Tethered to their rapists

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Well, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how screwed up it is, but his admission that it is his child and the law, and the woman not wanting to have him in her life, saved his ass from trial. The law needs to be changed. Rapist don't have the right to see a child that was conceived in a criminal act.

They don't allow robbers to keep the money, and this is by far a more heinous crime, so they should not be allowed any rights to the child.

How do you know he raped her? Were you there? I mean to not press charges seems odd dont you think. But at least the baby was born and appears to be doing well which is really the most important thing. It seems the leftwads are broken hearted that a killing of the baby didn't take place. Don't worry libtards I am sure there will be another young lady of color that you can victimize. Hang tough

 

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Well, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how screwed up it is, but his admission that it is his child and the law, and the woman not wanting to have him in her life, saved his ass from trial. The law needs to be changed. Rapist don't have the right to see a child that was conceived in a criminal act.

They don't allow robbers to keep the money, and this is by far a more heinous crime, so they should not be allowed any rights to the child.

Assuming he raped her, if she had pressed charges and won at trial, she would not have had him in her life at all, instead he would be enjoying somebody else "being in his life". No charge, no conviction, no sympathy.

 

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How do you know he raped her? Were you there? I mean to not press charges seems odd dont you think. But at least the baby was born and appears to be doing well which is really the most important thing. It seems the leftwads are broken hearted that a killing of the baby didn't take place. Don't worry libtards I am sure there will be another young lady of color that you can victimize. Hang tough

Not really helping. Try more facts and reasoning and less insults.

 

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Too bad someone couldn't just shoot the guy...

 

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And men wonder why women get angry. How about because the system is stacked against them?

"Chicago lawyer Shauna Prewitt wrote an opinion article for CNN.com detailing how she was raped in college and went on to not only have the resulting child, but fight laws allowing the fathers in these cases to seek "the same custody and visitation rights to their children that other fathers enjoy." The story comes after U.S. Rep. Todd Akin's controversial remarks about "legitimate rape" and abortion.

Shauna Prewitt was raped, and nine months later she gave birth to her rapists child. "You see, nine months after my rape, I gave birth to a beautiful little girl. You could say she was conceived in rape; she was. But she is also so much more than her beginnings. I blissfully believed that after I finally had decided to give birth to and to raise my daughter, life would be all roses and endless days at the playground. I was wrong again."

Prewitt's rapist then took her to court and she had to fight him in a custody battle. She learned while researching her case that 31 states do not have laws that prohibit racists from asserting custodial and visitation rights over a child he fathered through rape.

In other words, the rapist exerts control over his victim once again, using the baby produced from the attack as a bargaining chip. His offer, “I’ll leave you alone and let go of the custody thing as long as you don’t try to prosecute me for what I did,” is grotesque, but no doubt very effective. Prewitt says of this dynamic, “it is not surprising that a man who cruelly degrades a woman would also seek to torture her in an even more agonizing way, by seeking access to her child.”



http://www.nowpublic.com/world/men-who-father-through-rape-are-able-have-rights-child-2972549.html


Shawna's article in the Georgetown Law Journal: http://georgetownlawjournal.org/files/pdf/98-3/Prewitt.PDF

this needs to be fixed ASAP.

she shouldn't have to 'fight' anything. the rapist should have zero claim to his issue, just as an heir has zero claim to an inheritance if he is found guilty of murdering the person he was to inherit from. this is really a no brainer.

and really christie...do you think it helps the cause by starting off by saying: and men wonder why women get angry? you know that is about relationship issues, not issues like this.

 

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this needs to be fixed ASAP.

she shouldn't have to 'fight' anything. the rapist should have zero claim to his issue, just as an heir has zero claim to an inheritance if he is found guilty of murdering the person he was to inherit from. this is really a no brainer.

and really christie...do you think it helps the cause by starting off by saying: and men wonder why women get angry? you know that is about relationship issues, not issues like this.

Was he convicted? Or is just accusing him of rape sufficient? Because using that standard, I would wonder why OWEbama would want a rapist giving a keynote address at the D&C convention. Know what I mean?

 

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Was he convicted? Or is just accusing him of rape sufficient? Because using that standard, I would wonder why OWEbama would want a rapist giving a keynote address at the D&C convention. Know what I mean?

i believe the standard should be a conviction. not just an arrest, but an actual conviction. and, unless that conviction is overturned, my belief stands.

 

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this needs to be fixed ASAP.

she shouldn't have to 'fight' anything. the rapist should have zero claim to his issue, just as an heir has zero claim to an inheritance if he is found guilty of murdering the person he was to inherit from. this is really a no brainer.

and really christie...do you think it helps the cause by starting off by saying: and men wonder why women get angry? you know that is about relationship issues, not issues like this.

