Bob is a Racist!

'Give me a boy till he is seven and I will give you the man' has become an extremely tired saying, but it is as true now as at any time.
When I was a boy it was not uncommon to read stories of niggers and piccaninnies and pigmies and fuzzy wuzzies. We had just fought a war agains the jerries who had Benito Mussilini and the rest of the wops on their side. The nips bombed the yanks at Pearl Harbour and wogs started at Calais.
Now we have grown up a bit , but the lessons of those early years are still alive (as is, by the way, the lesson that smoking is cool and probably good for one).
So anyone of a certain age is more likely than not to show definite signs of what we NOW call racism. Fortunately the human mind has a tremendous potential for accepting change and we now know that to judge people by their race is wrong, but those seven years are still there.
Right, that is the contention on which this relies.

People half my age were brought up without those trigger words and without those story books and many youngsters, if not all, are genuinely not racist.

Sometime round about the time of the birth of rock and roll we realised that entertainers of different races were entertaining. Caruso, Little Richard, Fats Domino, the Bolshoi Ballet, South American band leaders, etc. And then came what we might call the age of enlightenment.

This was a time when we decided that to give offence to people who were different was bad. We didn't talk about 'that black pianist', we talked about the fantastic Fats Domino. We didn't talk about Jerries or Krauts, or Wops, or Spics, of Chinks, or nips, we talked about Mr (Herr if we were to be strictly correct) Adeneur, General de Gaulle, etc. And we made a conscious effort to refer to people in non racial terms.

So what has happened to those who are still racist, not by default, but by design and intent. They, I guess, are simply people who have been bypassed by the decency of the rest of the human race, they are people who live in societies where perhaps there was a dearth of new blood. Static societies (I'm not saying in-bred - I'll leave that to you).
These people exist in all societies, but there appears to be evidence that what is widely referred to as the 'Bible Belt' of America has more than its fair share yet there is no international correlation between racism and American christianity.

So we may be a little hasty when we stick the term 'racist' to the more senior members of forums such as this. Like the dinosaurs they will die out and when there are no more racists then another societal problem will develop.
So have patience, my young friends. Chastise if you will, lose your tempers and throw rocks if you must, but only time will rid the planet of this horror.

They had us til we were seven. We are the men (and the women) they turned out. We know how wrong it is and we, most of us anyway, try not to cause offence by using racist terms.

However.... Stoopid is not a matter of race and, as John Cleese said not long ago, America has become the land of the stupid (or words to that effect). So you will not see me suddenly become nice to many Americans, but I truly hope I do not offend anyone because of their (or my) race.
 
'Give me a boy till he is seven and I will give you the man'

Yes, I think this idea was popular among the Greek.

What I can remember from my 'formative' years, living in Birmingham, Alabama, is the snapshots. I can recall going to the matinee downtown at the Alabama Theater (which is still there), with my mom and little sister, we would take the bus. I remember seeing black people in the seats behind us, unlike most people who would cheerfully strike up a conversation, the black people wouldn't even make eye contact, it was as if they were ashamed or scared to talk, and I remember thinking how odd that was. Why were they so distant, why wouldn't they talk to me like most other older people? Of course, later I would learn of what they were going through at the time, and I understood, but as a small child, it made no sense to me. I can remember my dad borrowing a shotgun from my uncle, and sitting on the front porch all night one summer to guard the house. I thought that was odd, who was going to do us harm? We hadn't done anything wrong, just people living our lives. There was civil unrest, there had been riots, and my father (like many) thought the turmoil might erupt into a full-blown race war. Of course, at 5-years-old, I was too young to know what was going on. Just up the street from where we lived, about 4 blocks away, was what people referred to as "the colored quarters." I was very familiar with this area, we had to go through there to get to our home, there were other ways to go, but that was the quickest route. I only knew one person who lived there, a boy named Roland. My best friend lived halfway up the street, about 2 blocks from 'colored quarters' where Roland lived. My friend was Jewish, and his parents didn't have a prejudiced bone in their body, so Roland would often be over there playing with the rest of us, just like any other kid. I think it was my 7th birthday, I had invited Roland to my birthday party, but he didn't come. I couldn't understand why, and he later told me it was because his mom wouldn't let him. Again, this just seemed so odd to me at the time, it would take years before I understood. Why wouldn't a parent let their kid go to a free birthday party? It made no sense to my 7-yr-old mind. So that's my perspective of the first 7.. confused.

So anyone of a certain age is more likely than not to show definite signs of what we NOW call racism.

