenthood Clinic is available and countless other clinics worldwide....

Please correct me if I'm mistaken about anything

Whatever, you are talking about I don't believe it is well known outside of your ... rallies. Can you provide some sort of specifics or do we need to send one of the Carter boys in to find out wtf ur talking about?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...ic-OMG-Obama-is-pro-choice-But-like-for-reals

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You're intentionally ignorant. I won't waste my time with you anymore...

It's best that you don't, because he is thoroughly schooling that ass for ya!

 

[Timshel]

You're not 'superior' to blah... fractions and alterante numerical bases are the Devil's math... blah.... I don't care what atheists claim, they believe in nothing... blah... fuck you troll shit is an irrefutable fact and you need to quit hating.... blah

zzzzZZZzzzzz.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

zzzzZZZzzzzz.

It is is quite ridiculous for you to assert that I am lashing out in hate when your last tantrum is so fresh.
It never takes long for you to return to it.

 

[Phantasmal]

Abortion is legal anytime, up to and including partial birth abortion minutes before natural birth....with Obama's view that a botched abortion that
leaves the infant actually alive, moving, and breathing and outside the womb, could be killed then....his vote on the matter is well known.
Reasons for abortion do not exist....any reason is sufficient and no reason is sufficient.....

Anything else ? Access ?....Anywhere a Planned Parenthood Clinic is available and countless other clinics worldwide....
Children are allowed to get abortions without notifing parents is next if its not already being done.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken about anything

You continue in your ignorance, such a shame or should I say sham.

I know it is futile, but educate yourself

http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_OAL.pdf

 

[Timshel]

It is is quite ridiculous for you to assert that I am lashing out in hate when your last tantrum is so fresh.
It never takes long for you to return to it.

A tantrum is now an expression of boredom. Okay... whatever Dixie.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

A tantrum is now an expression of boredom. Okay... whatever Dixie.

No, taking what I posted and re-posting it with your own embellished interpretations, rather than addressing points and refuting factual information presented... that is indicative of a tantrum. The expression of boredom is just petulance.

 

[Timshel]

No, taking what I posted and re-posting it with your own embellished interpretations, rather than addressing points and refuting factual information presented... that is indicative of a tantrum. The expression of boredom is just petulance.

But demanding that atheist believe in nothing is not indicative of a tantrum?

You have not presented any facts. All you ever do is to try to save face by twisting your own words and the words of others. For instance, you are going to once again try to claim that you did NOT argue that 1 foot can not be divided into equal portions of four inches or add in some stupid twist about how instruments of measurement are not 100% accurate. We have been over it and I remember your every dodge in detail. Your tactics bore me.

When it comes down to it your error is exactly what I told you it was and it is the same in every debate. You are not capable of abstract thought. You are only capable of dealing in small details and you limit yourself to highly biased sources of misinformation and hate. Just say ditto, pretend like you actually understand and leave it at that.

 

[Timshel]

And I am VASTLY superior to you Dixie because I don't waste time trying to pretend that I have never made an error. Look at the thread about pharmacies. I was misusing the word compounding and had to take a lump from DQ over it. I don't care. It's not as if the other assholes here don't stink.

 

[NOVA]

But demanding that atheist believe in nothing is not indicative of a tantrum?

You have not presented any facts. All you ever do is to try to save face by twisting your own words and the words of others. For instance, you are going to once again try to claim that you did NOT argue that 1 foot can not be divided into equal portions of four inches or add in some stupid twist about how instruments of measurement are not 100% accurate. We have been over it and I remember your every dodge in detail. Your tactics bore me.

When it comes down to it your error is exactly what I told you it was and it is the same in every debate. You are not capable of abstract thought. You are only capable of dealing in small details and you limit yourself to highly biased sources of misinformation and hate. Just say ditto, pretend like you actually understand and leave it at that.

I didn't follow the whole thread but this post is indicative of the big J getting his ass kicked...and lame to bring up 1/3 bs.....
a nice rant though, without even giving us a clue whats the issue is....lmao

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

But demanding that atheist believe in nothing is not indicative of a tantrum?

No, because I didn't "demand" anything. I merely made the observation that many Atheists DO believe in something, even though they claim they don't, and you have pretty much confirmed this. But instead of admitting I made a valid point, you've decided to morph and twist my words into something that wasn't said, and bash me for it. THAT is a tantrum.

