Let's get some reality

The_Pilgrim said:
In order to vote for Obama, you have to pretend the last four years of failure never happened.

Of course, for Liberals, History began yesterday...
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Or...

We hang the "failures" of the last four years where they belong.

Around the necks of obstructionist Righties who have killed everything the President tried to do over the past four years to help the country.
 
I have no problem voting for Obama again. I have educated myself throughout his term on what he accomplished. My eyes were wide open when the obstructionists became "the party of no." I damn near howled with anger when they refused to vote on the AJA. I was stunned when they ignored jobs, and went after reproductive rights. And I'm done. Done. They have done enough damage to destroy their party forever, and I've been a first-person witness to said damage.

They had their chance.
 
Unk said:
I have no problem voting for Obama again. I have educated myself throughout his term on what he accomplished. My eyes were wide open when the obstructionists became "the party of no." I damn near howled with anger when they refused to vote on the AJA. I was stunned when they ignored jobs, and went after reproductive rights. And I'm done. Done. They have done enough damage to destroy their party forever, and I've been a first-person witness to said damage.

They had their chance.
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:rofl2:
 
cawacko said:
I'm sure there's no way to know this but I'd be curious out of the viewers how many are political partisans/junkies like us vs. how many were undecided or maybe leaning voting one way but still weren't sure?

Of course many who didn't watch will either read about the speeches in the paper or see highlights of the speeches on the news but I was thinking strictly in terms of those who sat down to watch the convention.
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There's a large contingent that doesn't follow anything in depth...the way we do.

This is the demographic the super pacs target, as outright lies are extremely effective.

Given the fact that Clinton debunked each and every bold faced lie that was told at the RNC, that mis/uninformed demographic can at least make their decision based on the truth...not the best story money can buy.
 
enough said:
i didn't mean just jpp as i figured you were not referring solely to jpp...cite anywhere...or are you saying it was only those on AOL? if so, then saying you guys here does not make any sense.
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Palin Assails Critics and Electrifies Party

ST. PAUL — Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska introduced herself to America before a roaring crowd at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night as “just your average hockey mom” who was as qualified as the Democratic nominee, Senator Barack Obama, to be president of the United States.

An hour later Senator John McCain, a scrappy, rebellious former prisoner of war in Vietnam whose campaign was resurrected from near-death a year ago, was nominated by the Republican Party to be the 44th president of the United States after asking the cheering delegates, “Do you think we made the right choice” in picking Ms. Palin as the vice-presidential nominee?

The roll-call vote made Mr. McCain, 72, the first Republican presidential candidate to share the ticket with a woman and only the second presidential candidate from a major party to do so, after Walter F. Mondale selected Geraldine A. Ferraro as his running mate for the Democratic ticket in 1984...

...Ms. Palin’s speech was the big draw of a convention night notable for not a single mention from the stage of the unpopular president, George W. Bush, who addressed the delegates Tuesday via satellite from the White House after the hurricane forced him to cancel his appearance...

...Delegates said they were enthralled by Ms. Palin. "I think she’s great; she’s giving it back to the Democrats for all the sorry things they’ve said about her and about America," said Anita Bargas, a delegate from Angleton, Tex. "She’s a conservative, and she has a great sense of humor."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04repubday.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www
 
christiefan915 said:
Palin Assails Critics and Electrifies Party

ST. PAUL — Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska introduced herself to America before a roaring crowd at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night as “just your average hockey mom” who was as qualified as the Democratic nominee, Senator Barack Obama, to be president of the United States.

An hour later Senator John McCain, a scrappy, rebellious former prisoner of war in Vietnam whose campaign was resurrected from near-death a year ago, was nominated by the Republican Party to be the 44th president of the United States after asking the cheering delegates, “Do you think we made the right choice” in picking Ms. Palin as the vice-presidential nominee?

The roll-call vote made Mr. McCain, 72, the first Republican presidential candidate to share the ticket with a woman and only the second presidential candidate from a major party to do so, after Walter F. Mondale selected Geraldine A. Ferraro as his running mate for the Democratic ticket in 1984...

...Ms. Palin’s speech was the big draw of a convention night notable for not a single mention from the stage of the unpopular president, George W. Bush, who addressed the delegates Tuesday via satellite from the White House after the hurricane forced him to cancel his appearance...

...Delegates said they were enthralled by Ms. Palin. "I think she’s great; she’s giving it back to the Democrats for all the sorry things they’ve said about her and about America," said Anita Bargas, a delegate from Angleton, Tex. "She’s a conservative, and she has a great sense of humor."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04repubday.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www
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thanks christie. i don't see, however, where your link backs up your claim that people are voting on a speech or a RNC convention. it does not say people voted because of her speech or the convention.

see your post 20.

btw...are you ever going to answer what percent of your net worth you pay in taxes?
 
Unk said:
I have no problem voting for Obama again. I have educated myself throughout his term on what he accomplished. My eyes were wide open when the obstructionists became "the party of no." I damn near howled with anger when they refused to vote on the AJA. I was stunned when they ignored jobs, and went after reproductive rights. And I'm done. Done. They have done enough damage to destroy their party forever, and I've been a first-person witness to said damage.

They had their chance.
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imagine that....another liberal blaming someone else and not taking responsibility. dems had the WH and all of congress for nearly two years.

your hope don't float.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Or...

We hang the "failures" of the last four years where they belong.

Around the necks of obstructionist Righties who have killed everything the President tried to do over the past four years to help the country.
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So, how do you explain Obamacare? And how do you explain 2 years of total control of Congress, yet the Dems' only "accomplishment" was Obamacare? And how do you explain the huge economic crash and burn when Democrats took over Congress during Bush's second term?

Or can you explain anything beyond your silly talking points?

Thought so...
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Around the necks of obstructionist Righties who have killed everything the President tried to do over the past four years to help the country.
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if only we had been so fortunate as to kill everything he tried to do........he managed to get enough past us to fuck up the country for a long, long time....
 
Unk said:
He put the big one out there, and the party of No said no. This remains on them.
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lol.....didn't answer the question, just posted another meme, if you're talking about his 2nd stimulus plan budget, even his own party didn't vote for it..........fix Medicare?....NO.....fix Social Security?....NO......fix the tax structure?.......NO.....fix education?......NO......should we have a budget?.....NO........we know who the party of NO is.......and it isn't who you pretend it is....
 
Oh, blessed peace. I waited way too long on this one. One more round of the c-word, and I'd have thrown a shoe through my monitor. Christ, for deranged.

How the fuck do you find your way to the keyboard every morning?
 
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