Really, yurt. We've spent many days and threads arguing about how women are still treated like second class citizens in this country. And there's nothing in Prewitt's account where she states she was in a relationship with her attacker.

 

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i believe the standard should be a conviction. not just an arrest, but an actual conviction. and, unless that conviction is overturned, my belief stands.

yurt there hasn't been a conviction or even any charges brought against the guy.

 

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Really, yurt. We've spent many days and threads arguing about how women are still treated like second class citizens in this country. And there's nothing in Prewitt's account where she states she was in a relationship with her attacker.

what? i just went off your OP.

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you know that is about relationship issues, not issues like this.

 

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yurt there hasn't been a conviction or even any charges brought against the guy.

so what is christie's point? geeze..that is what i get for not carefully checking her OP. her OP makes it as if the guy is guilty and couple that with her own OP words...i ASSumed.

 

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i would like to see the law in the supposed 31 states the OP claims

 

[christiefan915]

yurt there hasn't been a conviction or even any charges brought against the guy.

Why are you trying to steer this off topic?

The topic is about a rapist demanding custody if the woman chooses to bear the child. The writer says she was raped. Now if you think she's lying, show some proof.

 

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Why are you trying to steer this off topic?

The topic is about a rapist demanding custody if the woman chooses to bear the child. The writer says she was raped. Now if you think she's lying, show some proof.

his post is not off topic.

Tethered to their rapists
And men wonder why women get angry. How about because the system is stacked against them?

you made a claim and if your claim, the rape, is not true, your OP has very little merit.

 

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Why are you trying to steer this off topic?

I was just responding to something that yurt said that wasn't true.

The topic is about a rapist demanding custody if the woman chooses to bear the child.

Yeah that's wrong, said so earlier in the thread.

The writer says she was raped. Now if you think she's lying, show some proof.

disproving a negative is not how society functions or how most logical people operate. It's usually up to the one making a positive claim to provide some sort of evidence.

I am not saying this women is lying. (though wanting sole custody of your child would otherwise be a pretty good motive to do so)

Also this women is selfish because if she was raped she's leaving this guy to continue roaming the streets where he'll probably end up raping someone else causing more harm.

 

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Assuming he raped her, if she had pressed charges and won at trial, she would not have had him in her life at all, instead he would be enjoying somebody else "being in his life". No charge, no conviction, no sympathy.

How long do you think rapists go to jail?

 

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I was just responding to something that yurt said that wasn't true.



Yeah that's wrong, said so earlier in the thread.



disproving a negative is not how society functions or how most logical people operate. It's usually up to the one making a positive claim to provide some sort of evidence.

I am not saying this women is lying. (though wanting sole custody of your child would otherwise be a pretty good motive to do so)

Also this women is selfish because if she was raped she's leaving this guy to continue roaming the streets where he'll probably end up raping someone else causing more harm.

Wow, I love how you turn this back on the victim, that is messed up.

 

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Why are you trying to steer this off topic?

The topic is about a rapist demanding custody if the woman chooses to bear the child. The writer says she was raped. Now if you think she's lying, show some proof.

his post is not off topic.


you made a claim and if your claim, the rape, is not true, your OP has very little merit.

Wow, I love how you turn this back on the victim, that is messed up.

And very common.

 

[christiefan915]

his post is not off topic.


you made a claim and if your claim, the rape, is not true, your OP has very little merit.

Why don't you take it up with Prewitt? Ask her to send her records for your perusal. She says she was raped and I have no reason not to believe her. But not you guys, apparently your knee-jerk reaction is that if a woman says she was raped, she's lying. My claim, as you put it, is that over 30 states have laws in effect that a rapist can ask for custodial rights if a child is born from the assault. My comment about this fact is that nothing could be more hurtful and damaging to a rape victim than to have the courts give custody rights to her attacker. If you think this is fair, just say so. Otherwise stop trying to imply Prewitt is a liar because of the choice she made. Stop missing the forest for the trees.

 

[christiefan915]

He admitted "what I did" he could mean consensual sex, his comment could be twisted in any manner. If he had admitted to raping her, the prosecution wouldn't need to involve her at all.

The court finding is the crime, im trying to make this simpler but you don't seem to get it. "Until he has been found guilty, he is presumed innocent. He has not been found guilty, ergo he is presumed innocent." It's like arguing with legion.

This guy didn't go to court to get custody for the sake of custody. He's didn't go at all, because the custody threat was just a pretext to get rape charges dropped. I don't know why you guys are having so much trouble with this. If the man really wanted anything to do with the child, he'd have Prewitt in court and be fighting both the rape charges and for custody of the baby.