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Now, back to your regularly-scheduled topic:
Ask Osama bin Laden if he is better off now than he was four years ago
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I do appreciate that you've actually tried to debate this civilly, but perhaps I can share a bit of circumstantial evidence that I've observed.
My question was real simple and one that you need not be a "truther" to ask .. and, more importantly, a question that is not easily answered .. obviously. In fact, no one has given a logic answer to yet. How could this possibly be given the magnitude given by the press to his death? How is that possible?
Who told Americans it was Bin Laden? The FBI didn't. Bush didn't. Cheney didn't. Powell didn't. Rice didn't.
The answer is that Americans don't really care if he was guilty or not, don't care where they heard it from. He provides a symbol of the evil of 9/11. He is the bearded boogeyman provided to them to ease their fears and to close the door to the rabbit hole. He is dead and heroes have been made.
Oh yeah .. the other evil boogeymen of 9/11, Al Queda? They are our friends now. We used them to destroy Libya and forment unrest in Syria. Can I prove that .. of course I can. But what good is proof in the land of Oz where truth strikes terror in the minds of the confused? :0)
Oh wait .. can't leave out the other nasty boogeymen of 9/11 .. the mean ol' Taliban .. who used to be our friends. After all, we've been fighting the longest war in American history against these nasty people .. but now we're in "reconcilliation talks" with them .. although we've just complicated those talks by declaring a new boogeyman, the Haqqanis
Beware the Haqqanis. We're going to have to drone 'dem bastards into being our friends. :0) At 20 million a pop for a drone.
Welcome to the Matrix.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I understand what the program says brother. I understand the programming.
Sort of like, "Obama ended the Iraq War."
No he didn't. The Status of Forces Agreement ended the Iraq War.
Obama followed it to the letter.
Truth and political campaigns .. oil and water brother.
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would like to see the quotes by bush and cheney claiming OBL had nothing to do or not connected with 9/11.
"given that Bin Laden was not involved in 9/11" - BAC
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.Next bac will tell us Bush/Cheney did it.....
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Already provided Cheney's .. but it's an easy search.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
"given that Bin Laden was not involved in 9/11" - BAC
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Exactly the kind of schoolboy response I expected from you brother. :0)
Cartoons really suit you.
No, seriously .. cartoons are you. :0)
evince
Truthmatters
And, of course we know, Cheney never gets bogus intell.....i.e.
"There is no doubt, that Saddam is amassing [weapons of mass destruction] to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.” ..Dick Cheney
A statement showing a magnitude of stupidity bordering the colossal, such as yours does, doesn't deserve a serious response....it deserves cartoons...
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i read your post again and still can't find cheney's quote. i did try and find both their quotes and could not.
you made the claim, i would appreciate it if you could back it up. it would sway my opinion if they both said that. thank you.
Did you listen to what Cheney said.....he said we did not have positive proof that OBL was responsible for 9/11.....
That is a far cry from your flat out claim that OBL was not involved in 9/11....
They are totally 2 different claims.
cheney made that statement in 2006......I believe that OBL has since, actually admitted and confessed to his guilt in the 9/11 murders.....
When did you start believing a single word Cheney said? I know I never have.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Then you show me the evidence that he was involved.
I've already demonstrated that neither the Bush Administration, the FBI, nor any terrorism investigative entity on the planet have put forth the proof/evidence that you claim exists.
When there is no evidence of guilt, especially when so THOROUGHLY investigated by the FBI .. in legal terms, that's called INNOCENT.
It should be real simple for you to produce evidence since you so vehemently jumped on a real simple question.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I don't.
But would he cover up for Bin Laden?
I don't think so .. unless he knows something he's not saying.
Sorry BAC, as much as I love you, in my narrow little mind, this comes under the quacks like a duck thing, until proven otherwise.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I have just as much love for you brother as I did before you called me a duck. :0)
just kiddin'
I have no problem with what you believe my friend .. but the fact that you cannot answer the question only solidifies what I believe.
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blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Sorry, I missed this post.
The 'FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11'. Vice President Cheney says, 'We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11'
When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on the FBI's web page, Rex Tomb, the FBI's Chief of Investigative Publicity, is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."
"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States." -- Usama Bin Laden
Experts dismiss the video tape "found in a house in Jalalabad", Afghanistan, which allegedly shows Bin Laden confessing to the September 11 attacks. In a December 20, 2001, broadcast by German TV channel Das Erste "two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House's translation not only to be inaccurate, but manipulative."
FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."
Now we get down to who told the American people that Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11.
Bin Laden is the "prime suspect" in the September 11 attacks, said President Bush on September 17, 2001, and he pledged to capture him "dead or alive."
"I am absolutely convinced that the al-Qaida network, which he heads, was responsible for this attack," Secretary of State Colin Powell said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Powell said the government would "put before the world, the American people, a persuasive case that ... it is al-Qaida, led by Osama bin Laden, who has been responsible."
On October 7, 2001, the U.S. military began operation Operation Enduring Freedom - a war on Afghanistan.
The evidence against Bin Laden, promised by Secretary of State Colin Powell on September 23, 2001, has yet to be made available to the public.
On March 29, 2006, on The Tony Snow Show, Vice President Dick Cheney stated: "We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html
Who do you think Cheney was talking about when he said we?
Bush Tells Barnes Capturing Bin Laden Is ‘Not A Top Priority Use of American Resources’
Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes appeared on Fox this morning to discuss his recent meeting with President Bush in the Oval Office. The key takeaway for Barnes was that “bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.” Barnes said that Bush told him capturing bin Laden is “not a top priority use of American resources.”
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2006/09/14/7472/barnes-osama/
Confused?
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that is damning evidence from cheney. that gives me pause on the issue.
i still do not see a bush quote, the quote you put up has bush saying OBL is a prime suspect.
thanks for the quote, that does change my opinion of OBL's guilt. i can't believe cheney said that, after leading us into two wars based on OBL's guilt. that is disgusting.
i still do not see a bush quote, the quote you put up has bush saying OBL is a prime suspect.
thanks for the quote, that does change my opinion of OBL's guilt. i can't believe cheney said that, after leading us into two wars based on OBL's guilt. that is disgusting.