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Ooh, you're so dramatic! Tell me, at what point did the right to bear arms become a right - before or after it was written into the Constitution?

before. like i showed you and you admitted - the right was preexisting. you even admitted this, yet, claim in some weird convoluted logic, that the right, though preexisting, didn't actually exist until the second amendment --> which only served to PROTECT that right.
 
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At what point did blacks become whole human beings rather than just 3/5 human - before or after it was written down?
 
Ooh, you're so dramatic! Tell me, at what point did the right to bear arms become a right - before or after it was written into the Constitution?
I loathe idiots with reading comprehension issues that try to pretend they are intelligent.

the right to bear arms predates the constitution. the 2nd Amendment tells government that it shall not be infringed. to more directly answer your question, the right to bear arms came in to existence the second man found out how to make and use weapons.
 
before. like i showed you and you admitted - the right was preexisting. you even admitted this, yet, claim in some weird convoluted logic, that the right, though preexisting, didn't actually exist until the second amendment --> which only served to PROTECT that right.

Retard - it doesn't matter. That's the point, gomer. Until it's written down as law - by men - 'inalienable' doesn't grant you jack shit. The right is nonexistent until it's 'protected' by a law enacted to provide for that.
 
I loathe idiots with reading comprehension issues that try to pretend they are intelligent.

the right to bear arms predates the constitution. the 2nd Amendment tells government that it shall not be infringed. to more directly answer your question, the right to bear arms came in to existence the second man found out how to make and use weapons.

In other words, gun lust is a man-made thing. Not an 'inalienable' right.

How about blacks? When did they become whole human beings - before or after it was written down?

If they were whole all along (obviously), did their 'rights' just kick in - or did laws have to be changed first?
 
Retard - it doesn't matter. That's the point, gomer. Until it's written down as law - by men - 'inalienable' doesn't grant you jack shit. The right is nonexistent until it's 'protected' by a law enacted to provide for that.

let's try this again:

you are born on a remote island, just you and your mother (not man as you whining about) --> who gives you the right to breathe?

let us take your logic even further:

your claim is that all people who have lived on our planet, never had rights...................until..............a government gave them their rights. so how did they live? how did they breathe? how did they eat?

answer the questions bijou.
 
How about blacks? When did they become whole human beings - before or after it was written down?

If they were whole all along (obviously), did their 'rights' just kick in - or did laws have to be changed first?

this is the fatal flaw in your argument. you even say it, yet, you can't grasp it.

1. you ask when.

2. as you said......................"all along"

checkmate.
 
let's try this again:

you are born on a remote island, just you and your mother (not man as you whining about) --> who gives you the right to breathe?

let us take your logic even further:

your claim is that all people who have lived on our planet, never had rights...................until..............a government gave them their rights. so how did they live? how did they breathe? how did they eat?

answer the questions bijou.

You're an imbecile, and you're dismissed. 'F'.
 
this is the fatal flaw in your argument. you even say it, yet, you can't grasp it.

1. you ask when.

2. as you said......................"all along"

checkmate.

Explain to the class how blacks weren't whole human beings 'all along', Yurt.

Did they enjoy the same rights as whole human beings, Yurt?

:rofl2:
 
Retard - it doesn't matter. That's the point, gomer. Until it's written down as law - by men - 'inalienable' doesn't grant you jack shit. The right is nonexistent until it's 'protected' by a law enacted to provide for that.
wrong. it can be protected by force of arms, no law necessary.
 
Explain to the class how blacks weren't whole human beings 'all along', Yurt.

Did they enjoy the same rights as whole human beings, Yurt?

:rofl2:

i will use YOUR words:

If they were whole all along (obviously)

ooooops. you just admitted they were always whole. thus, their rights were always there. it only took the government to LATER -- here is the key point, pay attention -- to PROTECT that PREEXISTING right.

stated another way.....if you have a right to eat an ice cream cone, but your older sibling keeps taking away your ice cream cone....and i step in (as the parent or whatever) and tell him or her....hey, you cannot infringe on her eating an ice cream cone.

your logic is -- you were never allowed to eat an ice cream cone until the parents stepped in. do you really believe that is how rights are created?
 
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