OBAMA’S COLLEGE CLASSMATE: ‘THE OBAMA SCANDAL IS AT COLUMBIA’

Aoxomoxoa said:
If those companies had gone bankrupt and you have no way of knowing that, then I am sure they would have been able to give their redundant employees a decent payoff. Having crippling debts added to their books ensured that the only winners were Bain and Romney. Romney learnt all his tricks from that crook Michael Milken who invested $300 million in Bain.
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Tell me Tommy boy... do you actually read the links you provide?

1) Bain got financing via Drexel. Milken did not invest in Bain. Drexel/Milken invested (via their bondholders) in the debt structure of Stage Stores.

2) The deal was done in 1988. Bain sold its position in 1996 and 1997 at $35 or less. The stock continued rising into 1998 to $53. (still successful even after Bain was gone) The success enticed Bain to reinvest in 1998 at $53. Then the company began to struggle.

“Stage Stores was a growing, successful, and consistently profitable company during the nine years we owned it,” Bain said in a statement. “Unfortunately, the company ran into operating problems three years after we sold our controlling interest, and we were as disappointed as anyone to see that happen.”
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Imagine that, a company in the late 90's expansion in the US started to struggle in 99 and 2000 as the market began to implode. Wow.

Tell us Tommy, if Bain had pumped and dumped the stock as alleged...

Why would they sell at $35 and under and then rebuy at $53???

yeah, thanks for once again proving you are relying on talking points all the while ignoring the facts... the facts like the larger of the two chains was struggling when Bain took them over (which is common of PE investments)
 
ZappasGuitar said:
I have not once called for Romney to release his tax records.

YOU on the other hand have YET to call for Romney's tax records to be released...and since you've already started one thread which calls for Obama to release his records, that PROVES you are indeed a hypocritical partisan hack.

And I just realized...it also makes you a liar...ROTFLMAO!
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actually liar...i have said more than once that romney should release his tax records.

poor zappa....can't get through a single day without lying.
 
Have you seen Obama's

Occidental College records — Not released
Financial Aid Records — Not released
Passport — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None
Illinois Bar Records — Not released
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
He certainly did a good job for himself and his buddies at Bain, Michael 'Junk Bond' Milken taught him well.
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are you really claiming that no one else, except romney and his buddies at bain, benefited? you should try reading up on how many jobs were created etc.....
 
if you really want a more accurate measure of how he will govern, after all, running a business is not exactly the same as governing.....use his time as governor to see how he turned that state around.
 
Superfreak said:
Apparently you once again don't know what you are talking about. The Bush era program was shut down long before Obama came to office. Obama's admin started up a similar program, the big differences being that the Obama admin didn't feel the need to include the Mexican officials and the Obama admin got a US Agent killed.
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Bush's program failed because the corrupt Mexican govt. didn't hold up their end of the deal.

The ATF decided to start anew, without letting the Mexican govt. get in the way this time.

The fact that a border agent was shot, has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, or F and F. Do you honestly believe that Mexican druglords don't have access to guns?
 
Superfreak said:
Tell me Tommy boy... do you actually read the links you provide?

1) Bain got financing via Drexel. Milken did not invest in Bain. Drexel/Milken invested (via their bondholders) in the debt structure of Stage Stores.

2) The deal was done in 1988. Bain sold its position in 1996 and 1997 at $35 or less. The stock continued rising into 1998 to $53. (still successful even after Bain was gone) The success enticed Bain to reinvest in 1998 at $53. Then the company began to struggle.



Imagine that, a company in the late 90's expansion in the US started to struggle in 99 and 2000 as the market began to implode. Wow.

Tell us Tommy, if Bain had pumped and dumped the stock as alleged...

Why would they sell at $35 and under and then rebuy at $53???

yeah, thanks for once again proving you are relying on talking points all the while ignoring the facts... the facts like the larger of the two chains was struggling when Bain took them over (which is common of PE investments)
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Did I ever tell you about my connection to Drexel Burnham Lambert?
 
Yurt said:
actually liar...i have said more than once that romney should release his tax records.

poor zappa....can't get through a single day without lying.
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And that's why you posted the link...so you could prove you aren't just another liar.

poor lying Yurt...it just comes naturally to him.
 
Superfreak said:
McCain only produced two years. Romney has produced 2010 and plans to release 2011 when done. I don't recall the left getting so bent when McCain only released two.
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Did McCain have offshore tax havens?

What we'd like to see, is whether or not Romney took advantage of the 2009 tax amnesty.
 
Althea said:
Bush's program failed because the corrupt Mexican govt. didn't hold up their end of the deal.

The ATF decided to start anew, without letting the Mexican govt. get in the way this time.

The fact that a border agent was shot, has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, or F and F. Do you honestly believe that Mexican druglords don't have access to guns?
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Then why the executive privilege? Smoke is in the air.
 
Althea said:
Bush's program failed because the corrupt Mexican govt. didn't hold up their end of the deal.
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1) Link
2) So you admit the Bush program was done before Obama took office? Good, you are learning.

The ATF decided to start anew, without letting the Mexican govt. get in the way this time.
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So you think they can violate Mexican territory whenever they want to?

The fact that a border agent was shot, has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, or F and F. Do you honestly believe that Mexican druglords don't have access to guns?
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The guns recovered at the scene were from fast and furious, that is a fact. Holder (at least) seems to have known about the smuggling operation. Of course they have guns... we smuggled the guns to them thanks to the Obama admin.
 
Althea said:
Did McCain have offshore tax havens?

What we'd like to see, is whether or not Romney took advantage of the 2009 tax amnesty.
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And it kills you that Romney's answer is for you to pound sand doesn't it? But in any case thanks for at least coming out and just saying that you only want something to smear with.
 
Althea said:
Did McCain have offshore tax havens?

What we'd like to see, is whether or not Romney took advantage of the 2009 tax amnesty.
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LOL... that is not what the Dems want. They want to see each and every one of Romney's investments so that they can lie and distort each one as they have others from Bain.
 
j-mac said:
And it kills you that Romney's answer is for you to pound sand doesn't it? But in any case thanks for at least coming out and just saying that you only want something to smear with.
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And good for you for demonstrating over and over that ethical conduct by your candidate is unimportant to you.
 
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