Growing up in Alabama, I certainly knew people who were my father's age, that were racist. Especially by today's standard. My grandmother called them 'nigrahs', she didn't mean anything by it, she was not racist, it's just what they were called in her day. But I saw parents of friends and others, who were full of hate and anger at the blacks, and I never understood it, had they been wronged? Did they have some reason to hate all black people? I couldn't comprehend it at all. My best friend in 6th grade was a black boy named Wendell. He came and spent the night with us once, and I went and spent the night with him. That's when I discovered how differently black people lived. I remember Wendell had taken his bath, and when he finished, he told me to 'go on and get yours while the water is still warm!' (meaning for me to use his old bath water, as their family routinely did) but his mother interrupted, "don't be ridiculous Wendell, he doesn't want to bathe in your filthy water, we'll run him a fresh tub." It didn't matter to me, I had shared bath water before with my sister, at my aunt's house, in fact, we had to bathe in a washtub, and the water was heated on a wood stove. When you've bathed in your sister's bathwater, you can bathe in anyone's bathwater, that was how I saw it... at least Wendell probably didn't pee in it!

Fortunately the human mind has a tremendous potential for accepting change and we now know that to judge people by their race is wrong, but those seven years are still there.
Right, that is the contention on which this relies.

People half my age were brought up without those trigger words and without those story books and many youngsters, if not all, are genuinely not racist.

The human mind also has the capacity to be deceptive regarding our darkest secrets. Many people are indeed prejudiced toward people unlike themselves, but they realize this is viewed by society as wrong, so they will hide this, never publicly show their true feelings, say the right things, put on airs, or even show 'support' for things, to mask what they really feel inside. I was brought up listening to Uncle Remus stories, which I truly LOVED! It's odd that we were actually being entertained by 'ebonics' before it was even a word. Those books are long gone now, banished from our lexicon because they were thought to be racist and insensitive, and perhaps they were, but to someone who wasn't the least bit racist, they were entertaining and funny stories, always with a profound moral point to make.

So what has happened to those who are still racist, not by default, but by design and intent. They, I guess, are simply people who have been bypassed by the decency of the rest of the human race, they are people who live in societies where perhaps there was a dearth of new blood.

Or perhaps they never learned to mask their prejudices and say the 'right' things?

These people exist in all societies, but there appears to be evidence that what is widely referred to as the 'Bible Belt' of America has more than its fair share yet there is no international correlation between racism and American christianity.

This is frankly just not true. Go to Boston, you'll find all kinds of racists there. They are on the police force in LA, they nearly beat Rodney King to death. We find evidence of racism everywhere in America, but the South often takes the brunt of blame. There is no correlation between racism and Christianity, or the South. This is a myth, and one that is often used by other racists to mask their own racist thoughts and sentiments. Hey look at them! I'm saying the right things, I am talking the talk! THEY are the racists, not me!

So we may be a little hasty when we stick the term 'racist' to the more senior members of forums such as this.

It's more than haste, when you accuse someone falsely of being racist. In fact, it has more in common with actual bigoted racism than you'd like to admit. People oppose Obama's policies, so they are branded "racists" because of that. Not because they've articulated racist thoughts or sentiments, but because they are different. Just as people of color were once called a particular name because they were different. Dr. King said we should judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, and this is important because character doesn't lie. You can't mask character by 'saying the right thing' or pointing to a geographical area as the source of all the problems. I would take Dr. King's point to another level as well, we shouldn't judge people on their politics, religion, heritage, or anything other than their character. It's bigoted, prejudiced and wrong to do so.

Like the dinosaurs they will die out and when there are no more racists then another societal problem will develop.

This won't ever happen. We may become so politically correct that we seldom witness actual racism, but that doesn't mean it's not there. We can burn the Uncle Remus books, we can ban the Confederate flag, we can teach our children the South is responsible for racism, and we can listen to black artists and say all the right things, but none of this addresses what is in our hearts. Where this shows up, is in the content of our character, as Dr. King so brilliantly hit on. There will still be people who have racial prejudice thousands of years from now, just because we find new ways to mask it and hide it from public view, doesn't mean it ceases to exist. As a civil society, we'd be much better off to admit that most everyone has some degree of prejudice, whether it is mild or raging, it is there.

So you will not see me suddenly become nice to many Americans, but I truly hope I do not offend anyone because of their (or my) race.

Spoken like a true bigot! Yes, why should you be nice to "stoopid Americans" who you don't know? They are different than you! Where you have 'learned' to say the right things, to support the proper causes, others are too dumb to figure it out! Maybe in time, we can brainwash everyone into believing it doesn't matter how racist your heart is, as long as you don't show it in public? Maybe by repeating the myths about The South, we can hang the yoke of racism around their necks, absolving ourselves of any guilt for what we actually feel in our own hearts? After all, it's perfectly fine to discriminate and be prejudiced toward entire groups of people based on stereotypes and fear, as long as we don't publicly admit these sentiments regarding those black people. Isn't that right?
 
Yes, I think this idea was popular among the Greek.

