Bill Maher On Islam: "All Religions Are Not Alike"

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On his HBO show "Real Time" this week, host Bill Maher discussed the problem of radical Islam and how he gets booed by liberals for being a critic of the religion. Maher, known for his atheism, does not hold back when he criticizes Islam.

"There is something that I would like to name and that is 9/11 liberals," host of HBO's "Real Time" Maher said to his guest Salman Rushdie this week during a discussion of Islam. "Because, remember the 9/11 conservatives? These were people like, Dennis Miller was one, Ron Silver was on, Rudy Giuliani perhaps. These were people who were like changed by 9/11 but they became conservative, they wanted war."

"9/11 liberals are different," Maher said. "That's like you (Salman Rushdie), me, Chris Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who else? Sam Harris. These are people -- we are liberals, and we are liberals on almost every issue, but not the Muslim issue."

Maher went on to discuss the vitriol from his liberal audiences when he lays into Islam.

"Let's define where we are different than the mainstream liberals because I have routinely gotten booed here on the show sometimes, on my stand-up act, when I say, and liberals hate to hear this, that all religions are not a like. When you say that, they think that you're a bigot and we're not a bigot," Maher said.

Maher says there is something different about Islam, nothing that "there is no other religion that is asking for the death" of people who dare to criticize it.

"You wrote an essay, I think it was an op-ed in the New York Times soon after 9/11, you said and I think it was entitled "Yes, This Is About Islam" because that's the mantra, is that it's not about one religion. And I think that what us 9/11 liberals say is, yes it is about this one religion because it is different. There is no other religion that is asking for the death of people, and Sam Harris say it this week, he said that 'We are free to burn the Koran or any other book. We are free to criticize Muhammad or any other human being. But without apology,'" Maher said on "Real Time."

"The point that Ayaan was making -- this is her Newsweek cover about a week ago (photo of cover) and there a lot of people who reacted to this, 'How dare you do this?' Well, you know that the problem is that liberals see this picture and they go 'this is not all Muslims.' And that is very true. Most Muslims don't go in the street like this. The point that she is making, that I've tried to make, is yeah, but most Muslims, at least half of them, I think, around the world think it is okay to kill somebody if they insult the prophet. And that is a big problem," he said.

"That is a clash of civilizations," Maher declared.

The "Real Time" panel then weighed in on Maher's clash of civilizations observation.

"In the Muslim world, much of it, they can not conceive that something coming out of the United States that wouldn't be sanctioned by the government because in their countries, everything is sanctioned by the government. This is why it's important to keep Kate Middleton's tits in the news because every time they see those pictures of Kate Middleton's tits, it shows that the government doesn't sanction everything," Maher said.

"We in the West are free to do stuff that the government doesn't want," he concluded.

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There are many people who call themselves liberals who allow others to do their thinking for them. It's like a club where you check your brain in on entry and it is taken care of just in case you should ever need it again. It has never ceased to amaze how many people will try to equate Islam with Christianity, Rune is a good example.
 
There are many people who call themselves liberals who allow others to do their thinking for them. It's like a club where you check your brain in on entry and it is taken care of just in case you should ever need it again. It has never ceased to amaze how many people will try to equate Islam with Christianity, Rune is a good example.

Islam is Christianity's little brother, always acting out and throwing tantrums to get attention.

Their much older brother, Judaism, and older cousin, Buddhism, just shake their heads and roll their eyes: "Kids today..."


The Spanish Inquisition lasted up till 1834 don't forget.
 
Maher is expressing his belief...personally I find all religions, particularly Abrahamic religions violent and repressive.
 
"The Last Temptation of Christ" and "Dogma" were heavily picketed and protested. The prick from Westboro calls for the death to queers and Falwell told Orlando that it would be firebombed by God. Make a movie about Joseph Smith and his strange behaviors and let's see what sort of reaction it causes. The Scientologist are very vindictive for even so much as criticizing their faith and there are numerous cases alleging that they have kidnapped and tortured people to death who tried to leave the church. The ADL will come down hard on you if you even criticize the state of Israel.

Certainly, Islam needs to moderate but this pretense that only they can be whipped into a violent frenzy is nonsense.
 
"The Last Temptation of Christ" and "Dogma" were heavily picketed and protested. The prick from Westboro calls for the death to queers and Falwell told Orlando that it would be firebombed by God. Make a movie about Joseph Smith and his strange behaviors and let's see what sort of reaction it causes. The Scientologist are very vindictive for even so much as criticizing their faith and there are numerous cases alleging that they have kidnapped and tortured people to death who tried to leave the church. The ADL will come down hard on you if you even criticize the state of Israel.

Certainly, Islam needs to moderate but this pretense that only they can be whipped into a violent frenzy is nonsense.
Just ask Carter...all you say is true. Thanks for this post.
 
"The Last Temptation of Christ" and "Dogma" were heavily picketed and protested. The prick from Westboro calls for the death to queers and Falwell told Orlando that it would be firebombed by God. Make a movie about Joseph Smith and his strange behaviors and let's see what sort of reaction it causes. The Scientologist are very vindictive for even so much as criticizing their faith and there are numerous cases alleging that they have kidnapped and tortured people to death who tried to leave the church. The ADL will come down hard on you if you even criticize the state of Israel.

