Who is the real extremist on abortion?

PostmodernProphet said:
I find it ironic that apple is the star in a thread asking who the real abortion extremist is.....
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Oh, yes. I'm a real extremist saying things like babies are born and pregnancy/the making of a baby is a process that involves time. The anti-abortionist argument is just another take on the semi-religious "popping into existence" nonsense that has been dragged down through the ages. Whether it's souls entering bodies at quickening, apparently doing a Michael Jackson moon walk so mamma knows the soul has arrived, or some chemical reaction fertilizing a cell and, POOF, a baby appears society has progressed past that point. Of course, it was all an attempt to control and dominate women. Strike a little fear in their hearts should they ever decide they want to enjoy sex for the pleasure of sex alone. Depending on the culture they were ostracised, condemned to poverty, branded, beaten and even killed...to this very day!

Sorry, but I will contest such archaic thinking not just for the lady's sake but for my own. When a woman wants to offer her body to me I'll be damned if other poeple will put resrictions on her ability to do so or impose consequences for her actions. When a woman offers her body to me it becomes my gift and I get quite ornery when others try to interfere in the greatest of all gifts a man can receive.

On that note it's time to run a few errands and count my gifts....err, blessings. :)
 
apple0154 said:
And sedating/euthanizing the fetus before an abortion takes place would remove any chance of that happening in the future. There would be no more live birth abortions. There would be no more silent screams. Of course, once that discussion came up instead of people working together to craft a policy the whole can of worms would be reopened. There would be no consensus and the problems would remain.

The exact same thing as what occurred when discussing ObamaCare. Some people had no intention of ensuring everyone had medical coverage so they had no beneficial input.

One doesn't have to be psychic to know what would happen if sedating/euthanizing the fetus came up for discussion. Some folks would prefer the problems persist rather than eliminate one of their arguments against abortion hoping they will eventually get their way. Same old Repub tactic of which Obama is well aware.
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Totally irrelevant to my post....your response has nothing to do with Obama and his vote, nothing....
You just change the subject to avoid admitting you've been schooled. I'll tie it together for you....

To respond to your new subject, why would you sedate a lump of cells that according to you isn't even human....isn't a baby ?
And whats this 'silent scream'....do lumps of cells scream...?
Will you and your daughter or daughter in law, have a funeral for this lump of cells if some mis -fortune occurs ?....
Will you tell her its nothing, to just dump it in the garbage or flush the lump down the toilet......?

Euthanizing the fetus ? Is that suppose to be different than abortion ?.....You're not only a fool, but a stupid fool.
Euthanize is defined as 'mercy killing'....or 'painless death'.....

Is it necessary to 'euthanize' an inhuman lump of cells ?....at 8 3/4 months ?....7 months ?....5 months ?.....5 minutes ?
Must you show mercy to a lump of cells ?
Does a lump of cells require a painless death.....assuming you admit it is alive to begin with.
Does a lump of cells feel pain......

One second its inside the womb, the next is outside....if killing it is the desired conclusion, what difference does a few seconds make....so whats the problem.. ?
Thats was Obama's reasoning.....the ends justify the means.....

At least you're in the right political party......stay there....you belong there.....
 
apple0154 said:
Of course I will be unhappy if she loses the fetus BUT my sadness would not mean I lost a grandchild. There was no grandchild. The process involved in the making of a grandchild would have been stopped.

If I was starting to build a house and had the foundation put in and a box of tools I left there were stolen I wouldn't say my home was robbed because there wasn't any home. There was a hole in the ground made of concrete. That's it. The construction site where my home is being built was robbed. The construction site. Not my home because there wasn't any home.

The same applies to a grandchild. If there is no birth there is no grandchild. My daughter-in-law had an ultrasound. The doctor said that while everything looks good they can not determine the sex with 100% accuracy due to the position of the fetus. While it looks like a boy they can't be 100% sure so should someone ask if I have a grandchild and after I reply in the affirmative they ask if it's a boy or girl I'd have to say no one knows. :rofl2: Yep, that conversation would certainly win friends and influence people.

Babies have to be born just as corpses have had to die before they were considered a corpse. A person on their death bed is not a corpse even thought they will be in a matter of hours. Why do you insist on perverting logic?

And as for praying thank God my son and daughter-in-law are not religious wackos!
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Why would reply in the affirmative ?......Are you just a natural hypocrite ? a typical lefty coward ?......Just tell them NO, like you say here.....and to show a little fuckin' guts, explain it all to them as you do here....

Thats will be the conversation would certainly win friends and influence people. I'd live to witness that little get together......and probably see
them try to have you committed to nearest asylum.....

And think about it, wackos are wackos, religious or not ......
 
Bijou said:
What a whackjob you are. :rofl2:

Hiya Pimp!

I thought you were going somewhere? :D
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1) you haven't been here long,
2) you aren't very attentive...

thus you probably don't know about apple's philosophy regarding why its better to abort a child who won't be happy....

of course, a liberal bitch like you doesn't care anyway.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
1) you haven't been here long,
2) you aren't very attentive...

thus you probably don't know about apple's philosophy regarding why its better to abort a child who won't be happy....

of course, a liberal bitch like you doesn't care anyway.....
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You didn't answer my question.

I thought you were going somewhere? Where are you going? :D
 
Bijou said:
You didn't answer my question.

I thought you were going somewhere? Where are you going? :D
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I'm not going anywhere....I expected you were, since in the past when someone went so far over the bar as to accuse them of pedophilia they got an enforced vacation......I'm not sure why it hasn't happened to you yet, but I'm assuming its still in the works.....if not, I'll deal with you myself....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I'm not going anywhere....I expected you were, since in the past when someone went so far over the bar as to accuse them of pedophilia they got an enforced vacation......I'm not sure why it hasn't happened to you yet, but I'm assuming its still in the works.....if not, I'll deal with you myself....
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I'm not going anywhere, retard. That comes from on high. So get used to me in your face, retard. Keep demonstrating what a good lil' Christian you are and 'deal' with me. :rofl2:
 
Bijou said:
I'm not going anywhere, retard. That comes from on high. So get used to me in your face, retard. Keep demonstrating what a good lil' Christian you are and 'deal' with me. :rofl2:
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so be it.....if that's the way it's going to be I will....you showed up here thinking you were hot shit.....you've contributed nothing to this board except dissension and grief....you're dimwitted, short-sighted, an abject and compulsive liar......you've accused me of pedophilia for no reason whatsoever......you are a cunt of the first degree and deserve be treated accordingly.....now shove that up your ass and stand taller.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
so be it.....if that's the way it's going to be I will....you showed up here thinking you were hot shit.....you've contributed nothing to this board except dissension and grief....you're dimwitted, short-sighted, an abject and compulsive liar......you've accused me of pedophilia for no reason whatsoever......you are a cunt of the first degree and deserve be treated accordingly.....now shove that up your ass and stand taller.....
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My, my.

You're making baby Jesus cry with all that hateful spew.

:rofl2:
 
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