Raise The Minimum Wage!

I came into this very conversation on page 1 on 7-5, then I was out for two days, and when I came back I posted this to the conversation...



Now I don't see any thing offensive in that....Do you? But yet here was Rune's reply in the very next post...



Now think about that seriously....I think I had less than 10 total posts...If you just met someone and they came at you like that what would be your reaction?

From that point he just kept being a dickhead, and I lashed out at christie when I shouldn't have, and apologized for it. Since that point you jack asses have been doing nothing but flaming, and getting your asses handed to you by the cons on the board...

So you don't have to be honest with me, but don't for one second think that you can get away with changing what is so easily looked up...

I'm not changing anything, j-mac.

Look - let's you and I push the re-set button. Despite allowing your buttons to get pushed here, you appear perfectly capable of civil discourse and respect. But as a conservative, you can fully expect to meet with friction from the liberals here. Try to take the friction - and some of the heat - in stride. If you butt heads with someone particularly unpleasant, to the point that they're inhibiting you from enjoying the place, use your 'ignore' button.

Seriously, this is the best forum I have participated on yet. There is no heavy-handed moderation, which means one of the trade-offs is unbridled exchanges that can get pretty hostile at times. Perspective is everything. Now, let's rumble! :)
 
I understand that you are confused, I was just trying to thankyou for proving that mostly adults earn minimum wage.
Sorry I didn't make it simple enough for you to understand the first time.


The only confusion, is what you're laboring under. :)

You have no choice but to make thinks simple; because you would fuck up a hot pocket. :D
 
Get's you wet, HUH! :D

Another claim that women enjoy rape.thats two nights in a row with that gem. Quick, everyone pretend you didn't see it!! Yurt start whining about how my response ruined the thread!!! Without other men covering for them ,sexual predators and sexual harassers cannot operate freely!
 
Another claim that women enjoy rape.thats two nights in a row with that gem. Quick, everyone pretend you didn't see it!! Yurt start whining about how my response ruined the thread!!! Without other men covering for them ,sexual predators and sexual harassers cannot operate freely!


But then you are the one who made the decision to bring it up. :)
You seem to be of the mindset that women can't be "sexual predators and sexual harassers"; but then, most femnazi's want equal but seperate. :D
 
Compared to you? Anytime monkey.

There is a war zone j-mac. Maybe you coult take your trash talk down there?

I understand that you are confused, I was just trying to thankyou for proving that mostly adults earn minimum wage.
Sorry I didn't make it simple enough for you to understand the first time.

LMAO, so when you turned 27 you were no longer your parrent's child?

What you just can't seem to take into your thick skull is that your words are not proof to me. You can repeat yourself until your tonuge falls out.
Until you publish a chart or some other real evidence, you have proven nothing.
Since you clearly cannot come up with a SINGLE proof, you have lost.

So you can find no evidence that the benefit does not outweigh the cost from previous times the minimum wage has been raised?
I thought that would be the case.
Thankyou, you are dismissed.
Run along and play now.

Umm, you will just have to take my word for it. In this thread, that is the standard of proof. If you don't believe me, read the thread. I have repeatedly asked for cites form everyone and received NONE so far, so fuck off, yurt.

You seriously don't know the difference between slapping a poster in one comment and starting an entire thread denigating a poster?

Can you prove it would be a net negative? Large corps are litterally sitting on billions in cash. IMHO, large corps likely hire most minimum wage workers (Wallmart, etc.)
Is it possible that the corps getting off some of that money to those who spend every penny could help the economy more that hurt it?

I had to thank this post, being nordic and all, but really Grind, You are already here! Mass is as close to socialism as any of the states get, and we are openminded about it too. (King, Weld, Celucci, Smith, Romney, just in recent years alone). Plus we all voted for Hillary. Just think how that would have worked out if all the prole states hadn't dropped the ball.
Four more years of the Clintons in the white house.

You just need to try some of the fine weed I smoke, and be gratefull for what you have. It doesn't get any better than this.