What I can remember from my 'formative' years, living in Birmingham, Alabama, is the snapshots. I can recall going to the matinee downtown at the Alabama Theater (which is still there), with my mom and little sister, we would take the bus. I remember seeing black people in the seats behind us, unlike most people who would cheerfully strike up a conversation, the black people wouldn't even make eye contact, it was as if they were ashamed or scared to talk, and I remember thinking how odd that was. Why were they so distant, why wouldn't they talk to me like most other older people? Of course, later I would learn of what they were going through at the time, and I understood, but as a small child, it made no sense to me. I can remember my dad borrowing a shotgun from my uncle, and sitting on the front porch all night one summer to guard the house. I thought that was odd, who was going to do us harm? We hadn't done anything wrong, just people living our lives. There was civil unrest, there had been riots, and my father (like many) thought the turmoil might erupt into a full-blown race war. Of course, at 5-years-old, I was too young to know what was going on. Just up the street from where we lived, about 4 blocks away, was what people referred to as "the colored quarters." I was very familiar with this area, we had to go through there to get to our home, there were other ways to go, but that was the quickest route. I only knew one person who lived there, a boy named Roland. My best friend lived halfway up the street, about 2 blocks from 'colored quarters' where Roland lived. My friend was Jewish, and his parents didn't have a prejudiced bone in their body, so Roland would often be over there playing with the rest of us, just like any other kid. I think it was my 7th birthday, I had invited Roland to my birthday party, but he didn't come. I couldn't understand why, and he later told me it was because his mom wouldn't let him. Again, this just seemed so odd to me at the time, it would take years before I understood. Why wouldn't a parent let their kid go to a free birthday party? It made no sense to my 7-yr-old mind. So that's my perspective of the first 7.. confused.



Growing up in Alabama, I certainly knew people who were my father's age, that were racist. Especially by today's standard. My grandmother called them 'nigrahs', she didn't mean anything by it, she was not racist, it's just what they were called in her day. But I saw parents of friends and others, who were full of hate and anger at the blacks, and I never understood it, had they been wronged? Did they have some reason to hate all black people? I couldn't comprehend it at all. My best friend in 6th grade was a black boy named Wendell. He came and spent the night with us once, and I went and spent the night with him. That's when I discovered how differently black people lived. I remember Wendell had taken his bath, and when he finished, he told me to 'go on and get yours while the water is still warm!' (meaning for me to use his old bath water, as their family routinely did) but his mother interrupted, "don't be ridiculous Wendell, he doesn't want to bathe in your filthy water, we'll run him a fresh tub." It didn't matter to me, I had shared bath water before with my sister, at my aunt's house, in fact, we had to bathe in a washtub, and the water was heated on a wood stove. When you've bathed in your sister's bathwater, you can bathe in anyone's bathwater, that was how I saw it... at least Wendell probably didn't pee in it!



The human mind also has the capacity to be deceptive regarding our darkest secrets. Many people are indeed prejudiced toward people unlike themselves, but they realize this is viewed by society as wrong, so they will hide this, never publicly show their true feelings, say the right things, put on airs, or even show 'support' for things, to mask what they really feel inside. I was brought up listening to Uncle Remus stories, which I truly LOVED! It's odd that we were actually being entertained by 'ebonics' before it was even a word. Those books are long gone now, banished from our lexicon because they were thought to be racist and insensitive, and perhaps they were, but to someone who wasn't the least bit racist, they were entertaining and funny stories, always with a profound moral point to make.



Or perhaps they never learned to mask their prejudices and say the 'right' things?



This is frankly just not true. Go to Boston, you'll find all kinds of racists there. They are on the police force in LA, they nearly beat Rodney King to death. We find evidence of racism everywhere in America, but the South often takes the brunt of blame. There is no correlation between racism and Christianity, or the South. This is a myth, and one that is often used by other racists to mask their own racist thoughts and sentiments. Hey look at them! I'm saying the right things, I am talking the talk! THEY are the racists, not me!



It's more than haste, when you accuse someone falsely of being racist. In fact, it has more in common with actual bigoted racism than you'd like to admit. People oppose Obama's policies, so they are branded "racists" because of that. Not because they've articulated racist thoughts or sentiments, but because they are different. Just as people of color were once called a particular name because they were different. Dr. King said we should judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, and this is important because character doesn't lie. You can't mask character by 'saying the right thing' or pointing to a geographical area as the source of all the problems. I would take Dr. King's point to another level as well, we shouldn't judge people on their politics, religion, heritage, or anything other than their character. It's bigoted, prejudiced and wrong to do so.