You are now trying to argue that Atheists DO believe in something greater than self, it's just not a "theistic" concept of God... well guess what? I believe basically that same thing. I am NOT an Atheist. I am a spiritualist who believes very much in God, or the concept of God, just not the "theistic" concepts promoted by organized religions. Is that what you believe as an Atheist, or not? Do you simply reject the Christian interpretations of God? If so, you are not a Christian, but it doesn't mean you are truly an Atheist.

You have not presented any facts. All you ever do is to try to save face by twisting your own words and the words of others.

Yes, I did present facts. FACT: 95% of the human race believes in something greater than self, and 5% of the human race are Nihilists. FACT: Many Atheists are bigger believers in God than some Christians, they deny and reject God as a means of 'punishing' God, because they don't know of any other way to do that. Your being offended by the label of Nihilist also seems to confirm what I said, but again, you can't admit that I made a valid point because you are a petulant little twit.

For instance, you are going to once again try to claim that you did NOT argue that 1 foot can not be divided into equal portions of four inches or add in some stupid twist about how instruments of measurement are not 100% accurate. We have been over it and I remember your every dodge in detail. Your tactics bore me.

I did not argue that a foot can't be divided into 3 equal 4" pieces. I didn't argue that ANYTHING couldn't be divided into thirds. The ONLY claim I made, was that the number 1 can't be divided by the number 3 without producing a remainder, and for as long as there is a universe of reality surrounding us, that will be the case. You've not refuted this, and you can't refute it, but again... instead of acknowledging I made a valid point, you have to twist and morph my words into something you can refute. It's a real problem you have and should deal with.

When it comes down to it your error is exactly what I told you it was and it is the same in every debate. You are not capable of abstract thought. You are only capable of dealing in small details and you limit yourself to highly biased sources of misinformation and hate. Just say ditto, pretend like you actually understand and leave it at that.

Nonsense. I've not made an error, you've not pointed an error out, and you can't unless you twist my words. Your concept of "abstract thought" is what I like to call ignorant rejection of common sense for the sake of trying to appear intellectual. If you're pea-brain is going to fathom an "abstract thought" it should at the very least, be able to support it with something, and not depend on rearranging my words to demean me personally, especially about totally unrelated things.

 

[Disillusioned]

Just because you don't belong to a religion does not make you an atheist.

Ummmmm, yes it does. Same way that preferring no sex makes you asexual. It's kinda what that a in front means

atheist= not a theist.

 

[Timshel]

I didn't follow the whole thread but this post is indicative of the big J getting his ass kicked...and lame to bring up 1/3 bs.....
a nice rant though, without even giving us a clue whats the issue is....lmao

Dixie-the-Hutt can't kick his own ass and that thing drags the floor.

 

[Timshel]

No, because I didn't "demand" anything. I merely made the observation that many Atheists DO believe in something, even though they claim they don't, and you have pretty much confirmed this. But instead of admitting I made a valid point, you've decided to morph and twist my words into something that wasn't said, and bash me for it. THAT is a tantrum.

You are now trying to argue that Atheists DO believe in something greater than self, it's just not a "theistic" concept of God... well guess what? I believe basically that same thing. I am NOT an Atheist. I am a spiritualist who believes very much in God, or the concept of God, just not the "theistic" concepts promoted by organized religions. Is that what you believe as an Atheist, or not? Do you simply reject the Christian interpretations of God? If so, you are not a Christian, but it doesn't mean you are truly an Atheist.

Yes, I did present facts. FACT: 95% of the human race believes in something greater than self, and 5% of the human race are Nihilists. FACT: Many Atheists are bigger believers in God than some Christians, they deny and reject God as a means of 'punishing' God, because they don't know of any other way to do that. Your being offended by the label of Nihilist also seems to confirm what I said, but again, you can't admit that I made a valid point because you are a petulant little twit.

I did not argue that a foot can't be divided into 3 equal 4" pieces. I didn't argue that ANYTHING couldn't be divided into thirds. The ONLY claim I made, was that the number 1 can't be divided by the number 3 without producing a remainder, and for as long as there is a universe of reality surrounding us, that will be the case. You've not refuted this, and you can't refute it, but again... instead of acknowledging I made a valid point, you have to twist and morph my words into something you can refute. It's a real problem you have and should deal with.

Nonsense. I've not made an error, you've not pointed an error out, and you can't unless you twist my words. Your concept of "abstract thought" is what I like to call ignorant rejection of common sense for the sake of trying to appear intellectual. If you're pea-brain is going to fathom an "abstract thought" it should at the very least, be able to support it with something, and not depend on rearranging my words to demean me personally, especially about totally unrelated things.

Yes, I believe you are an idiot that does not understand math. That has no relevance to my atheism, though. If you think that is a valid point that needs to be repeated then you are just a fool.

