Demo's attacking the military right to vote....AGAIN!

ZappasGuitar said:
In other words, do they deserve "special rights"?

No.

they knew the risks when they joined...now they want special rights that ordinary Americas aren't afforded.
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Ok, so you are in favor of Obama's law suit to restrict the military from having extra time to vote...Thanks for proving my point.
 
j-mac said:
Ok, so you are in favor of Obama's law suit to restrict the military from having extra time to vote...Thanks for proving my point.
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Thanks for admitting that all that past Conservative hand wringing about how wrong it is that certain Americans get special rights, was just a bullshit diversion.

You believe certain Americans deserve special rights that other Americas don't get.

You believe it's alright as long as those getting the special rights aren't homosexual, don't you?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Thanks for admitting that all that past Conservative hand wringing about how wrong it is that certain Americans get special rights, was just a bullshit diversion.

You believe certain Americans deserve special rights that other Americas don't get.

You believe it's alright as long as those getting the special rights aren't homosexual, don't you?
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So, the fact that the military has always been given consideration because of deployment, and duty station is of no consequence to you. See, I believe I know why, and it is when you tipped your hand stating that the majority of the military votes republican...So you do want to disenfranchise them....Way to go, you are revealed.
 
j-mac said:
So, the fact that the military has always been given consideration because of deployment, and duty station is of no consequence to you. See, I believe I know why, and it is when you tipped your hand stating that the majority of the military votes republican...So you do want to disenfranchise them....Way to go, you are revealed.
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The military has always been given and IS STILL BEING GIVEN consideration because of deployment.

You've said over and over that time must be given to assure no one votes twice.

Apparently you aren't equally as concerned that checks remain in place to make sure no one in the military be allowed to vote twice.

You don't care about the rank and file civilian voter...you are revealed.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
The military has always been given and IS STILL BEING GIVEN consideration because of deployment.

You've said over and over that time must be given to assure no one votes twice.

Apparently you aren't equally as concerned that checks remain in place to make sure no one in the military be allowed to vote twice.

You don't care about the rank and file civilian voter...you are revealed.
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So you think that the military is double voting? Got any evidence? The civilian voter can vote, the hurdles for them are not anywhere near the hurdles that military voters experience....This is why it has always been bi partisan agreement to afford the military more time than civilians....

Face it Zap, we are not going to agree here, so I will only thank you for agreeing that this move in Ohio, is to limit the military.
 
j-mac said:
So you think that the military is double voting? Got any evidence? The civilian voter can vote, the hurdles for them are not anywhere near the hurdles that military voters experience....This is why it has always been bi partisan agreement to afford the military more time than civilians....

Face it Zap, we are not going to agree here, so I will only thank you for agreeing that this move in Ohio, is to limit the military.
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We certainly won't agree as long as you continue to lie about the facts of the suit...
 
j-mac said:
Meaning that Obama is limiting the military voting time.
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Wow. Three Pinocchio's!

Romney’s statement suggests that the president is undermining the voting rights of Ohio service members. But the lawsuit in question would not change the deadline one way or another for military voters. It simply requests an order for the state to extend its civilian deadline.

The lawsuit doesn’t describe the military privilege as unconstitutional or arbitrary, which is what Romney and Biber suggested. Instead it uses that argument against the separate deadline for civilian voters, in what the Obama campaigns appears to believe is an attempt to supress African-American turnout.

Overall, the facts show obvious contradictions to the statements from Romney and Biber, no matter how carefully they were worded. The Romney campaign earns three Pinocchios.
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Same with FactCheck:

Mitt Romney wrongly suggests the Obama campaign is trying to “undermine” the voting rights of military members through a lawsuit filed in Ohio. The suit seeks to block state legislation that limited early voting times for nonmilitary members; it doesn’t seek to impose restrictions on service members.

In an Aug. 4 Facebook posting, Romney called the lawsuit an “outrage,” and said that “if I’m entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, I’ll work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them.” He painted the court filing as an attack on the ability of service men and women to vote: “The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote.”

Conservative blogs and opinion pieces have also misrepresented the case, claiming in headlines that President Obama was suing to “restrict military voting.” A fundraising email appeal from a group called Special Operations Speaks — which wants to “remove Barack Obama from the White House” — wrongly says that Obama “deploys army of lawyers to suppress military’s voting rights,” claiming that “Obama needs the American military to not vote, so he has set out to make it as difficult as possible for them to do so.” But that’s not what the Obama lawsuit aims to do at all.
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So it's merely disenfranchising 93,000 Ohio voters who would vote early. Isn't that unconstitutional?

Then PolitiFact Ohio weighs in...

It is simply dishonest for Romney and his backers to claim that Obama’s effort to extend early voting privileges to everyone in Ohio constitutes an attack on military voters’ ability to cast ballots on the weekend before elections.

We rate the claim False.
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But who's fault is it really?????

Republicans who control Ohio’s state government passed a law last year that would have reduced the time frame for early voting from five weeks to three, eliminated most weekend voting hours and dropped a requirement that poll workers redirect voters to the correct precinct if they show up at the wrong one in a location that hosts multiple precincts. Ohio legislators repealed that law when it became clear it would face a referendum this year, though its ban on early voting on the weekend before elections remained in place because it was part of a separate law. Democrats including U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown say Republicans wanted to eliminate that weekend’s early voting to cut turnout among African-Americans who vote after church, a demographic likely to vote for Obama. Brown said that in 2008, up to 19 percent of Ohio voters cast their ballots during the weekend before the election.
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Ouch.
 
Howey said:
They're both citizens who deserve the right to vote?

Why did the Republican legislature take away those three days of voting from the citizens?
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*Sigh* It's already been discussed, go back and read before you post next time.
 
j-mac said:
*Sigh* It's already been discussed, go back and read before you post next time.
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And I posted three links that debunked it. Which you ignored. Now answer my question. Why did the republicans do it?

Hint: I already answered for you.
 
Howey said:
Same with FactCheck:



So it's merely disenfranchising 93,000 Ohio voters who would vote early. Isn't that unconstitutional?

Then PolitiFact Ohio weighs in...



But who's fault is it really?????



Ouch.
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I explained to the guy over and over that early voting for the Military wouldn't be changed at all, Obama just wants ALL OHIOANS to have the same right.



Somehow that particular fact just won't sink in with him. He STILL claims Obama is trying to limit absentee voting by the military.
 
Howey said:
They're both citizens who deserve the right to vote?

Why did the Republican legislature take away those three days of voting from the citizens?
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Those citizens include vets, firefighters, law enforcement etc. Does he think the active military are more equal and deserve special rights?
 
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