This won't ever happen. We may become so politically correct that we seldom witness actual racism, but that doesn't mean it's not there. We can burn the Uncle Remus books, we can ban the Confederate flag, we can teach our children the South is responsible for racism, and we can listen to black artists and say all the right things, but none of this addresses what is in our hearts. Where this shows up, is in the content of our character, as Dr. King so brilliantly hit on. There will still be people who have racial prejudice thousands of years from now, just because we find new ways to mask it and hide it from public view, doesn't mean it ceases to exist. As a civil society, we'd be much better off to admit that most everyone has some degree of prejudice, whether it is mild or raging, it is there.



Spoken like a true bigot! Yes, why should you be nice to "stoopid Americans" who you don't know? They are different than you! Where you have 'learned' to say the right things, to support the proper causes, others are too dumb to figure it out! Maybe in time, we can brainwash everyone into believing it doesn't matter how racist your heart is, as long as you don't show it in public? Maybe by repeating the myths about The South, we can hang the yoke of racism around their necks, absolving ourselves of any guilt for what we actually feel in our own hearts? After all, it's perfectly fine to discriminate and be prejudiced toward entire groups of people based on stereotypes and fear, as long as we don't publicly admit these sentiments regarding those black people. Isn't that right?


In any exchange with LowIQ, you have to remember that he's just a bitter old man who is still upset over the fact that Great Britain is now the Once Great Britain.

Well, that and the little thing about his father being an American GI.
 
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As if YOU even watched the video!
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Dude, I watched the stupid video .. and I get the bullshit it's trying to suggest. It's bullshit.

I don't support Obama .. AND, I post far more real criticism of him than you do. I don't post bullshit about his birth or his religion, or stupidity about him being a Muslim, socialist, or terrorist-lover, nor do I challenge his patriotism.

I'm sure you don't see the difference .. but all that aside, YOU trying to decide anything to do with racism is hilarious and quite silly.
 
'Give me a boy till he is seven and I will give you the man' has become an extremely tired saying, but it is as true now as at any time.
When I was a boy it was not uncommon to read stories of niggers and piccaninnies and pigmies and fuzzy wuzzies. We had just fought a war agains the jerries who had Benito Mussilini and the rest of the wops on their side. The nips bombed the yanks at Pearl Harbour and wogs started at Calais.
Now we have grown up a bit , but the lessons of those early years are still alive (as is, by the way, the lesson that smoking is cool and probably good for one).
So anyone of a certain age is more likely than not to show definite signs of what we NOW call racism. Fortunately the human mind has a tremendous potential for accepting change and we now know that to judge people by their race is wrong, but those seven years are still there.
Right, that is the contention on which this relies.

People half my age were brought up without those trigger words and without those story books and many youngsters, if not all, are genuinely not racist.

Sometime round about the time of the birth of rock and roll we realised that entertainers of different races were entertaining. Caruso, Little Richard, Fats Domino, the Bolshoi Ballet, South American band leaders, etc. And then came what we might call the age of enlightenment.

This was a time when we decided that to give offence to people who were different was bad. We didn't talk about 'that black pianist', we talked about the fantastic Fats Domino. We didn't talk about Jerries or Krauts, or Wops, or Spics, of Chinks, or nips, we talked about Mr (Herr if we were to be strictly correct) Adeneur, General de Gaulle, etc. And we made a conscious effort to refer to people in non racial terms.

So what has happened to those who are still racist, not by default, but by design and intent. They, I guess, are simply people who have been bypassed by the decency of the rest of the human race, they are people who live in societies where perhaps there was a dearth of new blood. Static societies (I'm not saying in-bred - I'll leave that to you).
These people exist in all societies, but there appears to be evidence that what is widely referred to as the 'Bible Belt' of America has more than its fair share yet there is no international correlation between racism and American christianity.

So we may be a little hasty when we stick the term 'racist' to the more senior members of forums such as this. Like the dinosaurs they will die out and when there are no more racists then another societal problem will develop.
So have patience, my young friends. Chastise if you will, lose your tempers and throw rocks if you must, but only time will rid the planet of this horror.

They had us til we were seven. We are the men (and the women) they turned out. We know how wrong it is and we, most of us anyway, try not to cause offence by using racist terms.

However.... Stoopid is not a matter of race and, as John Cleese said not long ago, America has become the land of the stupid (or words to that effect). So you will not see me suddenly become nice to many Americans, but I truly hope I do not offend anyone because of their (or my) race.

I wish I could give you a thousand "thanks" for those remarks. As a southern boy I was "taught" to be racist as were ALL of my friends. Some of them still have some of that in them. Fortunately my genes produced the ability to self examine and reflect. Although I am sometimes intentionally controversial I feel great satisfaction that my early racism is dead and gone and gone forever. Thank you, thank you, thank you a thousand times!
 
Yes, I think this idea was popular among the Greek.

