Supercandy afraid of reality puts those who speak truth on Ignore...zygote not child!

[Mott the Hoople]

yes seriously....I take it you didn't have to study embryology to get your degree in agar production?....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo

do you recall from your studies what causes a heart to beat?......

Maybe you should. Obviously you don't understand what you are reading. The development of a nueral tube is not the same as a functioning brain, which you would understand if you had one.

 

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Now they're not. They are both about killing human life.

yet, the very reasons are wholly different. that is like saying sex and rape are the same because both are about sex.

 

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Unless they're believed. Notice that you're the only 'tard challenging it. So it's on you, moron.

this proves beyond a doubt you are retarded. it doesn't matter if it one person, the person making the claim has to back it up. since you're being stupid about it...i also challenge it. there, that is two.

go tell darla to back up her 800,000 claim. we know you won't, because you never back up any of your claims.

 

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When one disagrees, they post proof as to why. Something you're unfamiliar with, apparently. Some other 'tard at Special Ed taught you that mumbling and dots make you sound smarter.

Don't worry, moron. No one expects you to refute Darla's claim. If you could've, you already would have.

saved

 

[Mott the Hoople]

at five weeks does the embryos brain produce brain waves?.....hint: the embryos heart is beating......

Give it up dude. You don't know what you're talking about. An embryo doesn't have a fully developed heart at 5 weeks. Cardiogenisis begins roughly at the same time as nuerogenesis with a paired heart tubes of myocardial tissue that do indeed start beating but is hardly a complete heart. Hell septation of the heart doesn't even begin till week 5 and the complete development into a four chambered heart goes on well into the fetal development period. Now this may come as a surprise to you but action potentials initiating myocardial contraction can and does occurr in fetal development completely independant of the brain cause at this point in fetal development THERE IS NO BRAIN!

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Remember the drinking and driving ADS years ago on TV? The billboards? The signs and posters just about everywhere?

Where is the campaign for birth control? Why aren't condoms as prevalent as chocolate bars and chewing gum at check-outs?

I don't think we'll ever get a handle on abortion until society matures sexually.

Oh I agree there is a long way to go.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

No, you cannot.

Sure I can. It's not consistant to rationalize opposition to one form of ending a life and supporting another. Ending life is ending life.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

yet, the very reasons are wholly different. that is like saying sex and rape are the same because both are about sex.

I fail to see what that has to do with anything. As I said, there are times where it is morally permisable to end a human life. Actually the reasons are not so different. We kill in war, often, the protect our selves from those who would kill us. In abortion is is often performed to protect the life of the mother. Same thing dude.

 

[j-mac]

I fail to see what that has to do with anything. As I said, there are times where it is morally permisable to end a human life. Actually the reasons are not so different. We kill in war, often, the protect our selves from those who would kill us. In abortion is is often performed to protect the life of the mother. Same thing dude.

Mott, you sound like you have a scientific handle on what is at the academic argument, but something here that you said is I think just a little disingenuous to insert with what you have to say so far...We hear all the time of those in support of abortion on demand that it is to "save the life of the mother", or "instances of rape, or incest", yet of the abortions preformed last year, how many of those actually were for those instances? Do you know?

According to the CDC:

"WHY ARE ABORTIONS PERFORMED?
On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).

Only 12% of women included a physical problem with their health among reasons for having an abortion (NAF).

One per cent (of aborting women) reported that they were the survivors of rape (NAF)."

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6015a1.htm?s_cid=ss6015a1_w

So, 13% of abortions performed in 2008 were because of the usual defenses of abortion on demand from those constantly screaming the 'my body' meme....Of the 1.36 million abortions in America in 2008 that works out to, 176,800 abortions necessarily performed leaving approximately 1.2 million abortions performed due to convenience factors, or as birth control. This to me is unacceptable. And should be to minorities as well since black women are the most likely to obtain abortion services...Which was Margaret Sanger's plan in the first place...

"[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a
deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to
the race."
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent
Multiplication of this bad stock."
-- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review .

And this gem....

"[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden
of unwanted children ... [Women must have the right] to live ... to love
... to be lazy ... to be an unmarried mother ... to create ... to destroy
... The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order
... The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members
is to kill it."
-- Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel , Volume I, Number 1.
Reprinted in Woman and the New Race . New York: Brentanos Publishers,
1922.


What a wonderful woman that must have been eh? Disgusting.

 

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Mott, you sound like you have a scientific handle on what is at the academic argument, but something here that you said is I think just a little disingenuous to insert with what you have to say so far...We hear all the time of those in support of abortion on demand that it is to "save the life of the mother", or "instances of rape, or incest", yet of the abortions preformed last year, how many of those actually were for those instances? Do you know?

According to the CDC:

"WHY ARE ABORTIONS PERFORMED?
On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).

Only 12% of women included a physical problem with their health among reasons for having an abortion (NAF).

