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Find me a teacher that only works 5.75 hrs a day and I'll kiss your ass.
Oh, and get a number to deduct for the classroom supplies that the teachers have to buy.
Teachers don't do that. Stop lying
Find me a teacher that only works 5.75 hrs a day and I'll kiss your ass.
Oh, and get a number to deduct for the classroom supplies that the teachers have to buy.
Teachers don't do that. Stop lying
They don't? Now you are lying.
Yea...I have a new teacher in the family, and I was thinking back to my highschool days when the day started at 7, and we got out at 2.True there too. My daughter has to be at school by 7am, and gets out at 3. That looks like 8 hrs to me, instead of 5.75 hrs. Who knew the teachers were off the clock for 2.25 hrs every school day?
Yea...I have a new teacher in the family, and I was thinking back to my highschool days when the day started at 7, and we got out at 2.
They don't. Prove it. Show me receipts
Why would that person go into teaching given the horrible working conditions. Sorry, but I don't buy into this exalted status given to teachers. Fuck em. Parents are far more important in a child's education than teachers
LOL! Yeah, that will happen.
But how about links? Proof enough?
http://thejournal.com/articles/2010...ion-out-of-pocket-on-classroom-materials.aspx
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95922&page=1
http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/24/news/economy/public_school_teachers_budgets/index.htm
http://www.vvdailypress.com/articles/classrooms-14043-funds-personal.html
http://staugustine.com/school-news/...ets-tighten-teachers-dig-own-pockets-supplies
http://articles.kwch.com/2010-09-09/teachers-spending_24081876
Is that enough or do you need more links? It is a widely known fact that most teachers spend money out of their own pocket for classroom supplies. That you deny it is laughable and shows how disconnected you are.
Because for many people, the paycheck is not the sum total of the reason they work. Many people, teachers, social workers, therapists, firemen, cops, and others, do what they do so they can make a difference. That is not to say that the pittance we pay teachers isn't shameful, considering they are one of the big deciding factors in how our futures will be.
No one is downplaying the importance of parents. But those parents are doing what they do for THEIR child. Teachers do it for someone else's children.
Receipts. This is all bullshit
The reality is we don't pay them a "pittance", that their unions have negotiated a heavily backend advantage to their contracts doesn't change that teachers after a time make decent money and often outstrip those in private industry with equivalent degrees.
Their unions have negotiated away some current benefits so that they can receive a massive retirement at the back end, as well as pay increases that make it a worthwhile profession after about 12 years where they make equivalent or more than counterparts in the private sector.
Because for many people, the paycheck is not the sum total of the reason they work. Many people, teachers, social workers, therapists, firemen, cops, and others, do what they do so they can make a difference. That is not to say that the pittance we pay teachers isn't shameful, considering they are one of the big deciding factors in how our futures will be.
No one is downplaying the importance of parents. But those parents are doing what they do for THEIR child. Teachers do it for someone else's children.
I stand corrected. I was wrong to call it a pittance. The trick is how to keep teachers in the system for 12 years without them burning out.
The reality is we don't pay them a "pittance", that their unions have negotiated a heavily backend advantage to their contracts doesn't change that teachers after a time make decent money and often outstrip those in private industry with equivalent degrees.
Their unions have negotiated away some current benefits so that they can receive a massive retirement at the back end, as well as pay increases that make it a worthwhile profession after about 12 years where they make equivalent or more than counterparts in the private sector.
The idea that everybody has ignored them for centuries is a bit much. People respect teachers, at least all the people that I choose to hang with do, and wouldn't treat them as crappily as people read about so often when talking about stuff like this.
It is also a myth that none of them get reimbursed for continuing education classes. In almost every school district you fill out forms and as long as it is a requisite course you get reimbursed. Amazingly they also often get to take these courses off on their taxes as well, up to $10,000, but most require only six credit hours over five years and to do the requisite course work you will never spend that much.
They have massive incentive to get their Masters Degree as the pay difference is HUGE at the top end of the scale, therefore most teachers will have one of these...
Even in a poor district, like ours, if you are buying supplies you can fill out reimbursement forms. So far not one of my wife's have been rejected.
It must be handy to oversimplify everything. I guess that makes it easier for you to understand.
No, the teachers do not change any of the facts. But they do change how those facts are presented in order to get the students to learn. YOu know what learning is, right? That thing everyone else did and left you behind back in grade school?
Well in a rich state like mine, teachers don't get re-imbursed for suppies, so they ask parents for donations.
Well in a rich state like mine, teachers don't get re-imbursed for suppies, so they ask parents for donations.
170 days....10 days less that the national average
5 hr. 45 min. school day
but regardless.....if those figures are right....is that a fair wage to pay the average teacher....before the cost of benefits.
You fund your own districts, if you feel they are inadequately funded then change it. Education is a local power, not one of the federal government. There is this document that lists the specific powers of the federal government, Education isn't one of them.
While teachers and districts do sometimes either request fees or donations, it doesn't mean that they cannot be reimbursed for supplies, or even suppies(sic).