What I can remember from my 'formative' years, living in Birmingham, Alabama, is the snapshots. I can recall going to the matinee downtown at the Alabama Theater (which is still there), with my mom and little sister, we would take the bus. I remember seeing black people in the seats behind us, unlike most people who would cheerfully strike up a conversation, the black people wouldn't even make eye contact, it was as if they were ashamed or scared to talk, and I remember thinking how odd that was. Why were they so distant, why wouldn't they talk to me like most other older people? Of course, later I would learn of what they were going through at the time, and I understood, but as a small child, it made no sense to me. I can remember my dad borrowing a shotgun from my uncle, and sitting on the front porch all night one summer to guard the house. I thought that was odd, who was going to do us harm? We hadn't done anything wrong, just people living our lives. There was civil unrest, there had been riots, and my father (like many) thought the turmoil might erupt into a full-blown race war. Of course, at 5-years-old, I was too young to know what was going on. Just up the street from where we lived, about 4 blocks away, was what people referred to as "the colored quarters." I was very familiar with this area, we had to go through there to get to our home, there were other ways to go, but that was the quickest route. I only knew one person who lived there, a boy named Roland. My best friend lived halfway up the street, about 2 blocks from 'colored quarters' where Roland lived. My friend was Jewish, and his parents didn't have a prejudiced bone in their body, so Roland would often be over there playing with the rest of us, just like any other kid. I think it was my 7th birthday, I had invited Roland to my birthday party, but he didn't come. I couldn't understand why, and he later told me it was because his mom wouldn't let him. Again, this just seemed so odd to me at the time, it would take years before I understood. Why wouldn't a parent let their kid go to a free birthday party? It made no sense to my 7-yr-old mind. So that's my perspective of the first 7.. confused.



Growing up in Alabama, I certainly knew people who were my father's age, that were racist. Especially by today's standard. My grandmother called them 'nigrahs', she didn't mean anything by it, she was not racist, it's just what they were called in her day. But I saw parents of friends and others, who were full of hate and anger at the blacks, and I never understood it, had they been wronged? Did they have some reason to hate all black people? I couldn't comprehend it at all. My best friend in 6th grade was a black boy named Wendell. He came and spent the night with us once, and I went and spent the night with him. That's when I discovered how differently black people lived. I remember Wendell had taken his bath, and when he finished, he told me to 'go on and get yours while the water is still warm!' (meaning for me to use his old bath water, as their family routinely did) but his mother interrupted, "don't be ridiculous Wendell, he doesn't want to bathe in your filthy water, we'll run him a fresh tub." It didn't matter to me, I had shared bath water before with my sister, at my aunt's house, in fact, we had to bathe in a washtub, and the water was heated on a wood stove. When you've bathed in your sister's bathwater, you can bathe in anyone's bathwater, that was how I saw it... at least Wendell probably didn't pee in it!



The human mind also has the capacity to be deceptive regarding our darkest secrets. Many people are indeed prejudiced toward people unlike themselves, but they realize this is viewed by society as wrong, so they will hide this, never publicly show their true feelings, say the right things, put on airs, or even show 'support' for things, to mask what they really feel inside. I was brought up listening to Uncle Remus stories, which I truly LOVED! It's odd that we were actually being entertained by 'ebonics' before it was even a word. Those books are long gone now, banished from our lexicon because they were thought to be racist and insensitive, and perhaps they were, but to someone who wasn't the least bit racist, they were entertaining and funny stories, always with a profound moral point to make.



Or perhaps they never learned to mask their prejudices and say the 'right' things?



This is frankly just not true. Go to Boston, you'll find all kinds of racists there. They are on the police force in LA, they nearly beat Rodney King to death. We find evidence of racism everywhere in America, but the South often takes the brunt of blame. There is no correlation between racism and Christianity, or the South. This is a myth, and one that is often used by other racists to mask their own racist thoughts and sentiments. Hey look at them! I'm saying the right things, I am talking the talk! THEY are the racists, not me!



It's more than haste, when you accuse someone falsely of being racist. In fact, it has more in common with actual bigoted racism than you'd like to admit. People oppose Obama's policies, so they are branded "racists" because of that. Not because they've articulated racist thoughts or sentiments, but because they are different. Just as people of color were once called a particular name because they were different. Dr. King said we should judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, and this is important because character doesn't lie. You can't mask character by 'saying the right thing' or pointing to a geographical area as the source of all the problems. I would take Dr. King's point to another level as well, we shouldn't judge people on their politics, religion, heritage, or anything other than their character. It's bigoted, prejudiced and wrong to do so.



This won't ever happen. We may become so politically correct that we seldom witness actual racism, but that doesn't mean it's not there. We can burn the Uncle Remus books, we can ban the Confederate flag, we can teach our children the South is responsible for racism, and we can listen to black artists and say all the right things, but none of this addresses what is in our hearts. Where this shows up, is in the content of our character, as Dr. King so brilliantly hit on. There will still be people who have racial prejudice thousands of years from now, just because we find new ways to mask it and hide it from public view, doesn't mean it ceases to exist. As a civil society, we'd be much better off to admit that most everyone has some degree of prejudice, whether it is mild or raging, it is there.