One per cent (of aborting women) reported that they were the survivors of rape (NAF)."

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6015a1.htm?s_cid=ss6015a1_w

So, 13% of abortions performed in 2008 were because of the usual defenses of abortion on demand from those constantly screaming the 'my body' meme....Of the 1.36 million abortions in America in 2008 that works out to, 176,800 abortions necessarily performed leaving approximately 1.2 million abortions performed due to convenience factors, or as birth control. This to me is unacceptable. And should be to minorities as well since black women are the most likely to obtain abortion services...Which was Margaret Sanger's plan in the first place...

"[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a
deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to
the race."
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent
Multiplication of this bad stock."
-- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review .

And this gem....

"[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden
of unwanted children ... [Women must have the right] to live ... to love
... to be lazy ... to be an unmarried mother ... to create ... to destroy
... The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order
... The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members
is to kill it."
-- Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel , Volume I, Number 1.
Reprinted in Woman and the New Race . New York: Brentanos Publishers,
1922.


What a wonderful woman that must have been eh? Disgusting.

Why do you want to force the birth of innocent children to mothers who don't want them? What kind of life do you want to force on these innocent children, j-mac?

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Mott, you sound like you have a scientific handle on what is at the academic argument, but something here that you said is I think just a little disingenuous to insert with what you have to say so far...We hear all the time of those in support of abortion on demand that it is to "save the life of the mother", or "instances of rape, or incest", yet of the abortions preformed last year, how many of those actually were for those instances? Do you know?

According to the CDC:

"WHY ARE ABORTIONS PERFORMED?
On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).

Only 12% of women included a physical problem with their health among reasons for having an abortion (NAF).

One per cent (of aborting women) reported that they were the survivors of rape (NAF)."

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6015a1.htm?s_cid=ss6015a1_w

So, 13% of abortions performed in 2008 were because of the usual defenses of abortion on demand from those constantly screaming the 'my body' meme....Of the 1.36 million abortions in America in 2008 that works out to, 176,800 abortions necessarily performed leaving approximately 1.2 million abortions performed due to convenience factors, or as birth control. This to me is unacceptable. And should be to minorities as well since black women are the most likely to obtain abortion services...Which was Margaret Sanger's plan in the first place...

"[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a
deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to
the race."
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent
Multiplication of this bad stock."
-- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review .

And this gem....

"[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden
of unwanted children ... [Women must have the right] to live ... to love
... to be lazy ... to be an unmarried mother ... to create ... to destroy
... The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order
... The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members
is to kill it."
-- Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel , Volume I, Number 1.
Reprinted in Woman and the New Race . New York: Brentanos Publishers,
1922.


What a wonderful woman that must have been eh? Disgusting.

Who said I support abortion on demand?

 

[j-mac]

Who said I support abortion on demand?

That's Obama's position....As well as the liberal position....Are you saying that you are pro life?

 

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So, 13% of abortions performed in 2008 were because of the usual defenses of abortion on demand from those constantly screaming the 'my body' meme....

Cite, please. Post proof that it was because of the 'my body' meme.

And should be to minorities as well since black women are the most likely to obtain abortion services...

Cite, please.

 

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Sure I can. It's not consistant to rationalize opposition to one form of ending a life and supporting another. Ending life is ending life.

No, it is not. Ending Jeffrey Dahmers life is not the same as ending a five year olds life. One is innocent, the other is most assuredly not.

 

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No, it is not. Ending Jeffrey Dahmers life is not the same as ending a five year olds life. One is innocent, the other is most assuredly not.

How about incinerated embryos at the fertility clinic? Are those 'deaths' acceptable?

 

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I fail to see what that has to do with anything. As I said, there are times where it is morally permisable to end a human life. Actually the reasons are not so different. We kill in war, often, the protect our selves from those who would kill us. In abortion is is often performed to protect the life of the mother. Same thing dude.

What percent of abortions do you think are a result of the mothers life being in danger?

 

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Why do you want to force the birth of innocent children to mothers who don't want them? What kind of life do you want to force on these innocent children, j-mac?

Um, any chance at LIFE is better than the certain death via butchering that you would give them. What could they possibly experience in life that would be as bad as being ripped apart during an abortion?

 

[j-mac]

What percent of abortions do you think are a result of the mothers life being in danger?

I gave the link above, from the CDC about 12% is the answer...That still leaves about 1.2 million children killed each year for pure convenience measures.

I just don't know how anyone can justify that.

 

[j-mac]

Um, any chance at LIFE is better than the certain death via butchering that you would give them. What could they possibly experience in life that would be as bad as being ripped apart during an abortion?

Not to mention that there is an adoption shortage in this country of babies ready to adopt.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

False it never had an exception for the health of the mother, that was why he vetoed it.

since I've already linked the text of it, showing it did, do you feel any embarrassment at the moment?......