CA Bans Gay Conversion Theory for Minors

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CA Bans Gay Conversion Therapy for Minors

After the embarrassment that was prop 8, Ca redeems itself.

CA Gov. Brown Signs SB 1172 Protecting California’s Youth

Late last night, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law SB 1172, a bill that will put an end to dangerous and disproved efforts designed to change a young person’s sexual orientation or gender expression that have proven to inflict great emotional harm.

We are grateful to Gov. Brown for his leadership by standing with California's children. LGBT youth will now be protected from a practice that has been proven to have drastically negative effects on their well-being, but also has been debunked as junk science by all major medical and mental health organizations.

This week nearly 50,000 of you signed our petition urging the Governor to sign the bill. This outpouring of support showed Gov. Brown that we will not tolerate these harmful efforts. We, along with our friends at the National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR) and Equality California (EQCA) will continue our fight against these practices.

This newly signed law is now a model for the country, and our hope is that other states will adopt it in short order to end this child abuse.
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while i agree with the law's intent, isn't this overreaching into how we can raise our children? it is legal to send our kids to reform camps, but not to homosexual reform camps.
 
gone said:
while i agree with the law's intent, isn't this overreaching into how we can raise our children? it is legal to send our kids to reform camps, but not to homosexual reform camps.
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Because reforming bad behavior is healthy. Trying to change the way someone's brain is wired is not.

It's very dangerous.
 
hazlnut said:
Because reforming bad behavior is healthy. Trying to change the way someone's brain is wired is not.

It's very dangerous.
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some believe that homosexuality is bad behavior. one could also make the argument that bad behavior (the kind you go to reform camp for) is also wired.

do you see the slippery slope?
 
FactsRStubborn said:
According to libtardiots it is. So we just need to isolate the gene, be able to determine in utero then reach for the coat hanger. Problem solved. No more queers
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You indicated that we would soon be able to isolate the gene. Are you certain the current science says that it is that clear? Or is that just more of the bs that you got from Rush Limbaugh and your spam folder?

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay
 
gone said:
some believe that homosexuality is bad behavior. one could also make the argument that bad behavior (the kind you go to reform camp for) is also wired.

do you see the slippery slope?
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Oh noess the gayyyyssss

Next on Beavis and Butt-head... the boys debate nature vs nurture and decide... to leave it to the dumbasses.

It's not as simple as being all one or the other. The fact that there MAY be gentic markers is NOT likely to lead to abortion of all the males within a family. But you don't need to send the Bachmann boys in for brainwashing either. Let them find their own course and quit being such a sissy about it.
 
TheSuperstringTheory said:
You indicated that we would soon be able to isolate the gene. Are you certain the current science says that it is that clear? Or is that just more of the bs that you got from Rush Limbaugh and your spam folder?

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay
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OK Mr. Fauxlibertarian show me where I said the words "soon". No wonder you think you are a libertarian, you can't read worth a shit. You just heard they support legalizing dope and you are all in.
 
FactsRStubborn said:
No worries. One day they will just be aborted. Problem solved. I don't know anyone who would want to give birf to a queer
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Did I put it in quotes? The science does NOT support your fearmongering. Not everyone seeks to rationalize the killing of others. That is just you, Mr. Stand Your Ground.
 
TheSuperstringTheory said:
Oh noess the gayyyyssss

Next on Beavis and Butt-head... the boys debate nature vs nurture and decide... to leave it to the dumbasses.

It's not as simple as being all one or the other. The fact that there MAY be gentic markers is NOT likely to lead to abortion of all the males within a family. But you don't need to send the Bachmann boys in for brainwashing either. Let them find their own course and quit being such a sissy about it.
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huh?
 
TheSuperstringTheory said:
Did I put it in quotes? The science does NOT support your fearmongering. Not everyone seeks to rationalize the killing of others. That is just you, Mr. Stand Your Ground.
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Look at the pro choice crowd for rationalizing killing. According to them it isn't killing if it isn't born yet and regardless it is mamas choice.

My point is that no parent wishes they had a queer baby. No parent. Whenever you ask anyone how they would feel about having a queer baby, they say "I would be OK with it".

Since libtards claim that being queer is not a choice that means there must be a gene. One day that gene will be discovered an when it is, people will abort the queers on that basis.

It will be that day that Homo Howie becomes pro life I may even become pro choice. Who knows ;)

You aren't very good at this. You should quit while you are behind
 
gone said:
huh?
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If Mott's around maybe he can back me up.

Science does not support the idea that traits are either completely hard wired or completely based on environment. It is a mixture. Genetics might make homosexuality more likely but it is not deterministic. Check the link I posted in response to StubbornResistanceToFacts. There is no slippery slope unless we deny the rights of the individual and try to FORCE people into certain behaviors. The genetic marker is not likely to lead to parents aborting ALL male children. That does not mean that attempts to brainwash a child are any better. Let the child find his own course.

 
TheSuperstringTheory said:
If Mott's maybe he can back me up.

Science does not support the idea that traits are either completely hard wired or copletely based on environment. It is a mixture. Genetics might make homosexuality more likely but it is not deterministic. Check the link I posted in response to StubbornResistanceToFacts. There is no slippery slope unless we deny the rights of the individual and try to FORCE people into certain behaviors. The genetic marker is not likely to lead to parents aborting ALL male children. That does not mean that attempts to brainwash a child are any better. Let the child find his own course.

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Nice post. But if a genetic marker for queerism is found, the fetus would be aborted. Who wants a genetically inferior baby? Nobody wants to give birth to a queer. That's a fact Jack
 
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