Spoken like a true bigot! Yes, why should you be nice to "stoopid Americans" who you don't know? They are different than you! Where you have 'learned' to say the right things, to support the proper causes, others are too dumb to figure it out! Maybe in time, we can brainwash everyone into believing it doesn't matter how racist your heart is, as long as you don't show it in public? Maybe by repeating the myths about The South, we can hang the yoke of racism around their necks, absolving ourselves of any guilt for what we actually feel in our own hearts? After all, it's perfectly fine to discriminate and be prejudiced toward entire groups of people based on stereotypes and fear, as long as we don't publicly admit these sentiments regarding those black people. Isn't that right?

Spoken from the mouth of a demonstrated racist and a demonstrated true fucking idiot. Give it up, dicklicker. You are what I call an idiot with a capital "E".
 
Dude, I watched the stupid video .. and I get the bullshit it's trying to suggest. It's bullshit.

I don't support Obama .. AND, I post far more real criticism of him than you do. I don't post bullshit about his birth or his religion, or stupidity about him being a Muslim, socialist, or terrorist-lover, nor do I challenge his patriotism.

I'm sure you don't see the difference .. but all that aside, YOU trying to decide anything to do with racism is hilarious and quite silly.

Why is that? Because I have a different view than you? Because I have a "racist" nickname from your perspective? Because I am from Alabama? Because I sometimes have the confederate flag in my avatar? Who the hell gave you the right to judge me?

I didn't post the video to 'decide anything to do with racism' ...I posted it because I thought it was good political satire, and makes a very good commentary on the current political discourse. We are inundated on the right, with attacks from empty-headed fools on the left, who can't defend their ideology, and seek to use insult as a way to shame people to their side, and that is deplorable. I'm not racist, I've never been racist, and none of my family are racists. Our heritage has more in common with blacks and other minorities than probably anyone else in this country, and one could argue, even more so, because apparently we're shunned by blacks as well, because we come from Alabama and look like white people.

I've known racist people in my life, I have heard racist people speak. People who sincerely believe that black people are genetically inferior to Caucasians. To dilute and distort what should be our universal outrage at true racism, by simply tagging everyone we disagree with as a racist, is pathetic and abhorrent, in my opinion. It diminishes the perceptions of others toward the real culprits of racist bigotry, by removing our focus on it, and uses that to attack those who are different. Ironically, it's virtually the same principle once used by racists to 'keep society in line' with their way of thinking. You've got to stop looking at people through stereotypes, and casting judgement and prejudice based on that. We will NEVER achieve true racial harmony like that, because the underlying principle still breed the same abhorrent bigotry and hate for people who are different than you.
 
I wish I could give you a thousand "thanks" for those remarks. As a southern boy I was "taught" to be racist as were ALL of my friends. Some of them still have some of that in them. Fortunately my genes produced the ability to self examine and reflect. Although I am sometimes intentionally controversial I feel great satisfaction that my early racism is dead and gone and gone forever. Thank you, thank you, thank you a thousand times!

What your punk ass genes produced is the cleverness to hide behind a false pretense, to cover up what's in your heart. You figured out, you can say certain things and make gestures to certain people, and they will never know what you really think. You're a two-faced dishonest piece of shit, who marvels at their ability to pull the wool over people's eyes. It's called "white liberal guilt" and it's rampant these days. You're probably as racist at heart as anyone who has ever donned a sheet or burned a cross, but you've figured out how to fool black people into thinking you "care" about them, by enslaving them to social welfare programs, because deep down inside, you believe they are too inferior to make it without your benevolent assistance in life.
 
What your punk ass genes produced is the cleverness to hide behind a false pretense, to cover up what's in your heart. You figured out, you can say certain things and make gestures to certain people, and they will never know what you really think. You're a two-faced dishonest piece of shit, who marvels at their ability to pull the wool over people's eyes. It's called "white liberal guilt" and it's rampant these days. You're probably as racismt at heart as anyone who has ever donned a sheet or burned a cross, but you've figured out how to fool black people into thinking you "care" about them, by enslaving them to social welfare programs, because deep down inside, you believe they are too inferior to make it without your benevolent assistance in life.

You just spoke volumes about yourself.
 
Why is that? Because I have a different view than you? Because I have a "racist" nickname from your perspective? Because I am from Alabama? Because I sometimes have the confederate flag in my avatar? Who the hell gave you the right to judge me?

I didn't post the video to 'decide anything to do with racism' ...I posted it because I thought it was good political satire, and makes a very good commentary on the current political discourse. We are inundated on the right, with attacks from empty-headed fools on the left, who can't defend their ideology, and seek to use insult as a way to shame people to their side, and that is deplorable. I'm not racist, I've never been racist, and none of my family are racists. Our heritage has more in common with blacks and other minorities than probably anyone else in this country, and one could argue, even more so, because apparently we're shunned by blacks as well, because we come from Alabama and look like white people.