This is one of the few important threads on this forum. I have urged you to stay on topic at least three previous times. If you cannot comment on the thread toppic, I will shortly be forced to place you on ignore status, at least for the duration of this thread.

Thanks for trolling at JPP today. Would you like fries with that?

:D
 
I'm not changing anything, j-mac.

Not being confrontational right now, but I never thought you would.

Look - let's you and I push the re-set button.

Ok, that would be fine.

Despite allowing your buttons to get pushed here, you appear perfectly capable of civil discourse and respect.

Absolutely, I was a frequent poster at Whistle Stopper.com before it collapsed, and currently at Debate Politics.com combined for about the past 9 years. Now, no doubt there are others around that were there too and can tell you that half the shit that goes down here would be 'permaban' stuff. But, I understand that this section is a little more raucous. I also know about APP, but can't post in there, is there a post count or something to get in?

But as a conservative, you can fully expect to meet with friction from the liberals here.

No doubt, but friction I can handle, dishonesty in that friction is another thing. Outright baiting is also another thing...What good does that do the discussion? Take this thread for example, there are some 665 postings, and about 1/3 of them are actual debate back and forth, give or take, the rest are snide, snarky, vulgar bickering. What good does that do any debate? In the end it is a huge waste of time.

Try to take the friction - and some of the heat - in stride.

Oh, I do. Like I say good natured, even not so good natured, or heated back and forth is fine in politics, no problem. But look, you had one post in here attack someones mother, and another attack someones wife, with some pretty vile stuff...One was a conservative, the other was a liberal...What good did it do? Shit, y'all wanna do that crap, use the PM.....

If you butt heads with someone particularly unpleasant, to the point that they're inhibiting you from enjoying the place, use your 'ignore' button.

Yeah, I am not one to use 'ignore' function too much. I think everyone should have a voice that wants one, and I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt that whatever nastiness will pass, and the discussion can move on...

Seriously, this is the best forum I have participated on yet. There is no heavy-handed moderation, which means one of the trade-offs is unbridled exchanges that can get pretty hostile at times. Perspective is everything. Now, let's rumble!

Ok, I understand, you're a long time member. I'll give it a fair chance, and as you see, I can absolutely sling shit with the best of them, but I'll tell ya, I know this is the internet, but as most people do, I try to formulate my responses as though we are standing in a group of people talking. Now, I've done that as well, and it can get heated too, but a far different situation when the person your are about to insult may have had enough of the jabs, and punches you in the face...I've seen it happen. It put a pretty big damper on the party.

So, in conclusion, reset? I am all for it, let's start over. But if it is just going to be something that is meant to give a one way ticket for verbal abuse for no reason without reprise? That ain't going to happen...Agreed?
 
Don't bother with APP... let me explain how the rules work in there... If you are conservative, anything you say that can be construed or distorted into an insult of any kind, is deleted and you are warned and reprimanded. But Liberals can pretty much say anything, call you any name, or throw out whatever insults they please, and unless they clearly offend a personal family member (your sister's a whore) then it is overlooked as unintentional. You have to stay on topic, if you wander off topic, you can be warned and reprimanded, or banned. However, Liberals can meander about as they always do, derail threads, talk about all kinds of off-topic stuff in your threads, and that's fine... they are Liberals, it's what they do.

So, if you enjoy double standards, and the challenge of conforming to rigid board rules while those you debate with don't have to follow same rules, then you will LOVE the APP board. Personally, I try to avoid it at all costs these days.
 
Don't bother with APP... let me explain how the rules work in there... If you are conservative, anything you say that can be construed or distorted into an insult of any kind, is deleted and you are warned and reprimanded. But Liberals can pretty much say anything, call you any name, or throw out whatever insults they please, and unless they clearly offend a personal family member (your sister's a whore) then it is overlooked as unintentional. You have to stay on topic, if you wander off topic, you can be warned and reprimanded, or banned. However, Liberals can meander about as they always do, derail threads, talk about all kinds of off-topic stuff in your threads, and that's fine... they are Liberals, it's what they do.

