Limit who can vote!

[CanceledB]

So a troll...Ok...And a JPP staff member as well...Hmmmm....That tells me something.

Don't knock trolling. For some, it's as creative as they'll ever get.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

So a troll...Ok...And a JPP staff member as well...Hmmmm....That tells me something.

If you'd been around long enough you'd know all my statements were in jest. Well, mostly. Being a prole is a state of mind and it's entirely voluntary. It has nothing to do with social class or income. Being purposely ignorant however, is the scourge of democracy.

 

[j-mac]

Don't knock trolling. For some, it's as creative as they'll ever get.

True...Sad, but true.

 

[CanceledB]

True...Sad, but true.

Sometimes, it's just funny. Don't lose perspective - remember where you are.

 

[j-mac]

If you'd been around long enough you'd know all my statements were in jest.

My join date is clearly posted.

Well, mostly.

Does that mean that your do, or do not have a superiority complex?

Being a prole is a state of mind and it's entirely voluntary.

So you have morphed it? BTW, being a douche is a state of mind as well, but not too many people like of tolerate a douche for long

It has nothing to do with social class or income.

"1. prole
From "proletarian" meaning wage-earner or worker. The shortened version being a derogatory term used by the middle and upper classes to deride the working class majority."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prole

"Noun 1. prole - a member of the working class (not necessarily employed); "workers of the world--unite!"
proletarian, worker
labor, labour, proletariat, working class - a social class comprising those who do manual labor or work for wages; "there is a shortage of skilled labor in this field"
common man, common person, commoner - a person who holds no title
dogsbody - a worker who has to do all the unpleasant or boring jobs that no one else wants to do"

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prole

A cursory search seems to disagree with you on that.

Being purposely ignorant however, is the scourge of democracy.

So, do you often think that people that disagree with your "wit" are ignorant?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Not nearly to the extent as some on the right.

shit......you post some of the dumbest stuff we've ever seen....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

That's like the dude I overheard the other day saying he was voting for Obama because he "halved" the deficit.

what can I say.....my mother voted for Carter because he taught Sunday School......

 

[j-mac]

I would never try and limit the vote to people like this....

or this...

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Do you believe that a 2nd Obama term would be bad for the country?

wholeheartedly, but that doesn't change my principles.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

wholeheartedly, but that doesn't change my principles.

What would your principles tell you to do if you were turned away from the polls for lack of a state-issued photo ID?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What would your principles tell you to do if you were turned away from the polls for lack of a state-issued photo ID?

that would depend upon the general consensus of whether an ID is required to exercise a fundamental right.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

that would depend upon the general consensus of whether an ID is required to exercise a fundamental right.

The "general consensus" in some states (courtesy of GOP-dominated legislatures) is that those who have no state-issued ID will not be allowed to vote.

 

[j-mac]

The "general consensus" in some states (courtesy of GOP-dominated legislatures) is that those who have no state-issued ID will not be allowed to vote.

Absolutely not true...most if not all would take a provisional ballot until the voting status was verified.

 

[j-mac]

wholeheartedly, but that doesn't change my principles.

Principles are fine, and admirable. However, until more candidates can be elected to offices all the way up the chain to build the viability of a libertarian like Johnson, then you are in effect helping the Obama campaign more than the country. Believe me I know how you feel, I voted Perot. It got us Clinton.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Principles are fine, and admirable. However, until more candidates can be elected to offices all the way up the chain to build the viability of a libertarian like Johnson, then you are in effect helping the Obama campaign more than the country. Believe me I know how you feel, I voted Perot. It got us Clinton.

and all that attitude does is further cement the establishments power. congrats.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Absolutely not true...most if not all would take a provisional ballot until the voting status was verified.

Whether a provisional ballot is counted is contingent upon the verification of that voter's eligibility.

Many voters do not realize that the provisional ballot is not counted until 7–10 days after an election so their vote does not affect the calling of the states for different candidates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot

Meantime, ponder this:

Statuses as of March 2012 of the 50 states regarding the required showing of ID at the polling place are as follows:

[SUP]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws#cite_note-19[/SUP] Strict photo ID (voter must show photo ID at polling place): Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Tennessee.

In addition, South Carolina and Texas have strict photo ID laws that must receive, but have not received, approval from the federal Justice Department; pending such approval, they require non-photo ID.


Photo ID or alternative (voters at polling place must either show photo ID or meet another state-specific requirement, such as answering personal questions correctly or being vouched for by another voter who has voter ID): Alabama, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan and South Dakota.


Non-photo ID (state-specific list of acceptable forms of polling place ID, including a non-photo form): Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia, Washington.


No ID required at polling place: all other (20) states.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws#State-by-state_requirements_as_of_March_2012

 

[SmarterthanYou]

The "general consensus" in some states (courtesy of GOP-dominated legislatures) is that those who have no state-issued ID will not be allowed to vote.

so is it the general consensus that an ID is required to exercise a fundamental right or is it not?

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

so is it the general consensus that an ID is required to exercise a fundamental right or is it not?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws#State-by-state_requirements_as_of_March_2012

 

[SmarterthanYou]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws#State-by-state_requirements_as_of_March_2012

this doesn't say anything that I haven't already been trying to tell most of the board anyway, that the 'state' can make any law it wants to even if it infringes on your rights. That doesn't make it constitutional.

so, can you answer my question or no?

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

this doesn't say anything that I haven't already been trying to tell most of the board anyway, that the 'state' can make any law it wants to even if it infringes on your rights. That doesn't make it constitutional. so, can you answer my question or no?

Guess not.