Certainly, Islam needs to moderate but this pretense that only they can be whipped into a violent frenzy is nonsense.

Heavily, eh? I think your version of heavily and mine are different. There is currently a production on Broadway about Joseph Smith and his "weird" followers. I haven't seen any news of people killing the people who made it or even people who didn't. People criticize Israel here all the time, no ADL action has been taken that I have seen, nor do I fear any reprisal from it. Scientology is something of its own thing, and yeah, their brainwashed minions seem particularly violent to what Muslims would call "the Apostate"... but it seems more to do with how vocal they are about the extremely secretive religion than it does about them actually leaving the "church".
 
"The Last Temptation of Christ" and "Dogma" were heavily picketed and protested. The prick from Westboro calls for the death to queers and Falwell told Orlando that it would be firebombed by God. Make a movie about Joseph Smith and his strange behaviors and let's see what sort of reaction it causes. The Scientologist are very vindictive for even so much as criticizing their faith and there are numerous cases alleging that they have kidnapped and tortured people to death who tried to leave the church. The ADL will come down hard on you if you even criticize the state of Israel.

Certainly, Islam needs to moderate but this pretense that only they can be whipped into a violent frenzy is nonsense.

not the same. WBC is like the most extreme christians we have right now, and they haven't killed anyone

on a global scale, islam is the major thorn in our side these days, and it's not even close. It is a violent religion with many prole followers. It's a great example of why religion is bad for humanity.
 
Part of the problem of identifying them is they are often 'hate crimes' and of course not recognized as violently religious. They are of course...just look at the KKK and many of the Nazi organizations, the 'patriot' movement...there is a lot of 'christianity' and hate involved. We down play our violently religious.
 
Part of the problem of identifying them is they are often 'hate crimes' and of course not recognized as violently religious. They are of course...just look at the KKK and many of the Nazi organizations, the 'patriot' movement...there is a lot of 'christianity' and hate involved. We down play our violently religious.

Wasn't Tim McVeigh a Christian?
 
Heavily, eh? I think your version of heavily and mine are different. There is currently a production on Broadway about Joseph Smith and his "weird" followers. I haven't seen any news of people killing the people who made it or even people who didn't. People criticize Israel here all the time, no ADL action has been taken that I have seen, nor do I fear any reprisal from it. Scientology is something of its own thing, and yeah, their brainwashed minions seem particularly violent to what Muslims would call "the Apostate"... but it seems more to do with how vocal they are about the extremely secretive religion than it does about them actually leaving the "church".

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And it was explicit about Joseph's sexual deviances? Were there even suggestions of Christ's?

Have you had credible threats from Muslim's? Then what is the relevance of your point about the ADL?

There are cases alleging the imprisonment of people at Ft. Harrison Hotel.

I am not excusing their behavior at all. But let's don't EVEN pretend that a movie depicting the things that one did about numerous religious icons would not cause an uproar and even violence.
 
Every year the library association posts the list of books that the radical religionists want to ban all across the country. There is a version of 'Christianity' that burns books, music, native american artifacts etc. as being of the devil...they actually belief this shit...how far removed would it be to string up cats and people? I find this kind of hysteria around religion, both pro and con, dangerous and a total distraction to the real problems that need to be addressed. Religion is a mind killer.
 
Every year the library associations posts the list of books that the radical religionists want to ban all across the country.

Yeah, Harry Potter... and again, do you have evidence that anybody has been killed over the lists? How about somebody even putting out a "hit" on somebody for picturing one of their prophets in some way?
 
Every year the library associations posts the list of books that the radical religionists want to ban all across the country.

That's true, yet how many Christians have killed someone because they thought a book defamed Jesus?
 
not the same. WBC is like the most extreme christians we have right now, and they haven't killed anyone.

Matthew Shepard or George Tiller. Not saying it was WBC but to pretend people are not being killed here in the name of religion is a bald faced lie.

on a global scale, islam is the major thorn in our side these days, and it's not even close. It is a violent religion with many prole followers. It's a great example of why religion is bad for humanity.

I somewhat agree. Dogmatism is bad for humanity. My point is let's not "sniifffffff ahhhhhh."

Bill Maher is mostly a tool. I agree, with him often. But his presentation is holier than thou and arrogant. He demands dogmatic agreement.
 
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And it was explicit about Joseph's sexual deviances? Were there even suggestions of Christ's?

It's explicit enough that the church takes offense. How many people have been killed over it? Hillary Clinton went, even had pictures taken enthusiastically applauding what is essentially an anti-Mormon play...

Have you had credible threats from Muslim's? Then what is the relevance of your point about the ADL?
You posted that the ADL would come after you if you spoke out against the State of Israel, the relevance is simply stating that so far they haven't. And not yet. Although if we ever hit the news we'd have some, and you know it. They take offense at stupid cartoons let alone what some people say here.

There are cases alleging the imprisonment of people at Ft. Harrison Hotel.

I am not excusing their behavior at all. But let's don't EVEN pretend that a movie depicting the things that one did about numerous religious icons would not cause an uproar and even violence.
Scientology, I did point out that they do this. I'd also point out that it isn't a "major" religion in any way, nor based on even Abrahamic teaching, as well I'd point out again that they are usually directed at people who are vocal about the "secrets" they'd dearly love to keep.
 
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