I've known racist people in my life, I have heard racist people speak. People who sincerely believe that black people are genetically inferior to Caucasians. To dilute and distort what should be our universal outrage at true racism, by simply tagging everyone we disagree with as a racist, is pathetic and abhorrent, in my opinion. It diminishes the perceptions of others toward the real culprits of racist bigotry, by removing our focus on it, and uses that to attack those who are different. Ironically, it's virtually the same principle once used by racists to 'keep society in line' with their way of thinking. You've got to stop looking at people through stereotypes, and casting judgement and prejudice based on that. We will NEVER achieve true racial harmony like that, because the underlying principle still breed the same abhorrent bigotry and hate for people who are different than you.

I don't know brother .. maybe you just don't get it.

First, I don't hate you. I've never said that ever. But I do recognize what you are even if you don't .. which I find hard to believe. If you've noticed, I disagree with a lot of people, many of the republican/conservative. But I don't call them racist. We could disagree on an issue specific to black people ..but I still don't call them racist. I call you a racist.

Let's be clear .. I don't care that you're a racist. That has no bearing on me. We can still engage in civil discussion just as I would have with anyone else. But the emperor has no clothes. You may think that no one can see you naked, but you're wrong. Inferences of Dr. King while claiming slave-holders were good people .. just misunderstood .. not sure who you think doesn't see the orgin of that?

Why do you think so many others here see you as a racist? Just picking on you?

Who gave me the right to judge you? The same person who gave you the right to judge anyone else.

We can talk about a whole range of issues, but when it comes to discussions of race, I'm going to call a racist a racist.

You can call me anything you want. Doesn't matter.
 
Why is that? Because I have a different view than you? Because I have a "racist" nickname from your perspective? Because I am from Alabama? Because I sometimes have the confederate flag in my avatar? Who the hell gave you the right to judge me?

I didn't post the video to 'decide anything to do with racism' ...I posted it because I thought it was good political satire, and makes a very good commentary on the current political discourse. We are inundated on the right, with attacks from empty-headed fools on the left, who can't defend their ideology, and seek to use insult as a way to shame people to their side, and that is deplorable. I'm not racist, I've never been racist, and none of my family are racists. Our heritage has more in common with blacks and other minorities than probably anyone else in this country, and one could argue, even more so, because apparently we're shunned by blacks as well, because we come from Alabama and look like white people.

I've known racist people in my life, I have heard racist people speak. People who sincerely believe that black people are genetically inferior to Caucasians. To dilute and distort what should be our universal outrage at true racism, by simply tagging everyone we disagree with as a racist, is pathetic and abhorrent, in my opinion. It diminishes the perceptions of others toward the real culprits of racist bigotry, by removing our focus on it, and uses that to attack those who are different. Ironically, it's virtually the same principle once used by racists to 'keep society in line' with their way of thinking. You've got to stop looking at people through stereotypes, and casting judgement and prejudice based on that. We will NEVER achieve true racial harmony like that, because the underlying principle still breed the same abhorrent bigotry and hate for people who are different than you.

The problem with lemmings on the right like Dicksee is that they only look at things in well, black and white. There's no gray. It's not presidential policies the right hates. Hell, the left disliked the presidential policies of Bush/ not the man himself; and that's the big difference.

Our dislike of Bush didn't breed countless insane conspiracy theories with but one goal, to delegitimize the man himself. Our dislike of Bush didn't give birth to a subset of loons dressed in tri-cornered hats and "Don't Tread on Me" t-shirts, our dislike Bush didn't lead to gridlock in Congress, our dislike of Bush didn't lead to an insane sheriff sending someone to another state to investigate his birth at taxpayer expense, our dislike of Bush didn't lead to pictures of watermelons on the White House lawn or other racially motivated silliness, and above all, our dislike of Bush didn't lead to the use of code words to hide our fear of a man. Just a man.

For years now, I, and pundits on both sides of the political spectrum, have scratched our heads trying to figure out the why's of such extreme hatred.

The only rational reason is racism.

A good read for those willing to take the blinders off: http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/warehoused/id122.html
 
The problem with lemmings on the right like Dicksee is that they only look at things in well, black and white. There's no gray. It's not presidential policies the right hates. Hell, the left disliked the presidential policies of Bush/ not the man himself; and that's the big difference.