But then you slip the context (as is usual in your intellectually dishonest game) and change it ever so slightly to... belief in something greater than self. Your alcoholics anonymous training is showing again. I don't believe in a god or gods. That's all atheism is about. You insist that it MUST INCLUDE some sort of normative judgment.

BTW, by using the capital G it implies you believe in a concept promoted by some sort of organized religion.

Where do you get your facts about what 95% and 5% believe? Is this fact immutable? Unquestionable? You sure you want to go with that?

You most certainly did argue that a foot cannot be divided into 3 equal portions of 4 inches and you are once again LYING about the facts of that incident. You stated that one of them would have to be 3.999999e inches. We went over this using a foot, a cake, a yard all sorts of things and you just kept doing what you do above, i.e., slipping the context and lying. It's all you ever do.

But go ahead, Dixie, believe you are infallible. It's why besting you is so easy and rather boring.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Yes, I believe you are an idiot that does not understand math. That has no relevance to my atheism, though. If you think that is a valid point that needs to be repeated then you are just a fool.

No, I completely understand maths, it appears you are the one in denial.

But then you slip the context (as is usual in your intellectually dishonest game) and change it ever so slightly to... belief in something greater than self. Your alcoholics anonymous training is showing again. I don't believe in a god or gods. That's all atheism is about. You insist that it MUST INCLUDE some sort of normative judgment.

Well "something greater than self" is indeed a spiritual concept, it can't be anything else. Yes, you've indicated you don't believe in a god or gods, but you argue you believe in something greater than self. Well, by a spiritual definition, you believe in God then, it's simple as that. But you don't want to say that, so you pirouette around on the head of a pin in a kabuki semantics dance. It's entertaining, but any self-respecting Atheist would throw you under the bus in a heartbeat.

BTW, by using the capital G it implies you believe in a concept promoted by some sort of organized religion.

No, capitalization is how you treat any important noun, and something greater than self, is a pretty important one. It has absolutely nothing to do with organized religion or religious dogma.

Where do you get your facts about what 95% and 5% believe? Is this fact immutable? Unquestionable? You sure you want to go with that?

It's just a fact. 5% of the world population identify themselves as Nihilists. That leaves 95% who don't.

You most certainly did argue that a foot cannot be divided into 3 equal portions of 4 inches and you are once again LYING about the facts of that incident. You stated that one of them would have to be 3.999999e inches. We went over this using a foot, a cake, a yard all sorts of things and you just kept doing what you do above, i.e., slipping the context and lying. It's all you ever do.

Never said any such thing, you are imagining things. I argued that 1 can't be divided by 3 without producing a remainder, and that's ALL that I have ever argued. That one little statement has prompted over 5,000 posts in numerous threads, and continues to completely baffle pinhead idiots like you, for some odd and peculiar reason. It's still quite the mystery to me, since mathematics are not a matter of opinion, and are pretty much set in stone. BUT... it is what it is, what can I say?

But go ahead, Dixie, believe you are infallible. It's why besting you is so easy and rather boring.

I've never claimed infallibility. I do require you to prove me wrong if you are going to claim I am wrong. "Besting" me would require you to do that, instead of flapping your yapper about nonsense I never said, and pretending you've "won" some argument that was never made. Yes... I am SO boring, you've spent the better part of your day furiously responding to my every post! Thank fuck I am not EXCITING! You'd REALLY be in some deep shit then, huh?

 

[Timshel]

Well "something greater than self" is indeed a spiritual concept, it can't be anything else. Yes, you've indicated you don't believe in a god or gods, but you argue you believe in something greater than self. Well, by a spiritual definition, you believe in God then, it's simple as that. But you don't want to say that, so you pirouette around on the head of a pin in a kabuki semantics dance. It's entertaining, but any self-respecting Atheist would throw you under the bus in a heartbeat.

You are such a slime ball.

Let's go over it AGAIN.... First you say...

Atheist DO believe in something.

Which I answered, of course, we do but that is not relevant to being atheist. Then you slip context and quite dishonestly change that to...

You are now trying to argue that Atheists DO believe in something greater than self.

NO! I did not argue anything of the kind. If you don't understand how those last three words change the meaning of the sentence then I suggest you go back to alcoholics anonymous, where you got it from, and ask them.

It's just a fact. 5% of the world population identify themselves as Nihilists. That leaves 95% who don't.

So you have nothing to support your "fact?" Forgot where you read that, huh? And you think that this survey that you read long ago is some unchanging fact?

Better part of a day, no. It only takes a few minutes to respond to your idiotic trolling.