So, if you enjoy double standards, and the challenge of conforming to rigid board rules while those you debate with don't have to follow same rules, then you will LOVE the APP board. Personally, I try to avoid it at all costs these days.


Oh..well, then I guess there is no place on the web that doesn't have that same double standard to some degree or another....Probably because there are more liberals that start, and mod these boards than conservatives.

In general, I don't mind the back and forth, I was just making a commentary on what I think happens when that gets out of hand. The debate is lost for some imaginary point scoring. It reminds me of the late '70s, early '80s and 'playing the dozens'...Remember that? A group of people would gather around, and start off with the insults with the crowd on each side giving 'oooohs, and ahaaaa's' until some instigator would say something like 'you goin' to take that'? And a fight would break out. It was real big when I was in junior high. I'd like to think we are past that as adults.

So from this point, when it gets beyond a line, I will try to just stop posting, or feeding the troll. Now that doesn't mean that I am just some pussy, and can't dish it out, nor does it mean that I won't get carried away myself, I am only human after all. But it does mean that I guess I'll have to monitor myself more closely...That's all.
 
While reading the "exchanges" on this thread, it came to me that maybe, just maybe, certain people are trying to make it look like those earning the minimum wage are in the majority of workers.

So; I did a search and came upon this:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t03.htm

The minimum wage is yet another farcical creation by leftists to further their collectivist aims. Minimum wage laws are pressed by unions because when the minimum wage increases, unions use it as a baseline to extort higher wages for themselves.

Minimum wage laws ALWAYS increase unemployment in low skilled workers (students, blacks, women, Latinos). Ironically, these are the same groups left wingers claim to be champions for.

Leftist policies ALWAYS create the opposite of what they purport to do.
 
Don't bother with APP... let me explain how the rules work in there... If you are conservative, anything you say that can be construed or distorted into an insult of any kind, is deleted and you are warned and reprimanded. But Liberals can pretty much say anything, call you any name, or throw out whatever insults they please, and unless they clearly offend a personal family member (your sister's a whore) then it is overlooked as unintentional. You have to stay on topic, if you wander off topic, you can be warned and reprimanded, or banned. However, Liberals can meander about as they always do, derail threads, talk about all kinds of off-topic stuff in your threads, and that's fine... they are Liberals, it's what they do.

So, if you enjoy double standards, and the challenge of conforming to rigid board rules while those you debate with don't have to follow same rules, then you will LOVE the APP board. Personally, I try to avoid it at all costs these days.

:palm: Why must you always lie Liar?

Let's see, liberal?;

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Again with the chart mis-interpretation <edited>. Does being a denier ever get old? What is the TREND that the chart represents, Tinfoil?
Last edited by Damocles; 06-23-2012 at 04:54 PM. Reason: follow the rules rune


Con;

Money, in the context of political contributions, is most certainly political expression. Only a moron would say otherwise.

Don't give a shit about the APP rules. This thread should have been posted elsewhere to begin with.

I can prove that money is expression, based upon all of the cases the SCOTUS has addressed so far on the matter. In each case, someone was attempting to promote a lifestyle, political stance, or choice, and campaign contributions meet those same criteria. But I shouldn't even have to go this far. You are a fucking moron.

Okay, then ignore the last sentence of what I posted. There is your proof. Or are you going to deny the SCOTUS decisions don't exist so that you can try and waste my time. Quit being a child.


Then there is this, and I dislike pointing this out especially having made a thread about how fairminded the mods of JPP are (particularly Gind [(not to disparage the other mods abilities)]), however the following post very clearly illustrates the slightly conservative bias of the site mods, in direct contradiction to the total bullshit you just spouted.;

How many times is high tower lowdown dot org, going to be plugged here? This is the second posting of the OPINION piece, from a from a biased liberal moron, spewing mindless liberal moron propaganda, as if it were some kind of credible news commentary.

You people are amazing... and on the APP Board at that!​

Last edited by King of Owls; 06-20-2012 at 09:42 PM. Reason: nvm, made an error, everything put back into place

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?41700-Defend-Citizens-United&p=1021500#post1021500
 
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