Our dislike of Bush didn't breed countless insane conspiracy theories with but one goal, to delegitimize the man himself. Our dislike of Bush didn't give birth to a subset of loons dressed in tri-cornered hats and "Don't Tread on Me" t-shirts, our dislike Bush didn't lead to gridlock in Congress, our dislike of Bush didn't lead to an insane sheriff sending someone to another state to investigate his birth at taxpayer expense, our dislike of Bush didn't lead to pictures of watermelons on the White House lawn or other racially motivated silliness, and above all, our dislike of Bush didn't lead to the use of code words to hide our fear of a man. Just a man.

For years now, I, and pundits on both sides of the political spectrum, have scratched our heads trying to figure out the why's of such extreme hatred.

The only rational reason is racism.

A good read for those willing to take the blinders off: http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/warehoused/id122.html

this is truly the most hackish post i've ever seen. the left went after bush PERSONALLY like never before.

i can't even believe you made this post.
 
I don't know brother .. maybe you just don't get it.

First, I don't hate you. I've never said that ever. But I do recognize what you are even if you don't .. which I find hard to believe. If you've noticed, I disagree with a lot of people, many of the republican/conservative. But I don't call them racist. We could disagree on an issue specific to black people ..but I still don't call them racist. I call you a racist.

Let's be clear .. I don't care that you're a racist. That has no bearing on me. We can still engage in civil discussion just as I would have with anyone else. But the emperor has no clothes. You may think that no one can see you naked, but you're wrong. Inferences of Dr. King while claiming slave-holders were good people .. just misunderstood .. not sure who you think doesn't see the orgin of that?

Let me be clear with you, brother. I am NOT a racist. In fact, it would be rather unproductive for me to be a racist, because honestly, what "race" am I to be in favor of and what "race" am I opposed to? I have a pretty diverse mixture of blood in my veins, African, Asian, Indian, Creole, Spanish, German, and probably a bunch I don't even know about... my ancestors were real horn dogs. So even if I wanted to be a racist, I can't figure out who I am supposed to be racist against or which race I am supposed to favor.

I am CERTAINLY not racist toward black African-Americans, because if not for them, I wouldn't be here today. My grandmother raised 8 kids through the depression by picking cotton for a black man who was a sharecropper, the son of a former slave who received 40 acres and a mule. My family didn't get 40 acres OR a mule, they worked hard for everything they ever got. If not for that black sharecropper, my grandmother and her children would have starved to death, and I would not exist. How the living fuck can I have disdain in my heart for the people who are responsible for my existence? Can you explain that to me, because I don't understand how this is possible.

Why do you think so many others here see you as a racist? Just picking on you?

Because they are bigots who judge people based on stereotypes. I use the moniker "Dixie" and routinely fly the rebel flag in my avatar, and people see that and ASSUME things about me, without knowing a damn thing about me or my sentiments. I have NEVER said anything on ANY message board that was indicative of racism. You can't find anything, it doesn't exist. I routinely point out principles articulated by Dr. King, because he is one of my biggest heroes in life. My mother risked her life to march with Dr. King, and if I had been old enough at the time, I would have been right beside her, because it was important. Does any of this sound "racist" to you, BAC? Would a racist person admit these things on a public forum?

Who gave me the right to judge you? The same person who gave you the right to judge anyone else.

I judge people by the content of their character.

...while claiming slave-holders were good people .. just misunderstood .. not sure who you think doesn't see the orgin of that?

I never said that slaveholders were "good" people who were misunderstood! Where in the living fuck did you get that? All I said was, the people who owned slaves were within the law, according to the US Supreme Court and Congress. I can't help that, it's a FACT! I don't like that it's a FACT, and I don't agree that it should have been a FACT, but it IS A FACT! Just as it's a FACT that following the CW, there was another 100 years of prejudiced discrimination against black people... oh wow, there I go spewing my racism again, huh? What you have chosen to do, is cling to the white man's rationale for a century of discrimination, by trying to hang the onus of racism on The South who lost the war. This totally false meme is what prompted us to go through another century of discrimination, as white men justified segregation. Do you not understand that? Of course you believe it, you think LBJ was some caring and compassionate white man who helped pass Civil Rights because he was not a racist at heart... LBJ was a "good ole boy" from Texas who DUPED you! He passed his Great Society bullshit as a means to keep you down, to keep black people in their place, in poverty, and dependent on his party for entitlements. He fucked you over and you never even realized it... you still don't!

I asked you before and you never answered... How long do white liberal Democrats need to assist black people before they are "equal" to whites? Because that's exactly what this all is, it's liberal white guilt... let's dole out some more entitlements for the poor ignorant black people who can't help they were born with black skin, and are too stupid and dumb to make it without our help. I believe some of the smartest men of the 20th century were black men. In spite of the stigma and discrimination, they rose to greatness with their inventions and ideas. Not because some hick from Texas patronized them and treated them like helpless ignorant inferiors. If you want to continue believing the myths and stereotypes, that's entirely up to you, but I have studied history and I know the facts. I have not lied about them here, there is no reason for me to.
 
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